What's up with all the conservatives on here?

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Slot of women feel same as I do, what’s your excuse now?

Since the definition of feminism is the belief that women deserve equal rights, when you say that you aren’t a feminist, you are actually saying that you don’t believe women deserve equal rights.

My body my choice. I don’t want a kid I should be able to get a abortion aka not be responsible for it. Takes too to make a baby, why are you in favor of only giving the woman an out? She shouldn’t have to have a baby that she doesn’t want. Why the f**k should the man then! Or do you think women are incapable of being responsible?
This policy treats women as weak, naive victims.

If I got a woman pregnant she can just be like nope didn’t want this it was a mistake got an abortion don’t have to deal with it
But if I say same she say nope you have to deal with and the government going lock you up, women get choices men don’t deal with it.
Maybe I should support banning abortions, tell women they don’t get w choice deal with it.

The man goes to prison or works slave labors in my cause I don’t work I’d go to prison, be bears raped, stabbed. Yep pregnancy s so horrible compared

Look if you want equal then you’d give both genders an equal out of the responsibility of their mistake not just one.

Why does the woman get to avoid the consequences of her mistake?
Or are you a feminist who says all sex is rape cause that’s what it sounds like you’re saying.
Both people choose to have sex she got pregnant. Either both have an out option or neither do, she Carrie the baby no choice and he has to pay for it no choice.

Nazis didn’t define them as evil genocidal dictators either,
Assault weapon is a made up definition with no base in reality.
So I don’t care thwt feminist got enough money and connections to get definition to be whatever they want, they are nit for equality they are just for empowering women, they don’t care about a single male issue. They see men as the enemy who has everything going for the, the The patriarcchy thwt ever last single man is apart of I’m a secrete millionaire who’s controlling the world. I just pretend to be a worthless sub human to keep my cover,

This is last I’m going to reply to you if you keep pushing this convert or die, feminist =women nonsenses, you do not have to be a feminist to support equality, if you’re a woman you don’t have to be a feminist. Maybe that’s why feminist love Muslims even though they are the worse for mistreating women, cause both groups have a convert or die stance. I will never be a man hating feminist, wage gape is lie, pink tax is a lie, a man spreading his legs or having the ac on isn’t a misogynistic woman hater. Men not wanting to have kids aren’t women abusers.

If you can’t accwpt not everyone is going be a f*****g feminist and want to hate them for it then we have nothing else to say to each other. Only around 30% of women consider themselves a feminist ,you’re a minority deal with it. Hating others for not being a feminist will never bring equality though

You are taking what I’ve said way of proportion. I don’t hate anyone.

Comparing feminists to Nazis is absurd. Few feminists are radical. Most of us are peacefully pushing for positive changes.

More women would be feminists if they understood what the word means. Knowledge is a good thing.

Almost as absurd as saying if you are not a feminist you don't believe women deserve equal rights.

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, feminism is “the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes.”

People who aren’t feminists either have a misconception about what the word means (as is the case here) or they are bigots.

Without feminism, women wouldn’t have the right to vote as well as various laws to protect them from abuse.

Comparing such a positive movement to Nazism is extremely distasteful.

That's an overgeneralization. For example, the ACLU generally considered to be a "liberal" organization.


Property regulations are not necessarily "liberal" or "leftist" in motive or in terms of who supports them. Zoning laws, for example, often have an essentially conservative motive, e.g. to preserve the "character" of a neighborhood for the purpose of maintaining property values. Often the goal is to maintain a low population density, e.g. by restricting the number of families that a house can be build for. That's definitely not a "liberal" impulse.


So you think there shouldn't be any environmental regulation???


Well it's good we now have LED lights.


Agreed that there should be more government accountability. How do you propose making government more accountable?


I don't favor outlawing home schooling. I do think there need to be (as I believe there already are) some standards to ensure that home-schooled children are not being shortchanged in terms of their education.


Two other reasons I can think of offhand:

1) Teachers fearing economic displacement.

2) SOME of the leading home-school proponents happen also to be Christian Reconstructionists whose ultimate longterm aim is to impose theocracy a.k.a. "Theonomy."


They are socially "liberal" but, indeed, otherwise old-fashioned mega-capitalists with all the nasty implications thereof.


Indeed the government should not regulate speech. This doesn't mean "hate speech" should be SOCIALLY acceptable, however.


What are some examples of ideas you have expressed that you have often been told were wrong and shameful?

Anyhow, freedom of speech means that you have the right to express your ideas, but other people have the right to express their ideas too, possibly by disagreeing or disapproving of yours.


Agreed.

Also according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary feminism is "organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests"

I'm more of an egalitarian but that makes me a bigot in your eyes , it's cool though , I've been called much worse.

That’s the second definition. I was stating the first.

If you believe that both genders deserve equal rights, you’re technically a feminist whether you want to be one or not.

Yeah, we all know how bad “organized activity” on behalf of women can be. Bringing awareness to issues like sexual assault, domestic violence, or sexual harassment certainly can’t be a good thing.

Well, they SHOULD be, if the word "conservative" is to be taken at its literal meaning, they should favor conservation. In reality, however, too many conservatives have simply opposed all environmental regulation rather than, say, proposing less intrusive forms of regulation.

Here is an article by a conservative environmentalist -- note that the author admits that "Much of the conservative movement has erred on the side of emphasizing economic growth while ignoring the extent of our environmental problems. To protect the economy, we conservatives have fought the environmental movement step by step, and we have lost step by step. I can tell you why. It is because environmentalists have had the moral high ground, even though they have not provided the most beneficial solutions."


Where do you get your info that Walmart donates highly to liberal causes? See Walmart PAC, Walton Family Political Contributions Favor Conservatives: Report.

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I don't see how your sarcastic Strawman fallacies are helping you prove your point

I am not a feminist - I don't need a dictionary to tell me this ( definitions differ )

The OEM states that feminism is

The advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

Opposing regulation doesn’t mean they want to pollute the environment it just means they actually read the laws.
Do you spend the time to read all way through lawsa? I do and they mostly horrible, you can’t trust titles or summaries . Don’t judge a book by its cover.

They don’t to completely kill off all businesses like left does. That’s why they oppose certain regulations as it’ll kill businesses and kill the economy. And when people are homies and starving to death being told it’s for the best of the earth won’t help them.

Walmart donates heavy to mothers demand action, new town for gun safter, Bloomberg, etc republicans hate Walmart and a lot of them won’t step foot in one.


What it’s less-known for, however, its unabashed support for the liberal agenda. 2ndVote’s research shows that Walmart supports left-wing causes on life, the Second Amendment, marriage, religious liberty, education, immigration, and the environment.

For just a few examples: Walmart supports the Environmental Defense Fund, which backs cap-and-trade. Walmart refuses to sell firearms or ammunition to customers under the age of 21, contributes to and partners with a host of groups which oppose your values on marriage and religious liberty, and funds the pro-abortion YWCA. Its donations to the liberal Center for American Progress and the National Urban League back both Common Core and removing your Second Amendment rights. Finally, Walmart is on the Corporate Board of Advisers for UnidosUS, the sanctuary city advocates formerly known as La Raza.

Walmart also recently partnered with several other liberal corporations for a Get-Out-The-Vote effort in the 2018 midterm elections. We covered this sleight-of-hand effort to push left-wing values on an unsuspecting nation.

I don’t like either side, they both are horrible but pretrwying one as good and our savior and other as the devil and evil is just wrong. Republicans and conservatives aren’t evil villains

Consensual sex takes two willing participants. The idea that if a man and a woman have sex and the woman gets pregnant, it's somehow solely the man's fault and responsibility is frankly ridicurious, and denies the woman her share of personal responsibility for the situation, as if it just happened to her rather than her being an active participant in the act. Not sure if that's what you're getting at, but anyway.

Men already have less choice than the woman in that if the woman decides she wants an abortion and the man wants to be a father, tough luck. And if the woman wants to have the child and the man doesn't, he's put on the hook financially for 18 years and if he doesn't pay then he gets in trouble with the law. The man shouldn't be subject to all the negatives of a decision to have sex that was mutually made. I wouldn't suggest that men have the right to force a woman to abort or carry to term, but it's not fair to expect men to always have it rough if they should disagree with the decision of the mother. It's not fair for women to hold all the cards.

So a "financial abortion" would work similarly to a real abortion in that the man relinquishes parental rights permanently with no prospect of getting them back, he has no financial obligations to the mother or child and his name wouldn't appear on the birth certificate. He'd have to make it clear that he would be relinquishing parental rights to the prospective mother with enough time for her to get an abortion should she choose to do so knowing that he isn't going to provide.