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11 Nov 2020, 3:36 pm

I guess ignoring the fact that the GOP considers its' founding principle to be the right to possess deadly force must be nice.

..."Out in the streets, they call it murder."


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11 Nov 2020, 3:49 pm

Just so we are clear, only one group is responsible for making death threats against innocent people
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/phil ... ?r=US&IR=T
https://www.cbs46.com/news/atlanta-resi ... 1b57e.html

This is widespread and not restricted to one place, The claims by certain unamed posters that the left are the only ones responsible for violence is starting sound like propoganda.



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11 Nov 2020, 4:12 pm

Brictoria is straight up schilling for a police state that wants to change our flag. From outside the country no less, the only way to be so calloused is when you have no skin in the game.

People are legitimately acting like defacement of the stars & stripes is their patriotic duty toward an occupying force known for racist violence, racketeering (just Google civil asset forfeiture), KKK membership etc.

Maybe because I respect our *actual* flag, my liberal ass is more conservative than those who would call it insufficient for their banana republic.


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11 Nov 2020, 4:30 pm

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(...) a police state that wants to change our flag.

That's interesting, I didn't hear about it before. Can you post a link?


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11 Nov 2020, 4:36 pm

I just found out that 20 to 30 percent of the membership is threatening to leave our church because our pastor prayed for G^D's blessings on "President-Elect Biden".  That is all there is to it; he spoke three simple words and now around 50 people have declared they will never come back to church.  Some of those people have been my friends for over a decade.  Others have at least been friendly.  I cannot understand why some people would be driven to leave a church over an expression of goodwill toward the apparent winner of an election.  I thought we were all Christians.  Apparently, I was mistaken.



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11 Nov 2020, 4:38 pm

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(...) a police state that wants to change our flag.

That's interesting, I didn't hear about it before. Can you post a link?


It's the "thin blue line" hysteria, calling for police to be respected above all else.
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11 Nov 2020, 4:40 pm

:lol: Maybe we should call it narc derangement syndrome.


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11 Nov 2020, 7:53 pm

Fnord wrote:
I just found out that 20 to 30 percent of the membership is threatening to leave our church because our pastor prayed for G^D's blessings on "President-Elect Biden".  That is all there is to it; he spoke three simple words and now around 50 people have declared they will never come back to church.  Some of those people have been my friends for over a decade.  Others have at least been friendly.  I cannot understand why some people would be driven to leave a church over an expression of goodwill toward the apparent winner of an election.  I thought we were all Christians.  Apparently, I was mistaken.


Is this the "Biden is pro-abortion" thing?



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11 Nov 2020, 10:17 pm

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Oh okay, makes sense. I guess I just thought that sabotaging votes, would only make things worse, because then you got to redo them over again, and that causes delays, etc. So it's not really solving the problem, but just delaying an inevitable conclusion? The envitable conclusion being one of them is getting in, and it can't be stopped, no matter how much you delay? When you say without healthcare, do you mean the current American healthcare system, or does Trump want to do away with that as well?

the GOP long has maintained health care is NOT for the lumpenproles, it is just a privilege of wealth, for a century now they have opposed every attempt to extend affordable health care to the masses. they used trumpy to kill PPACA and if they had succeeded then EMTALA [Emergency Medical Treatment And Labor Act] would have been next in their crosshairs, that is the law that says public ERs cannot turn away the indigent. in my dad's day it was very common for pofolk to be given the bum's rush out of ERs and then dying in the street. GOP wants us back in those days.



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11 Nov 2020, 10:20 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Just so we are clear, only one group is responsible for making death threats against innocent people
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/phil ... ?r=US&IR=T
https://www.cbs46.com/news/atlanta-resi ... 1b57e.html

This is widespread and not restricted to one place, The claims by certain unamed posters that the left are the only ones responsible for violence is starting sound like propoganda.


I have never seen anyone suggest only the left are responsible for violence?
There are dickheads on both sides, right? :scratch:



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11 Nov 2020, 10:24 pm

Well why does everything seem to be right or left on this issue. Can't people adapt more than two idealogies, and have their own thoughts? I just never understood why so many Americans choose only two idealogies.

It's like telling a society of people, you can either like Japanese food or you can like Mexican food, but you're not allowed to choose anything else... Why not choose what you like, rather than flocking to only two sides?



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11 Nov 2020, 10:25 pm

Fnord wrote:
I just found out that 20 to 30 percent of the membership is threatening to leave our church because our pastor prayed for G^D's blessings on "President-Elect Biden".  That is all there is to it; he spoke three simple words and now around 50 people have declared they will never come back to church.  Some of those people have been my friends for over a decade.  Others have at least been friendly.  I cannot understand why some people would be driven to leave a church over an expression of goodwill toward the apparent winner of an election.  I thought we were all Christians.  Apparently, I was mistaken.


Firstly, if they are only *threatening* to leave, that isn't the same as leaving, proper.
But if they do, Mephistopheles always has a nice warm spot for them, by the fire.
And it is into the kooler months over there, after all. 8)



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11 Nov 2020, 10:31 pm

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Well why does everything seem to be right or left on this issue. Can't people adapt more than two idealogies, and have their own thoughts?

:lmao:

Apparently not. Well, not for most.
I have never seen the likes before.
The partisanship is mind-boggling.
Groupthink par excellence. 8O

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I just never understood why so many Americans choose only two idealogies.


It is a mystery to me too.

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It's like telling a society of people, you can either like Japanese food or you can like Mexican food, but you're not allowed to choose anything else... Why not choose what you like, rather than flocking to only two sides?


Why are you asking me?
I'm an Australian. 8)



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11 Nov 2020, 10:35 pm

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... Why do so many people have to be "bad sports" about this and just conduct an honest election and not be a sore loser. May be the best man win and just all be honest and shake hands in the end?
Because Trump, that's why.


What does that say about the 71 million people who voted for him. EEP! 8O



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11 Nov 2020, 10:46 pm

ironpony wrote:
Well why does everything seem to be right or left on this issue. Can't people adapt more than two ideologies, and have their own thoughts? I just never understood why so many Americans choose only two ideologies. It's like telling a society of people, you can either like Japanese food or you can like Mexican food, but you're not allowed to choose anything else... Why not choose what you like, rather than flocking to only two sides?

our system is not a la carte, we must choose one party or the other.



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11 Nov 2020, 10:57 pm

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ironpony wrote:
Well why does everything seem to be right or left on this issue. Can't people adapt more than two ideologies, and have their own thoughts? I just never understood why so many Americans choose only two ideologies. It's like telling a society of people, you can either like Japanese food or you can like Mexican food, but you're not allowed to choose anything else... Why not choose what you like, rather than flocking to only two sides?

our system is not a la carte, we must choose one party or the other.


You could have voted for that singer guy, right? :scratch: