White privilege isn't real - Jordan Peterson

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I didn't feel any 'white privilege' when I was gang-stalked for half my life.

BTW, I was harassed by the white community and felt safe in a non-white society.

I just feel like this "white privilege" stuff tends to stifle discussion.

It's used as a device to tell a person that "you don't know how it feels" to be (black, Hispanic, any race) in an absolute sense.

There happen to be many commonalities in oppression. Being black in the Jim Crow areas of the South was rather like being Jewish in Nazi Germany (no, they didn't have identical experiences----but they had common experiences).

"Discrimination' in choosing a partner is a valid part of life.

That's true, perhaps choosing a partner was not a good example then. So when people talk about white privilege, they are mostly talking about career and employment opportunities then, not so much social or relationship?

I believe it's mostly about employment opportunities and housing opportunities.

That's one major way how people who are vocal about those things massively sabotage their own cause (I mean, assuming they ever actually cared about it). Because that stuff just doesn't matter. Meanwhile, things that actually matter (which aren't as visible as movies, like access to education, or the issue of selective law enforcement), just keep going on unnoticed.

I guess it's no wonder that there are lots of people out there who are hostile toward the cause of better treatment for minorities in society, when they're bombarded with messages (from the alleged "left" itself) that the problem is as petty as "who gets to portray a character in a movie". There are always actual racist jerks, but I don't think that's the case of the majority of people who end up in that hostile camp.

Oh okay. What is it about non-white people not being able to get access to education, are they actually turned down based on race? I work in a school for example, and there are a lot of non-white kids, unless that's just not how it is in a lot of areas?

From what I've seen about it, this seems to be the main issue in the US at this point in time:

"Gerrymandered school districts perpetuate segregation by keeping low-income students out"

Which, within that type of funding framework, ends up being tied to housing opportunities.

But it says low income students. I thought this was about race being kept out, not about low income?

Yes, that issue is not exclusive to black people (as isn't any of the other issues involved, to varying degrees), but it seems like there's a long and still ongoing historical pattern of effectively cornering black people into segregated (and ultimately bad) neighborhoods. The way how access to credit works seems to be one of the ways how that happens.

This happens, seemingly, more in Philadelphia and Boston than New York.

Though there’s gentrification in New York. And still some segregated neighborhoods. Many are not segregated in Queens, though.

Oh okay, how are black people cornerned into them?

@Kraftiekortie: I hope you don't mind if I leave this one for you (or maybe other Americans here?) to answer...

I don't really know the details, and that's one of the ways how racism and race relations work very differently between Brazil and the US. But I've heard about it enough times and from credible-enough sources to believe that it's a shockingly consistent pattern in the US.

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Oh okay, I'm just not sure how it happens, and was wondering, that's all. I thought white people also live in bad neighborhoods too though, as well as other races, so I thought it evened out, but maybe it doesn't?

In the US, no, I don't think it does.