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20 Aug 2008, 5:19 pm

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It is exactly why few Aspies "get" religion. Indeed, this is so. :D



or, you know, it's simply because most of us have gone beyond the need of a religion.


Please, tell us what this supposed "need" is? I don't feel a "need", I just accept what I view as correct. Are you so blind as to think that people would actually believe something if they thought it was false?


heroin addicts believe they're really happy and that it increases creativity. doesn't mean it's true.

which goes back to: you're delusional.



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20 Aug 2008, 7:31 pm

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God is too big to see with the naked eye or any mechanical extension of the naked eye. He is also too small to see with any microscope. God transcends this kind of Aspie-literal experience. You can't see God for the same reason you can't see a galaxy.



excuses excuses.


no results = no god. that's the way they did it in the bible and i see no reason for it to be different today.


As I said, Aspie-literal. :roll:



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20 Aug 2008, 8:13 pm

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Atheism deifies science

not true

atheism is simply a rejection of religion regardless of motive. although many of us do use science as a reason for our disbelief in a higher power, this is not so for all atheists. you're simply making a generalization. for me, science is one of the main reasons i don't believe in a higher power but it is not the sole reason.



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20 Aug 2008, 8:21 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Please, tell us what this supposed "need" is? I don't feel a "need", I just accept what I view as correct. Are you so blind as to think that people would actually believe something if they thought it was false?

well, I wouldn't put it as delusional, but yes, I believe the need may play a big role here. It may sound incredible to some I suppose, but some people actually choose to believe in something because it suits better to their psychological or emotional needs.


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20 Aug 2008, 8:59 pm

beef_bourito wrote:
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Atheism deifies science

not true

atheism is simply a rejection of religion regardless of motive. although many of us do use science as a reason for our disbelief in a higher power, this is not so for all atheists. you're simply making a generalization. for me, science is one of the main reasons i don't believe in a higher power but it is not the sole reason.



it's not so much a reason for me as it is just a method of displaying the obvious.

think...elephant in the room...but backwards.



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21 Aug 2008, 7:21 am

skafather84 wrote:
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It is exactly why few Aspies "get" religion. Indeed, this is so. :D



or, you know, it's simply because most of us have gone beyond the need of a religion.


Ah, why didn't you just come out and say you were a supremacist in the first place? That way, you can simply be dismissed.



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21 Aug 2008, 7:43 am

skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
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It is exactly why few Aspies "get" religion. Indeed, this is so. :D



or, you know, it's simply because most of us have gone beyond the need of a religion.


Please, tell us what this supposed "need" is? I don't feel a "need", I just accept what I view as correct. Are you so blind as to think that people would actually believe something if they thought it was false?


heroin addicts believe they're really happy and that it increases creativity. doesn't mean it's true.

which goes back to: you're delusional.


So you claim.



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21 Aug 2008, 5:42 pm

slowmutant wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
It is exactly why few Aspies "get" religion. Indeed, this is so. :D



or, you know, it's simply because most of us have gone beyond the need of a religion.


Please, tell us what this supposed "need" is? I don't feel a "need", I just accept what I view as correct. Are you so blind as to think that people would actually believe something if they thought it was false?


heroin addicts believe they're really happy and that it increases creativity. doesn't mean it's true.

which goes back to: you're delusional.


So you claim.

I think it's far more than a claim, unless you can provide a better reason why you people can believe the things you do with absolutely no evidence, common sense or one thing that makes these beliefs appear realistic at all.



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21 Aug 2008, 5:45 pm

I don't ansewr to you, z0rp.



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23 Aug 2008, 12:24 pm

slowmutant wrote:
I don't ansewr to you, z0rp.

Well then I can assume you think I'm correct since you haven't said anything against my post. :P



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23 Aug 2008, 2:43 pm

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I think it's far more than a claim, unless you can provide a better reason why you people can believe the things you do with absolutely no evidence, common sense or one thing that makes these beliefs appear realistic at all.

well, out of the three reasons you mentionted, I could say that the second one would be more likely the case and perhaps even the third one. 'Common sense' is so relative, so I don't think that does so much against their case.


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23 Aug 2008, 3:19 pm

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27 Aug 2008, 5:15 pm

I went to a religiously-oriented school (I don't really know exactly what an American "Catholic school" is, but that's what you might call it, although it wasn't Catholic). However, I cannot remember ever having beliefs in God. As a child I thought that believing in God was something you had to do, and I said I did. But I never really believed it, and when I was around 10 I knew I was an atheist.

Of course, something like God is, I think, essentially unprovable. You can say that 'God is not like anything in this world' and all that. But I don't see any reason why that's a reason for him to exist. So I am agnostic but for all intents and purposes, an athiest. If there is a kind and benevolent God then I would hope he would understand my beliefs. If he is not like that then we're all damned, except the select few who chose to follow the right religion. :) .

To put in short: I am an agnostic, who lives in the assumption that God does not exist.



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30 Aug 2008, 1:21 pm

There's a name for what I believe, but I forgot it. :oops:

Anyways, it's the belief that god planted the seeds of evolution, and there are some things he influences, but we evolved free of his influence.


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30 Aug 2008, 1:26 pm

Panspermiatism? The belief of Francis Crick about aliens seeding the universe.

Theistic Evolutionism? Ask Orwell.



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31 Aug 2008, 9:08 pm

Unitarian Universalism. We believe that all minorities (gays, transexuals, etc.) deserve respect and everyone is equal no matter what you are. We also respect all religions.