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04 Jun 2012, 4:37 am

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I still can't get over how many people dislike hiphop. You know there is such a thing as political hiphop? Or the type that deals with social issues? Hell, when hiphop started out, that was one of the main points of it, to highlight the classism and institutionalised racism.


The sound just isn't appealing to me.


Hmm, I'm hardly a hip hop expert, but have you listened to any Gil Scott-Heron? He was a poet and proto-rapper and even I could hear his total brilliance. It's kind of fun to see his influence on political music in rap, reggae and punk.


Too much jazz influence for me ... but I used to be nuts for Toots and the Maytals, and some of the other earlier stuff in that general milieu


I keep on forgetting that GSH isn't for everyone. I was 12 and I already disliked Ronald Reagan because of his anti-environmentalism when I first heard "B-Movie" and it was like being struck by lightning. In a good way. "B Movie," Linton Kwesi Johnson's "Di Eagle An Di Bear" (can't believe there's no YouTube of that) and later Public Enemy were big parts of my early days.



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04 Jun 2012, 11:53 am

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It would be hard for me to dislike black culture growing up Irish in America me and my family where treaded the same as African Americans.


Were Irish deliberately infected with syphilis as were black prisoners in Georgia back in the 1930s? How many Irish have been lynched, their bodies desacrated? How many Irish were bought and sold as slaves?

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All that happend to the Irish under British and English rule for about 800 years all accept being deliberately infected with syphilis.



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04 Jun 2012, 3:23 pm

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It would be hard for me to dislike black culture growing up Irish in America me and my family where treaded the same as African Americans.


Were Irish deliberately infected with syphilis as were black prisoners in Georgia back in the 1930s? How many Irish have been lynched, their bodies desacrated? How many Irish were bought and sold as slaves?

ruveyn


All that happend to the Irish under British and English rule for about 800 years all accept being deliberately infected with syphilis.
I concur as a person of primarily Irish ancestry.


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04 Jun 2012, 11:50 pm

I just got back from a late-night (well, 11:25 PM on a Monday night) run to the grocery store, and as I was leaving, a fairly short, skinny black with maybe a baseball cap and dreadlocks walked in; he looked like a thug (i.e., a criminal). Parked next to my car was a bright red sports with another black guy waiting in the passenger seat and some kind of rap music playing loudly: "N****r running hard / Sex, sex, sex, sex." For the record, I do not live in the ghetto or anywhere close to it. I wouldn't be surprised if the thuggish-looking type stuck up one of the cashiers after I had left. There is a thug subculture that is prevalent among young low-income urban black people in cities like St. Louis that glorifies a life of crime, misogyny, gangs, drugs, and violence. I'm certainly not anti-Dionysian nor anti-sex, but I obviously don't find such "values" acceptable. Now there's a more complicated sociological backdrop behind all this, but the fact remains that it exists.



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05 Jun 2012, 3:44 am

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I just got back from a late-night (well, 11:25 PM on a Monday night) run to the grocery store, and as I was leaving, a fairly short, skinny black with maybe a baseball cap and dreadlocks walked in; he looked like a thug (i.e., a criminal). Parked next to my car was a bright red sports with another black guy waiting in the passenger seat and some kind of rap music playing loudly: "N****r running hard / Sex, sex, sex, sex." For the record, I do not live in the ghetto or anywhere close to it. I wouldn't be surprised if the thuggish-looking type stuck up one of the cashiers after I had left. There is a thug subculture that is prevalent among young low-income urban black people in cities like St. Louis that glorifies a life of crime, misogyny, gangs, drugs, and violence. I'm certainly not anti-Dionysian nor anti-sex, but I obviously don't find such "values" acceptable. Now there's a more complicated sociological backdrop behind all this, but the fact remains that it exists.


Did the "holdup" occur or not? Did you bother to check?

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05 Jun 2012, 9:50 am

What part of "I wouldn't be surprised" do you not understand?



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05 Jun 2012, 9:57 am

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Did the "holdup" occur or not? Did you bother to check?

I never said there had been a hold-up; I only realized it was a possibility after I had already driven away. Hold-ups in suburban supermarkets aren't as uncommon as they may seem. From what I've heard, the robber hands the cashier a note saying they have a gun, and the cashier silently gives them money, and they press a silent alarm so as not to panic customers. I have not checked any police blotter.



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05 Jun 2012, 10:54 am

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Did the "holdup" occur or not? Did you bother to check?

I never said there had been a hold-up; I only realized it was a possibility after I had already driven away.


Holdups are a possibility wherever there is money to be stolen. And that can be in any neighborhood.

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07 Jun 2012, 10:00 pm

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It would be hard for me to dislike black culture growing up Irish in America me and my family where treaded the same as African Americans.


Were Irish deliberately infected with syphilis as were black prisoners in Georgia back in the 1930s? How many Irish have been lynched, their bodies desacrated? How many Irish were bought and sold as slaves?

ruveyn


All that happend to the Irish under British and English rule for about 800 years all accept being deliberately infected with syphilis.
I concur as a person of primarily Irish ancestry.


Don't let Tequila know you are Irish :lol:



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08 Jun 2012, 6:46 am

I actually quite like African mythology, culture, folklore and stuff like voodoo/hoodoo.

I've liked some rap before, like Dr.Dre and Snoop Dog, back in the early to mid 90s but haven't been able to stand hiphop since middleschool. Have no use for gangster and thug culture and I feel sorry for the black community that they have to have these things so heavily associated with their racial identity.



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08 Jun 2012, 8:15 am

I actually like Black culture, because they are a persecuted people like I am.



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08 Jun 2012, 10:56 am

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I actually like Black culture, because they are a persecuted people like I am.


Who persecutes them?


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08 Jun 2012, 1:26 pm

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I actually like Black culture, because they are a persecuted people like I am.


Who persecutes them?


No one anymore the civil war has been over with for a long time now :lol:



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08 Jun 2012, 2:37 pm

Joker wrote:
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It would be hard for me to dislike black culture growing up Irish in America me and my family where treaded the same as African Americans.


Were Irish deliberately infected with syphilis as were black prisoners in Georgia back in the 1930s? How many Irish have been lynched, their bodies desacrated? How many Irish were bought and sold as slaves?

ruveyn


All that happend to the Irish under British and English rule for about 800 years all accept being deliberately infected with syphilis.
I concur as a person of primarily Irish ancestry.


Don't let Tequila know you are Irish :lol:
eh I could care less if he knows or not. I am what I am it cannot be changed and an added twist I am also part Blackfoot Indian on my fathers side. Funny story about that my great grandmother was a chiefs daughter and bought by an Irishman with a crate of whiskey. Both sides of my blood line love the fire water. :twisted:


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08 Jun 2012, 10:08 pm

If people who happen to be black make or do something bad, I dislike it. If people who happen to be black make or do something good, I like it.


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09 Jun 2012, 11:13 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
Joker wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
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It would be hard for me to dislike black culture growing up Irish in America me and my family where treaded the same as African Americans.


Were Irish deliberately infected with syphilis as were black prisoners in Georgia back in the 1930s? How many Irish have been lynched, their bodies desacrated? How many Irish were bought and sold as slaves?

ruveyn


All that happend to the Irish under British and English rule for about 800 years all accept being deliberately infected with syphilis.
I concur as a person of primarily Irish ancestry.


Don't let Tequila know you are Irish :lol:
eh

I could care less if he knows or not. I am what I am it cannot be changed and an added twist I am also part Blackfoot Indian on my fathers side. Funny story about that my great grandmother was a chiefs daughter and bought by an Irishman with a crate of whiskey. Both sides of my blood line love the fire water. :twisted:


I am part Cherokee :D