Suppose we switched from Patriarchy to Matriarchy?

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Is our society Patriarchal or Matriarchal?
Competely patriarchal 20%  20%  [ 7 ]
More patriarchal than matriarchal 51%  51%  [ 18 ]
Neither patriarchal nor matriarchal 20%  20%  [ 7 ]
More matriarchal than patriarchal 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
Completely matriarchal 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 35
01 Nov 2012, 11:56 pm

DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
It has nothing to do with "Aspergers."


I also mentioned the fact that SARCASM is detected in voice by TONE, of which there isn't any because this forum exists in TEXT form.

Also, this: http://ezinearticles.com/?Aspergers-Syn ... id=1630591

"Aspergers kids often have challenges in the communications area. A major reason for an Aspie's difficulties with social functioning is the lack of understanding of subtle social cues and patterns of speech, such as SARCASM."


"Tone" most certainly exists in "text form."

You get to spend whole classes learning about "tone" in essays when you take upper-level literature courses.

But I forgive you for your meltdown. Happens to the best of us.

Good night.


No, tone, in the context of sound, does NOT exist in text form because text cannot be heard... Or am I just the only human on earth who doesn't somehow HEAR TEXT?




The more you take XFG's BS srsly, the more she will troll you with inane sarcasm. Try giving her the virtual silent treatment: Women hate it when you ignore them as they need constant attention. :wink:



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01 Nov 2012, 11:57 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
LKL wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
It has nothing to do with "Aspergers."


I also mentioned the fact that SARCASM is detected in voice by TONE, of which there isn't any because this forum exists in TEXT form.

Also, this: http://ezinearticles.com/?Aspergers-Syn ... id=1630591

"Aspergers kids often have challenges in the communications area. A major reason for an Aspie's difficulties with social functioning is the lack of understanding of subtle social cues and patterns of speech, such as SARCASM."


"Tone" most certainly exists in "text form."

You get to spend whole classes learning about "tone" in essays when you take upper-level literature courses.

But I forgive you for your meltdown. Happens to the best of us.

Good night.




Even if you're not a faux aspie, clearly you learned sarcasm and are using it relentlessly because you obviously know you're wrong but in order to maintain your false sense of superiority you refuse to back down and concede. I've seen this happen to quite a few people here on WP. You certainly have forfeited any respect I *might* have had for you and you are yet another reason women have no business in the military. Sleep tight, princess! 8)

Pot, Kettle, black.

I'm a copper pot, sweetums.
And LOL @ feminists ITT raging with narcissistic butthurt frustration!

way to miss the point.
Think about the fact that you aspie-checked xfiles fan for using sarcasm, and proceeded to load a post with sarcasm.
Also? 'raging,' 'narcissistic,' and 'butthurt frustration' are borderline ad-hominems and display a level of emotional reaction to this conversation that is totally out of line with the level of emotion that your opponents in the conversation are displaying. Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard for a while.



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02 Nov 2012, 12:00 am

DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
It has nothing to do with "Aspergers."


I also mentioned the fact that SARCASM is detected in voice by TONE, of which there isn't any because this forum exists in TEXT form.

Also, this: http://ezinearticles.com/?Aspergers-Syn ... id=1630591

"Aspergers kids often have challenges in the communications area. A major reason for an Aspie's difficulties with social functioning is the lack of understanding of subtle social cues and patterns of speech, such as SARCASM."


"Tone" most certainly exists in "text form."

You get to spend whole classes learning about "tone" in essays when you take upper-level literature courses.

But I forgive you for your meltdown. Happens to the best of us.

Good night.


No, tone, in the context of sound, does NOT exist in text form because text cannot be heard... Or am I just the only human on earth who doesn't somehow HEAR TEXT?

That would be a valid point if we were using 'tone' in the exclusive context of sound and not in the context of communicating to each other in writing. You specifically claimed that 'tone' was not perceptible in writing; it has been conclusively demonstrated that this is not the case. You respond by re-defining 'tone' in such a limited context that your definition would render many normal, day-to-day conversations about tone in writing incoherent. Your logic leaves something to be desired.



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02 Nov 2012, 12:01 am

AspieRogue wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
It has nothing to do with "Aspergers."


I also mentioned the fact that SARCASM is detected in voice by TONE, of which there isn't any because this forum exists in TEXT form.

Also, this: http://ezinearticles.com/?Aspergers-Syn ... id=1630591

"Aspergers kids often have challenges in the communications area. A major reason for an Aspie's difficulties with social functioning is the lack of understanding of subtle social cues and patterns of speech, such as SARCASM."


"Tone" most certainly exists in "text form."

You get to spend whole classes learning about "tone" in essays when you take upper-level literature courses.

But I forgive you for your meltdown. Happens to the best of us.

Good night.


No, tone, in the context of sound, does NOT exist in text form because text cannot be heard... Or am I just the only human on earth who doesn't somehow HEAR TEXT?

The more you take XFG's BS srsly, the more she will troll you with inane sarcasm. Try giving her the virtual silent treatment: Women hate it when you ignore them as they need constant attention. :wink:

:roll:
sez the guy who flipped out when I failed to respond to an insulting PM.



02 Nov 2012, 12:38 am

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Being competitive and analytical aren't traits unique to men



Correct. Women ARE competitive; and just as much as men(particularly with each other). Western culture continues to promulgate the silly idea that women are instinctively cooperative and thus socialism is somehow "less masculist". Being analytical really isn't the best way to run a business though. You need to have a certain level of assertiveness and even aggression though because that fuels the competitive drive to push down others to climb up(and by that I do NOT mean physical violence or being confrontational! You can be sly, manipulative, and even passive-aggressive and still run a successful business and I say those traits are probably more useful if you're in the white collar category). The 2 things you need to succeed in the free market: Competitiveness and good social skills.



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02 Nov 2012, 1:11 am

LKL wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
It has nothing to do with "Aspergers."


I also mentioned the fact that SARCASM is detected in voice by TONE, of which there isn't any because this forum exists in TEXT form.

Also, this: http://ezinearticles.com/?Aspergers-Syn ... id=1630591

"Aspergers kids often have challenges in the communications area. A major reason for an Aspie's difficulties with social functioning is the lack of understanding of subtle social cues and patterns of speech, such as SARCASM."


"Tone" most certainly exists in "text form."

You get to spend whole classes learning about "tone" in essays when you take upper-level literature courses.

But I forgive you for your meltdown. Happens to the best of us.

Good night.


No, tone, in the context of sound, does NOT exist in text form because text cannot be heard... Or am I just the only human on earth who doesn't somehow HEAR TEXT?

That would be a valid point if we were using 'tone' in the exclusive context of sound and not in the context of communicating to each other in writing. You specifically claimed that 'tone' was not perceptible in writing; it has been conclusively demonstrated that this is not the case. You respond by re-defining 'tone' in such a limited context that your definition would render many normal, day-to-day conversations about tone in writing incoherent. Your logic leaves something to be desired.


Clarification =/= redefinition. I WAS using "tone" in the context of sound. I'm the one who brought it up. If anyone's redefining anything, it's not me.

I tell someone's tone(as in, "don't take that tone with me, young man!") by the way in which they speak. I listen for changes in their voice; changes I cannot hear when reading text because text makes no sound.

I can tell when 1000knives is being sarcastic because I actually know him, so I know how he talks and how he acts. I compare that with something that he types to determine if he's being sarcastic or not based on whether or not it's something he would say with sincerity. I don't know XFG, and I see that's a damn good thing, too.

Tell me what is wrong with my logic. Being bad at detecting sarcasm is a common trait among aspies, and it's more difficult to detect thru text than thru sound, yet here are two idiots giving me s**t because I accidentally misinterpreted something that was typed by someone I don't know. Then when I ask for clarification, I get belittled even further... on a forum for aspies... who happen to be people who suck at social things... Are you friggin' serious right now?



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02 Nov 2012, 4:31 am

I'm not giving you s**t because you misinterpreted something; I do the same thing all the time. I'm giving you s**t because you're pretending that your point was something other than what it was (that 'tone' does not exist in text), and then doubling down on it when you've been called to the floor.

If you are making the claim that "tone" does not exist in text by saying that "tone" is strictly an audio characteristic, you are redefining tone as strictly an audio characteristc - not clarifying your prior statement.



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02 Nov 2012, 8:41 am

Men should fire their male bosses.



02 Nov 2012, 10:51 am

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blackelk wrote:
That's what I say. Feminists want all the freedom and rights that men do, but none of the responsibilities. A man in our society has greater expectations, more responsibility, and less sympathy.


Please send me the address of this magic land.

I'm tired of being expected to work 10-12 hours a day to support myself.

I want some of this free money and the privileged lifestyle all of the other Western women supposedly have.




Any ZIP code of the form: 972XX. You can also get a Stalking Protective Order against *any* man you dislike(thanks, State of Oregon) and he will be considered guilty of criminal stalking until proven innocent. If your first petition gets rejected there's a feminist community center to coach you as to what to say in order to manipulate a judge.



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02 Nov 2012, 11:34 am

My son's girlfriend beat him with an ice chest,hard enough to break the handle off the chest.I told him to file a domestic against her,he wouldn't do it.I think some men are embarrassed to go to the cops and say"my girl friend beat me up."but they should,they are victims just like the women that get battered.



02 Nov 2012, 12:02 pm

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My son's girlfriend beat him with an ice chest,hard enough to break the handle off the chest.I told him to file a domestic against her,he wouldn't do it.I think some men are embarrassed to go to the cops and say"my girl friend beat me up."but they should,they are victims just like the women that get battered.


He shoulda done something in retaliation. Even if he were sent to jail for it at least he'd have his pride. If you ever wonder why some men get rough with their gf's early in the relationship(not necessarily hitting or doing anything that leaves bruises or wounds), it's to discourage women from behaving this way. Gotta keep the pimp hand strong! 8)



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02 Nov 2012, 12:03 pm

^ ewwwwww



02 Nov 2012, 12:07 pm

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^ ewwwwww



You mean pimpin?



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02 Nov 2012, 12:10 pm

She's lucky I didn't do something,that was my baby she was pounding on.
AspieRougue,are you thinking of A Pimp Called Slickback? :lol:



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02 Nov 2012, 1:35 pm

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I have *already* rebutted your claims. You would know this if you actually knew anything about science.

No, darlin.' What you've done is spouted a lot of evo-psych BS just-so stories and claimed that they represent "science."


Please elaborate.

And what did that particular outburst have to do with a discussion on whether the word "superior" can be used in a scientific context?

LKL wrote:
Now, as requested after the last time I posted here:
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Dominant
the ecological definition being the one relevant to this discussion.
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Superior
Note that there is NO definition relevant to this discussion, because real biologists do not speak in terms of 'superiority' as being anything other than location.


I stand corrected. And I deeply apologize for offending the entire biological establishment by not accepting www.biology-online.org as the highest authority in this particular field. I promise I shall never again make the mistake of... hey, wait a minute :!:.

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Otherwise, *these* would be works consisting only of subjective value-judgements.
http://www.int-res.com/articles/meps200 ... 80p239.pdf
http://erc.endocrinology-journals.org/content/10/2/111.full.pdf


From the abstract in the first article:

"It has been hypothesized that larvae of benthic marine invertebrates may reduce their risk of post-settlement competition by avoiding superior competitors during settlement."

"Thus, our results suggest that invertebrate larvae do not avoid settling near established dominant competitors(i.e. colonial tunicates).
These results are in contrast to a previous study which had shown that larvae of competitively inferior species avoided settling near B. schlosseri."

So dominant and superior is used interchangeably in a peer-reviewed work by 3 biologists, all of them with a ph.d. or higher degree :scratch:. I guess they aren't "real" biologists then.



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02 Nov 2012, 2:49 pm

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So dominant and superior is used interchangeably in a peer-reviewed work by 3 biologists, all of them with a ph.d. or higher degree :scratch:. I guess they aren't "real" biologists then.


CV of Dr. Osman

CV of Dr. Bullard

CV of Dr. Whitlatch

Definitely not real biologists. Of course the "no real biologists" statement sounds a lot like a no true Scotsman fallacy