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25 Jan 2016, 1:00 am

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Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.


Yeah your right you and people like you have never passed any gun laws and gun bans . Nope California and New York and thousands of gun laws don't exist .

Bunch of crazy insane antigun people in your state right now making it so people can't carry guns anywhere and anyone can anonymously get anyone else's rights taken away. It's never enough,,not til all guns are banned and all gun owners dead and tossed in a mass grave. So f*****g tire of always being under attack. I just want to live what's left of my short life in peace. Wish you'd all just move tome England and leave us Americans alone.


I have never been responsible for any gun control laws. And I am a true blue American.


Supporting them or not standing up against them are just as guilty as doing them yourself

All it takes for evil to win is good men to do nothing.



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25 Jan 2016, 1:17 am

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Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.


Yeah your right you and people like you have never passed any gun laws and gun bans . Nope California and New York and thousands of gun laws don't exist .

Bunch of crazy insane antigun people in your state right now making it so people can't carry guns anywhere and anyone can anonymously get anyone else's rights taken away. It's never enough,,not til all guns are banned and all gun owners dead and tossed in a mass grave. So f*****g tire of always being under attack. I just want to live what's left of my short life in peace. Wish you'd all just move tome England and leave us Americans alone.


I have never been responsible for any gun control laws. And I am a true blue American.


Supporting them or not standing up against them are just as guilty as doing them yourself

All it takes for evil to win is good men to do nothing.


Your accusing me of such a thing is no different from the people who hold all gun owners responsible for the actions of lunatic school shooters.


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25 Jan 2016, 1:19 am

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Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.


Who says I'm forcing my views on anyone? I'm just stating how I'd choose having a car over a gun.

By supporting gun control and using that you don't see guns as important as a reason for it.


Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.


So you'd be okay with it if someone expressed an opinion that blacks should be sent back to Africa and gays put in concentration camps? After all, it wouldn't actually impact anyone if since it would just be an opinion.


Someone can rant and rave that sort of bigoted insanity all they want - this is a free country, after all. I just reserve the right to argue against them.


I just love it how you always have to lengths to remind us of the evils bigotry as if either you think we need to be told, or your reassuring yourself of your own beliefs...


You're the one who brought up those two scenarios, not I. And isn't bigotry evil?


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25 Jan 2016, 2:35 am

I know I am going to catch a lot of hate from saying this but I would rather have Hillary win the election.


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25 Jan 2016, 2:57 am

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I know I am going to catch a lot of hate from saying this but I would rather have Hillary win the election.


No hate from me, even though I'm a Bernie man. I'd certainly prefer her to any of the idiots on the Republican side.


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25 Jan 2016, 4:11 am

I'd choose Putin over Hillary

Heck,I'd sooner elect a squirrel before Hilary and the squirrel would do a way better job.



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25 Jan 2016, 8:29 am

Seriously is there any regulation at all on guns that some of you guys support? Give me an example of a regulation that you would support.



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25 Jan 2016, 8:56 am

Putin is an ex-KGB guy----and I believe he wants the Soviet system to be restored in some way.

Would you like to live under that form of Communism? Didn't think so!

How do you folks feel about Michael Bloomberg? He's a "lesser than two evils" type of candidate.



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25 Jan 2016, 9:03 am

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Putin is an ex-KGB guy----and I believe he wants the Soviet system to be restored in some way.

Would you like to live under that form of Communism? Didn't think so!

How do you folks feel about Michael Bloomberg? He's a "lesser than two evils" type of candidate.


Considering he started mayors against illegal guns, I can guess a few people here will be against him for that.



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25 Jan 2016, 9:17 am

I, myself, am not a great lover of Bloomberg.

But I think he would be much preferable to Trump.

Bernie Sanders has some nice, idealistic ideas--but they wouldn't work in the real world.



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25 Jan 2016, 9:24 am

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I, myself, am not a great lover of Bloomberg.

But I think he would be much preferable to Trump.

Bernie Sanders has some nice, idealistic ideas--but they wouldn't work in the real world.


I can agree with that, though I would say that Bernie Sanders ideas aren't as idealistic as they're made out to be. Most of what he is proposing are the types of things FDR proposed.



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25 Jan 2016, 9:27 am

I am Canadian, but I honestly think that Rand Paul would be the best candidate for the presidential election. I just doubt he will win the republican nomination, let alone the election.


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25 Jan 2016, 10:41 am

Bloomberg would peel off Hillary/Sanders voters I would imagine, Bloomberg is not popular with Republicans to say the least.



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25 Jan 2016, 11:04 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.


Who says I'm forcing my views on anyone? I'm just stating how I'd choose having a car over a gun.

By supporting gun control and using that you don't see guns as important as a reason for it.


Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.


So you'd be okay with it if someone expressed an opinion that blacks should be sent back to Africa and gays put in concentration camps? After all, it wouldn't actually impact anyone if since it would just be an opinion.


Someone can rant and rave that sort of bigoted insanity all they want - this is a free country, after all. I just reserve the right to argue against them.


I just love it how you always have to lengths to remind us of the evils bigotry as if either you think we need to be told, or your reassuring yourself of your own beliefs...


You're the one who brought up those two scenarios, not I.

I just wanted to see what your reaction was to that scenario since you dwell on those. Actually, your reaction was different than what I expected.

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And isn't bigotry evil?

So is big government.
Well, big government is evil spawned from bureaucracy and arrogance but still evil in effect.


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25 Jan 2016, 11:04 am

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I know I am going to catch a lot of hate from saying this but I would rather have Hillary win the election.


No one is surprised that you love Hillary.


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25 Jan 2016, 12:41 pm

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And isn't bigotry evil?

So is big government.
Well, big government is evil spawned from bureaucracy and arrogance but still evil in effect.


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You cannot have a strong, capable military without big government. Nor can you have law & order which is the backbone of civilization.

I'm getting sick and tired of rightwing anarchists and their childish view of the world and the people in it. You can always relocate to Somalia or the Central African Republic in *big gubbermint* is such a problem for ya. :mrgreen:


Nevertheless, justice is something that right doesn't care about. The populist right values group identity and blind group loyalty more than anything else. So to them, bigotry is GOOD as long it is not aimed at them; LOL.