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26 Feb 2016, 9:12 pm

yes, the grass is always greener. lots of wilderness out here alright, so I guess each place has its advantages.



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26 Feb 2016, 9:20 pm

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yes, the grass is always greener. lots of wilderness out here alright, so I guess each place has its advantages.


Where is the island of defective toy santa's if you don't mind me asking?



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26 Feb 2016, 9:27 pm

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We should find better things to do with our time than being offended all the time.


This is a strawman. None of the activists I am talking about are offended all the time. Jeez. Talk about total invalidation of another person's experiences, a way to dismiss them to shut down both the conversation and thinking. A great way to keep hurting another person, while escaping with plausible deniability.

This stuff is like borderline gaslighting.


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26 Feb 2016, 9:30 pm

Who was I talking about? I wasn't talking about anybody. I didn't create any Strawman.

I was just saying, in general, that there are better things to do with our time than get offended all the time.



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26 Feb 2016, 9:31 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
yes, the grass is always greener. lots of wilderness out here alright, so I guess each place has its advantages.


Where is the island of defective toy santa's if you don't mind me asking?

southwestern Washington state, about 2 driving hours from the ocean. :santa: what neck o' the woods do you call home?



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26 Feb 2016, 9:36 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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yes, the grass is always greener. lots of wilderness out here alright, so I guess each place has its advantages.


Where is the island of defective toy santa's if you don't mind me asking?

southwestern Washington state, about 2 driving hours from the ocean. :santa: what neck o' the woods do you call home?


The stereotype is lots of rain in that area, I've never been, but aside from the constant cold rain (if it exists) it looks gorgeous in that area of the country.

Me: southwest Colorado, right near the four corners, snuggled gently between the western Rocky Mountains and the northern Sonoran desert outcropping...only place in the world where mountain forest meets high desert. Very dramatic.



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26 Feb 2016, 9:43 pm

Sounds like you're near Grand Junction.



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26 Feb 2016, 9:46 pm

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The stereotype is lots of rain in that area, I've never been, but aside from the constant cold rain (if it exists) it looks gorgeous in that area of the country. Me: southwest Colorado, right near the four corners, snuggled gently between the western Rocky Mountains and the northern Sonoran desert outcropping...only place in the world where mountain forest meets high desert. Very dramatic.

sounds purty :wtg: where I live averages 45 inches of rain per year. it seldom snows, but we are prone to hard freezes and gale-force winds. I can smell the ocean where I live because I live within a few miles of an ocean inlet [Puget Sound]. I see mt. rainier and the cascades from my neck o' the woods.



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26 Feb 2016, 9:48 pm

AuntBlabby, you might not be far from Portland, Oregon, actually. Maybe an hour's drive?



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26 Feb 2016, 9:49 pm

beneficii wrote:
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We should find better things to do with our time than being offended all the time.


This is a strawman. None of the activists I am talking about are offended all the time. Jeez. Talk about total invalidation of another person's experiences, a way to dismiss them to shut down both the conversation and thinking. A great way to keep hurting another person, while escaping with plausible deniability.

This stuff is like borderline gaslighting.


I agree. There is a tendency to be dismissive to those who point out a problem. I've noticed that sentiment a lot in this thread. "Why are you making a fuss?" sort of thinking.



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26 Feb 2016, 9:51 pm

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AuntBlabby, you might not be far from Portland, Oregon, actually. Maybe an hour's drive?

3 hours southwest of the emerald city as the cars drive. Portland is half a day's driving south of me.



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26 Feb 2016, 9:53 pm

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It wasnt blackface, and putting a photo of those kids wearing a charcoal pore mask, that is very popular with that age group, online is not in any way politically incorrect.

It doesn't matter why it's all over the news. It bothers me that it happened and they were told to apologize for something they didn't do.

Why don't those trigger happy SJWs just sue the manufacturer if the fact that charcoal does the job and charcoal is black and facial pores get clogged so people put it on there upsets them so much? Make them take it off the market and take whatever they win in the start up a Victims R Us support group nationwide to help all these obviously severely hurting people?

Can you not even admit that it wasn't blackface and that it is black because the active ingredient is black, and they were using it according to the manufacturers instructions? Blackface is not the same as this mask. It photographed thicker and darker than it is. In the mirror it's a very grey color and the consistency of honey. It's obviously not makeup when you look at it. Can't you admit that it isn't what you keep calling it? Because if it is blackface then they should take it off the market, as blackface is offensive. Is it blackface or is it a charcoal containing pore mask?

I know they did it in all innocence, but they should apologize for being ignorant about the history of blackface. I almost made the same mistake on Halloween one year, when I dressed up as a shaman with a plastic bone through my nose. Only my own laziness saved me from covering myself in black paint.



No they don't. Nobody ever needs to apologize for not being taught something. If they were ignorant of the history of blackface then the fault would lie with those charges with teaching them history.

Also they weren't ignorant of the history of blackface. They simply failed to see that the mask could look like somebody painting up in blackface. They apologized for any offense they they accidentally caused, and explained that it didn't cross their minds. The fact that they didn't make the connection between how the mask looks and how blackface looks only means their minds didn't go there right then. That in itself is nothing to apologize for.


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26 Feb 2016, 9:57 pm

No way!

You totally misinterpreted me!

I've experienced this myself--getting offended over things. It interfered with my enjoyment of life. I would get offended over this, and over that. I would stew in resentment. Then I realized....that's THEIR problem!! !! I would get insults left and right when I was younger. I learned to just block them out and think that it's THEIR problem!

HOW AM I BEING DISMISSIVE OF PEOPLE WHO GET OFFENDED??? HOW????

And this Gaslighting thing? I don't do that. People try to Gaslight me all the time.

I bet everybody sees the irony in this: I got offended...because somebody thought that I was dismissing people who get offended!! !! !! ! If I would adhere to that theory, then I'm dismissing myself in this instance.

And I didn't create a Strawman. I just made a general statement.

All this came straight out of left field.



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26 Feb 2016, 10:00 pm

AFAIC the migroaggression thing can be subtle on both ends, beneath conscious awareness mostly on the giving end but often enough on the receiving end also but with manifestations [general feelings of being besieged and heightened irritability at the thousand natural shocks that flesh is heir to] that percolate up into conscious thought indirectly. I am slowly learning to be more careful in my speech to different minority groups.



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26 Feb 2016, 10:04 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
No way!

You totally misinterpreted me!

I've experienced this myself--getting offended over things. It interfered with my enjoyment of life. I would get offended over this, and over that. I would stew in resentment. Then I realized....that's THEIR problem!! ! ! I would get insults left and right when I was younger. I learned to just block them out and think that it's THEIR problem!

HOW AM I BEING DISMISSIVE OF PEOPLE WHO GET OFFENDED??? HOW????

And this Gaslighting thing? I don't do that. People try to Gaslight me all the time.

All this came straight out of left field.


It doesn't pay to nurse grievances, that's for sure. It can make you fall into victim hood, which isn't healthy.
in this context your statement makes more sense.
SJWs aside, if enough people complain about the same thing there's probably something to it.



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26 Feb 2016, 10:21 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Sounds like you're near Grand Junction.

It's actually about five hours away...this entire side of the state is littered with canyons and mountains to navigate around. If it were as a bird flies it'd probably only be two and half hours away. You want remote though the nearest "large" town is Albuquerque: 6 hours, Phoenix: 6.5, Salt Lake: 7, Denver: 7.5. It's all small towns and open space in between. Perfect for an autistic that doesn't like dealing with lots of people.

Ok, time to re-engage in the argument, RAWR!! !