22 Jan 2018, 12:28 am
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Ah, the trolling equivalent of knocking the chess board over.
Resignation accepted. I'd be happy to offer you some pointers if you fancy a rematch.
22 Jan 2018, 12:43 am
I also know it really bothers some men that they can't make women talk to them. We can opt out of a conversation any time we want. 
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22 Jan 2018, 12:45 am
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
You keep misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm aware that laws can change, as abortion has been illegal before. What men can never change is that pregnancy is something that happens inside a woman's body, so arguing over it and comparing it to other "crimes" like theft and murder is ridiculous, because none of those other things happen exclusively inside the bodies of women like pregnancy does.
Abortion is commonly illegal now, never mind "before", conditional upon our ability to sustain the life of the fetus outside its mother. Comparing abortion to murder is hardly ridiculous - we're talking about making a premeditated decision to end the life of another human being, albeit at different a stage of development.
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You can try to change laws to make it illegal for a woman to choose what happens to her body, but you can't change the physical reality of pregnancy being a women's issue and a woman's choice.
The body I'm interested in is that of the fetus, not of its host. As your interest lies in enabling choices for women, I'll assume you're on board with my preference for replacing pregnancy - when and where desired - with artificial gestation.
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You can make our choices illegal, but you can't take the power to end pregnancy away from women no matter what you argue. That's why listening to men argue about abortion is entertaining to me.
You can make the our choices illegal, but you can't take the power to rape away from men no matter what you argue. That's why listening to women argue about rape is entertaining to me.
Fair comparison, no? You are making a "might makes right" argument, after all.
I've witnessed your "style" of argumentation with other commenters. You're not going to drag me into a discussion with you, it looks pretty unpleasant so I think I'll pass. I will however continue to laugh at all the salty men in this thread.
My God, that's all I had to say?!?!?!
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22 Jan 2018, 12:57 am
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
I also know it really bothers some men that they can't make women talk to them. We can opt out of a conversation any time we want.
How do you know what men are thinking? Again you're putting words in their mouths. Trying to make it sound like they meant something they never said so you can make them appear foolish.
22 Jan 2018, 1:04 am
RetroGamer87 wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
I also know it really bothers some men that they can't make women talk to them. We can opt out of a conversation any time we want.
How do you know what men are thinking? Again you're putting words in their mouths. Trying to make it sound like they meant something they never said so you can make them appear foolish.
Speaking of opting out of conversations... bye!
22 Jan 2018, 1:08 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
You keep misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm aware that laws can change, as abortion has been illegal before. What men can never change is that pregnancy is something that happens inside a woman's body, so arguing over it and comparing it to other "crimes" like theft and murder is ridiculous, because none of those other things happen exclusively inside the bodies of women like pregnancy does.
Abortion is commonly illegal now, never mind "before", conditional upon our ability to sustain the life of the fetus outside its mother. Comparing abortion to murder is hardly ridiculous - we're talking about making a premeditated decision to end the life of another human being, albeit at different a stage of development.
Quote:
You can try to change laws to make it illegal for a woman to choose what happens to her body, but you can't change the physical reality of pregnancy being a women's issue and a woman's choice.
The body I'm interested in is that of the fetus, not of its host. As your interest lies in enabling choices for women, I'll assume you're on board with my preference for replacing pregnancy - when and where desired - with artificial gestation.
Quote:
You can make our choices illegal, but you can't take the power to end pregnancy away from women no matter what you argue. That's why listening to men argue about abortion is entertaining to me.
You can make the our choices illegal, but you can't take the power to rape away from men no matter what you argue. That's why listening to women argue about rape is entertaining to me.
Fair comparison, no? You are making a "might makes right" argument, after all.
I've witnessed your "style" of argumentation with other commenters. You're not going to drag me into a discussion with you, it looks pretty unpleasant so I think I'll pass. I will however continue to laugh at all the salty men in this thread.
My God, that's all I had to say?!?!?!
I was thinking of you when I wrote that, so I'm glad you saw it. You were making a valiant effort but some people aren't genuinely in it ("it" being the art of online discussion) to exchange ideas, they just want to browbeat people for various reasons usually related to their own unhappiness in life. Don't let it get you down, you tried.
22 Jan 2018, 1:18 am
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
I've witnessed your "style" of argumentation with other commenters. You're not going to drag me into a discussion with you, it looks pretty unpleasant so I think I'll pass. I will however continue to laugh at all the salty men in this thread.
Edited after the fact, yet still trolling.
My "style of argumentation" is to point out the chaff in the hopes that people will focus their energies on separating it from the wheat. Whilst I appreciate some people prefer not to thresh or winnow, their decision not to do so remains something of a mystery to me.
22 Jan 2018, 1:20 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
My God, that's all I had to say?!?!?!
Yes, Bill.
All you had to do was to edit your post after the fact and hope that nobody would notice.
Whilst we're on the subject of intellectual dishonesty, have you found some principles yet?
22 Jan 2018, 1:45 am
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22 Jan 2018, 1:51 am
adifferentname wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
My God, that's all I had to say?!?!?!
Yes, Bill.
All you had to do was to edit your post after the fact and hope that nobody would notice.
Whilst we're on the subject of intellectual dishonesty, have you found some principles yet?
When did I ever say anything about editing my posts... you salty man?
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22 Jan 2018, 1:54 am
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
You keep misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm aware that laws can change, as abortion has been illegal before. What men can never change is that pregnancy is something that happens inside a woman's body, so arguing over it and comparing it to other "crimes" like theft and murder is ridiculous, because none of those other things happen exclusively inside the bodies of women like pregnancy does.
Abortion is commonly illegal now, never mind "before", conditional upon our ability to sustain the life of the fetus outside its mother. Comparing abortion to murder is hardly ridiculous - we're talking about making a premeditated decision to end the life of another human being, albeit at different a stage of development.
Quote:
You can try to change laws to make it illegal for a woman to choose what happens to her body, but you can't change the physical reality of pregnancy being a women's issue and a woman's choice.
The body I'm interested in is that of the fetus, not of its host. As your interest lies in enabling choices for women, I'll assume you're on board with my preference for replacing pregnancy - when and where desired - with artificial gestation.
Quote:
You can make our choices illegal, but you can't take the power to end pregnancy away from women no matter what you argue. That's why listening to men argue about abortion is entertaining to me.
You can make the our choices illegal, but you can't take the power to rape away from men no matter what you argue. That's why listening to women argue about rape is entertaining to me.
Fair comparison, no? You are making a "might makes right" argument, after all.
I've witnessed your "style" of argumentation with other commenters. You're not going to drag me into a discussion with you, it looks pretty unpleasant so I think I'll pass. I will however continue to laugh at all the salty men in this thread.
My God, that's all I had to say?!?!?!
I was thinking of you when I wrote that, so I'm glad you saw it. You were making a valiant effort but some people aren't genuinely in it ("it" being the art of online discussion) to exchange ideas, they just want to browbeat people for various reasons usually related to their own unhappiness in life. Don't let it get you down, you tried.
Reminds me of a Venture Bros. episode, where Dr Venture's arch nemesis, the Monarch, is in court facing charges, when Dr Venture exclaims, "All these years, and all I had to do is call the police?"
22 Jan 2018, 2:04 am
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22 Jan 2018, 2:11 am
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22 Jan 2018, 3:16 am
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
I also know it really bothers some men that they can't make women talk to them. We can opt out of a conversation any time we want.
How do you know what men are thinking? Again you're putting words in their mouths. Trying to make it sound like they meant something they never said so you can make them appear foolish.
Speaking of opting out of conversations... bye!
Excellent. Now I can't point out her strawman arguments without having to deal with her attempts at misdirection.
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
some people aren't genuinely in it ("it" being the art of online discussion) to exchange ideas, they just want to browbeat people for various reasons usually related to their own unhappiness in life.
22 Jan 2018, 7:51 am
22 Jan 2018, 12:35 pm
Piobaire wrote:
Yeah, but who cares if a bunch of murderous sluts die?
Good pure women don't need or seek abortions, we all know this.
