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I don’t know. You’d have to ask one. They are basically following the specific law codes in their state.

Everyone is assuming she looked like she was 18 but what if she looked like she was closer to 12? We just don’t know. The fact is that she was a 15 year old girl.

Maybe when she grows up, she will have PTSD from this event. I just want to say that her experience is valid.

I hope she doesn’t someday read that article and know it’s about her (the names have been changed) and feel like she’s been misrepresented or misunderstood.

Because the truth is that we really don’t fully know what happened or why. We just know the other side - the side that this particular journalist was most invested in based on specific projects he was working on at the time.

I have mistaken 14-15 year olds as 21 when I was a young adult myself. I have been mistaken as being 18-19 when I was 15 because I had breasts and a woman's body and I was fully developed, thanks early puberty. I once was crushing on a guy at work when I was 20 and then one day my boss broke the news and told me he was 15, I lost interest in him. And people telling me how smart I was to do that, what? This is so absurd, how is this smart? It's called being a decent human.

And I have seen young adults who I thought were 16 or 17 only for them to be 18 or 19. They all look the same. Anyone under 25 looks like a child to me because they all look the same but when you are that young, you have no way of knowing until you ask them and see their ID. People that age will not look like kids to you when you are that young.

I have never seen a 12 year old looking 18, only way that is possible is if they have an aging disease and less than 1000 people in the world have it. But I will quote Dr. Phil on this, "if anyone says they are underage, take it seriously, I don't care if they look 60, you block them and move on." I know he wasn't being literal when he mentioned 60, but still they could have an aging disease if a 60 year old does say they are 16. Maybe they have that rare disease. You never know. If a 30 year old tells you they are 15, I would say they are rejecting you so move on. I have seen teens on Dr. Phil who looked 30 and I wonder if they are just actors playing the minor to protect their identity and they are just retelling the story for the minor.

I have heard other stories about people getting themselves PTSD for doing things that was the fault of their own. I have heard about abusers getting themselves PTSD from reactive abuse from their victims or men getting PTSD so they never trust women again because they sexually assaulted her and they thought they were falsely accused. It's hard to validate them in these situations they were in. All we can think is "good."

No, I was saying that the 15 year old could’ve looked like she was 12. Maybe she got into the club because they were busy and weren’t closely examining people or their IDs. Maybe her fake ID wasn’t even that convincing. Maybe that club was known for letting underage people in which is why she went there. Maybe the guy didn’t buy that she was 18 because she looked young, like he wanted.

I’m not saying this is true by any means. It’s just a possibility. We don’t know because we don’t know her, him, or the full situation. I’ve seen a lot of assumptions being made when there’s not enough evidence to go upon.

If this situation were true, maybe he’d try to go with the narrative of not knowing, and then he would be free to abuse again.

This is why not knowing is not a good reason to get of a jail sentence. I would agree that there could be mitigating circumstances for a reduced sentence, though, if everything else checks out.

There have been judges that didn't go with law of code because they saw the nuance in the situation. If you can get the judge to see it, they will drop the charges on it.

I am not included in that “we.” It is not solely her fault and the law agrees with me.

By "we" I meant:



I would think only people who would sympathies with these people here if they were men would be the red pills and MGTW crowd.

Statutory rape can cause PTSD even for people in situations like this, not that we fully know the situation.

I would certainly feel sympathy for her and for any victim of rape.

If what you say about the club is true hypothetically, then they need to be sued by the parents for their negligence. If such club really does a thing, I hope they get sued. A person that is being charged for having sex with a minor could sue them too for it because of their negligence. The bar is also at fault too for putting minors and adults into danger.

Also this man is 18, of course she will look young if he also thought she was 18. 18 looks young because they are. I have seen people online say someone looks 12 when they did not and they were in their late teens. No way they were 12 and didn't look it either. What do they think a 12 year old looks like? A young adult? Even at that age when I had breasts and a woman's body, everyone still knew I was not an adult. Some people thought I was 15 the most, never higher than that. It was because of my face. When I was 13, people thought I was 16 or 17 the most then. Still obviously underage. I was 15 when I started to get mistaken as a young adult and I hated it because I was worried I had an aging disease, not because I thought men were going to take advantage of me and pray on me and not believe me when I say I am 15-17. Once a person says they are underage, the other person is no longer innocent when they keep at it.

You experience does not encompass all potential possibilities. Any number of situations are possible. We just don’t know.

I think we can all agree in 2022 that:
1. Most adults avoid dating anyone they know who is under 18
2, Where an adult male or female finds a teenager physically attractive they suppress their urges. Again most of us are quite capable of doing this.
3. Where a teenager pretends to be over 18 and uses a fake ID it is difficult to prosecute an adult who is legitimately fooled by their appearance (I also seriously doubt most men will ask a girl for her ID if she looks mature.)
4, One of the most popular porn searches for adult men is teen or school girl porn. Perhaps why this is might be something somebody should so a PhD project in psychology on as it suggests an underlying social problem which explains why 1 in 6 teen girls experience sexual assault.

I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about people who have gotten themselves PTSD for reactive abuse from their victim and men who have gotten themselves PTSD for getting consequences for sexually assaulting a woman because they thought they were falsely accused.

I should add that maybe adults should stop trusting other adults who are under 25, even if they are under 25 themselves. They could be lying about their ages and using fake ID.

Also don't open your legs to people you meet at adult places including bothels, don't stick it in there if you are a guy. Trust no one under the age of 25 and if they look young. You never know.

I also heard that there were minors that were posting videos of themselves on Porn Hub and boy did the website get in trouble for it. Once I found out about it, I have a good excuse to never go there and look for content I am interested in.

If the website can't verify their users with ID and their faces and only allow videos with them in it only, this puts everyones lives in danger. Unless fake ID is used, then the website isn't at fault.

And I have heard of adults being accused of being underage so they get banned or deleted. I saw someone ranting about it on Twitter and I told her she is obviously of age. She was 22. I used to worry about looking under age because I would be offended if I got that accusation. But thank goodness almost everyone doesn't think I am a minor and it's only people with wrinkles of 80-90 year olds that think I look like a kid.