Board index › Topical Discussion › Politics, Philosophy, and Religion

Proponents of gay marriage: what about bestiality?

Page 13 of 14 [ 220 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 10, 11, 12, 13, 14  Next

Previous topic | Next topic

NeantHumain
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,837
Location: St. Louis, Missouri

31 Oct 2010, 3:51 pm

Jono wrote:
StevieC wrote:
has this thread not been locked yet?


No, but it has been dead for two years until you decided to necro it.

Just noticed how old this thread is. 8O



visagrunt
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Age: 57
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,118
Location: Vancouver, BC

02 Nov 2010, 11:48 am

This raises a fascinating zoological study.

Apparently trolls can survive in a dormant state for as long as two years without being fed.


_________________
--James


JNathanK
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Oct 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,177

02 Nov 2010, 8:14 pm

Ummmmmm, well, one is a human being that can consent, and the other is an animal that can't. That's just gross/ I'm guessing you're a troll. I hope you get banned.



number5
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Jun 2009
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,691
Location: sunny philadelphia

02 Nov 2010, 8:16 pm

visagrunt wrote:
This raises a fascinating zoological study.

Apparently trolls can survive in a dormant state for as long as two years without being fed.


:lol:



Inuyasha
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,745

02 Nov 2010, 8:21 pm

JNathanK wrote:
Ummmmmm, well, one is a human being that can consent, and the other is an animal that can't. That's just gross/ I'm guessing you're a troll. I hope you get banned.


In theory you could argue this. However I would be more concerned about polygamy and children being forced into "marriage" resulting from gay marriage than this.



JNathanK
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Oct 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,177

02 Nov 2010, 9:13 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JNathanK wrote:
Ummmmmm, well, one is a human being that can consent, and the other is an animal that can't. That's just gross/ I'm guessing you're a troll. I hope you get banned.


In theory you could argue this. However I would be more concerned about polygamy and children being forced into "marriage" resulting from gay marriage than this.


Same thing dude, a child isn't old enough to make a decision and are forced and coerced into those marriages in any of the cultures that do it. Polygamy is practiced in cultures that usually treat women as subservient to men and often have child brides. Polygamy and child brides and misogyny often go hand in hand. If you have a culture that treats women as equal to men, as is the general case in most modern countries, you won't have issues with polygamy or child brides. One thing that is a general trend in the cultures that have child brides and polygamy is homophobia. Whether it was the ancient Hebrews, or Muslims, or Mormons, they all really hate gays.



Inuyasha
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,745

02 Nov 2010, 9:20 pm

JNathanK wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JNathanK wrote:
Ummmmmm, well, one is a human being that can consent, and the other is an animal that can't. That's just gross/ I'm guessing you're a troll. I hope you get banned.


In theory you could argue this. However I would be more concerned about polygamy and children being forced into "marriage" resulting from gay marriage than this.


Same thing dude, a child isn't old enough to make a decision and are forced and coerced into those marriages in any of the cultures that do it. Polygamy is practiced in cultures that usually treat women as subservient to men and often have child brides. Polygamy and child brides and misogyny often go hand in hand. If you have a culture that treats women as equal to men, as is the general case in most modern countries, you won't have issues with polygamy or child brides. One thing that is a general trend in the cultures that have child brides and polygamy is homophobia. Whether it was the ancient Hebrews, or Muslims, or Mormons, they all really hate gays.


Note this isn't my personal opinion on the matter but the argument must be made: Some cultures consider 11 year olds to be able to marry and have kids. Some cultures expect young kids to enter into relationships that would be illegal in most countries. They aren't necessarily treating women poorly either. So are you saying these cultures should be discriminated against while people for same sex marriage get the law changed exclusively for them.

Now to be honest, I think that this is like comparing apples to submarines, but you have to keep in mind how lawyers and other people think.



Fuzzy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,223
Location: Alberta Canada

02 Nov 2010, 9:35 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Note this isn't my personal opinion on the matter but the argument must be made: Some cultures consider 11 year olds to be able to marry and have kids. Some cultures expect young kids to enter into relationships that would be illegal in most countries. They aren't necessarily treating women poorly either. So are you saying these cultures should be discriminated against while people for same sex marriage get the law changed exclusively for them.

Now to be honest, I think that this is like comparing apples to submarines, but you have to keep in mind how lawyers and other people think.


Yes, but its always been the religious countries that approve of those things, not secular liberal ones. In fact, I can think of some very religious near east countries where... drum roll... you can marry your goat. Mutual consent not needed.


_________________
davidred wrote...
I installed Ubuntu once and it completely destroyed my paying relationship with Microsoft.


Inuyasha
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,745

02 Nov 2010, 9:47 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Note this isn't my personal opinion on the matter but the argument must be made: Some cultures consider 11 year olds to be able to marry and have kids. Some cultures expect young kids to enter into relationships that would be illegal in most countries. They aren't necessarily treating women poorly either. So are you saying these cultures should be discriminated against while people for same sex marriage get the law changed exclusively for them.

Now to be honest, I think that this is like comparing apples to submarines, but you have to keep in mind how lawyers and other people think.


Yes, but its always been the religious countries that approve of those things, not secular liberal ones. In fact, I can think of some very religious near east countries where... drum roll... you can marry your goat. Mutual consent not needed.


Uh-huh see Obama's Safe School Czar...

Being too secular can be just as bad as a theocracy.

Also a lot of the places I'm referring to consider 30 to be old and 40 to be ancient.



Fuzzy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,223
Location: Alberta Canada

02 Nov 2010, 10:03 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Note this isn't my personal opinion on the matter but the argument must be made: Some cultures consider 11 year olds to be able to marry and have kids. Some cultures expect young kids to enter into relationships that would be illegal in most countries. They aren't necessarily treating women poorly either. So are you saying these cultures should be discriminated against while people for same sex marriage get the law changed exclusively for them.

Now to be honest, I think that this is like comparing apples to submarines, but you have to keep in mind how lawyers and other people think.


Yes, but its always been the religious countries that approve of those things, not secular liberal ones. In fact, I can think of some very religious near east countries where... drum roll... you can marry your goat. Mutual consent not needed.


Uh-huh see Obama's Safe School Czar...


Never heard of that. I'll have a search.

Quote:
Being too secular can be just as bad as a theocracy.


Probably, but there isnt much precedence for anything past gay marriage in secular societies. On the other hand, there are modern American religious communities that do consider arranged marriages, marriage for minors and polygamy to be legit.

Quote:
Also a lot of the places I'm referring to consider 30 to be old and 40 to be ancient.


Right. Those are the places I was thinking of.


_________________
davidred wrote...
I installed Ubuntu once and it completely destroyed my paying relationship with Microsoft.


Fuzzy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,223
Location: Alberta Canada

02 Nov 2010, 10:12 pm

Ok. Safe school Czar: Dont you normally report an adult for having sex with a minor, not the other way around? The point of them being minors is that they are not culpable for their actions, and thus, not given the privileges of an adult.

But On the whole that guys a twat.


_________________
davidred wrote...
I installed Ubuntu once and it completely destroyed my paying relationship with Microsoft.


Inuyasha
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,745

02 Nov 2010, 10:18 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Ok. Safe school Czar: Dont you normally report an adult for having sex with a minor, not the other way around? The point of them being minors is that they are not culpable for their actions, and thus, not given the privileges of an adult.

But On the whole that guys a twat.


Obama's Safe School Czar is affiliated with NAMBLA, it isn't just the fact he is a twat (probably insulting twats) he believes that kind of abuse of kids is perfectly acceptable.



Descartes
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Apr 2008
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,288
Location: Texas, unfortunately

02 Nov 2010, 10:37 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Obama's Safe School Czar is affiliated with NAMBLA, it isn't just the fact he is a twat (probably insulting twats) he believes that kind of abuse of kids is perfectly acceptable.


Are you talking about Kevin Jennings? I believe the allegations against him have already been proven to be false. The young man who was supposedly solicited by an adult (however dubious that claim may be) was already of legal consenting age.



JNathanK
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Oct 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,177

02 Nov 2010, 10:52 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JNathanK wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JNathanK wrote:
Ummmmmm, well, one is a human being that can consent, and the other is an animal that can't. That's just gross/ I'm guessing you're a troll. I hope you get banned.


In theory you could argue this. However I would be more concerned about polygamy and children being forced into "marriage" resulting from gay marriage than this.


Same thing dude, a child isn't old enough to make a decision and are forced and coerced into those marriages in any of the cultures that do it. Polygamy is practiced in cultures that usually treat women as subservient to men and often have child brides. Polygamy and child brides and misogyny often go hand in hand. If you have a culture that treats women as equal to men, as is the general case in most modern countries, you won't have issues with polygamy or child brides. One thing that is a general trend in the cultures that have child brides and polygamy is homophobia. Whether it was the ancient Hebrews, or Muslims, or Mormons, they all really hate gays.


Note this isn't my personal opinion on the matter but the argument must be made: Some cultures consider 11 year olds to be able to marry and have kids. Some cultures expect young kids to enter into relationships that would be illegal in most countries. They aren't necessarily treating women poorly either. So are you saying these cultures should be discriminated against while people for same sex marriage get the law changed exclusively for them.

Now to be honest, I think that this is like comparing apples to submarines, but you have to keep in mind how lawyers and other people think.


Yah, I think they should be discriminated against. lol. ...not because they're a different culture but because I think that the other sex should be allowed to be more than house servants for men.



Inuyasha
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,745

02 Nov 2010, 10:56 pm

Descartes wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Obama's Safe School Czar is affiliated with NAMBLA, it isn't just the fact he is a twat (probably insulting twats) he believes that kind of abuse of kids is perfectly acceptable.


Are you talking about Kevin Jennings? I believe the allegations against him have already been proven to be false. The young man who was supposedly solicited by an adult (however dubious that claim may be) was already of legal consenting age.


The allegations come from what is in a book written by Kevin Jennings.



Descartes
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Apr 2008
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,288
Location: Texas, unfortunately

02 Nov 2010, 11:03 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
The allegations come from what is in a book written by Kevin Jennings.


What is the title of this book?