Atheism and Satanism

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On 24 March 1954 Einstein answered in English as follows:



It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

My eyes are so tired that I thought the title of the topic was: Atheism and Sanitation.

I can see how, like Satanism, atheism is heresy in the eyes of a devout Christian so it could be correlated with it, but atheism is hardly reactionary. I am something of an atheist-agnostic, but I have no interest in mocking Christianity, as a matter of fact I find it extremely interesting to study.

Well, what the hell. Christianity is such a juicy target.

Nonetheless, that does Not imply the existance of the supernatural.

People just love to put words in Gods mouth, lets let The Good Lord Himself do the talking from now on, eh.

I'm not completely sure what an Atheist is, I don't believe is god so that must mean I am then, it was a label that has been put on me.

I don't know much about Satanism other than that it is an evil Christian thing.

I don't really like labels been put on me for not having anything to do with something. That's how it goes I guess.

The definitions for both Atheism and Satanism have been displayed in this thread quite a few times but I'll post them again, my definitions and a bit more of both anyhow:

Atheism - The disbelief in all higher powers, gods, deities etc. by dictionary definition basically. If someone tells you they're an Atheist however you can assume they just don't believe in any religions, spiritual things, or anything like that. Aside from religious state of mind Atheists don't differ at all from normal people, same morals (well I can't say the same if the person was brought up in a completely different culture than you, it may be different then), same feelings, etc. It's still not fully understood why people would accuse Atheists of not having morals, in fact, Atheists having morals and being as a majority nice people shows more than ever how certain religions fear tactics, such as hell shows aren't needed to make someone behave. When an Atheist is nice to you it's not because he's or she's afraid of burning for eternity, it's because he or she would like to be nice, nothing more. xD

Satanism - Now first off there's two different types to my knowledge, Spiritual Satanism and LaVeyan Satanism. The latter I read about once and know a bit about, but I really have no knowledge of what Spiritual Satanists do. Of course if you're interested in any of this look it up on Google, but as for the Satanism I'm somewhat familiar with here's what I know. Anton Szandor LaVey founded the Church of Satan sometime in April 1966, he also wrote a book called the Satanic Bible. I downloaded the Satanic Bible a while back and from my opinion one of the main things you could argue it helps you with is how to be human in a world that tells you not to be. For example, it argues all the main religions people follow are developed upon abstinence, where as it isn't human to be abstinent. It's natural for the human and every other animal to engage in sexual activities from time to time. There are also some other things that don't relate to sex at all that could be deemed useful in the Satanic Bible. As I said earlier however, I'm not very knowledgeable with Satanism in general except lightly on the Church of Satan so look it up on Google. I do know that the Church of Satan version of Satanism acknowledges that no gods, higher powers, etc. exist so that is an Atheist characteristic, but in no way is Satanism Atheism or the other way around.

The above definitions should give you an idea, and for the record the answer to this thread, Is Atheism Satanism is of course no, though I think that's been answered earlier.

I am quite sure God does play with dice.

Your informal logical fallacy, let me show you it.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/slipslop.html

This is your way of saying, "I disagree."

People I agree with make logical mistakes all the time. I am not a fan of George W. Bush, but I have seen people who feel the same way commit the genetic fallacy, the accident and the converse accident, the false dilemma, post hoc ergo propter hoc, the unwarranted contrast, tu quoque, the straw man, and my personal favorite, reductio ad Hitlerum.

Do you ever make logical mistakes?

Probably, though I try not to. If you want to respond with a hearty "HA!" remember that that would be http://www.fallacyfiles.org/tuquoque.html .

I don't keep a list of logical fallacies.

Might some atheists fall into this fallacy?
http://skepdic.com/ignorance.html

Wether atheist or christian or whatever, some fall into this:
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/authorit.html

and
this
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/fallfall.html


The quoque fallacy, I believe is also used when accusing an opponent of ad hominmem or accusing someone of using a fallacy as a defense mechanism, wouldn't be?