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11 Aug 2015, 11:12 pm

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I'm wondering if some people might end up voting for T. Rump as a vote of no confidence, and not because they actually like him? Barely anybody seems to have any trust left in either party, and the common thing I've heard is that voting for him will the way of sticking their middle finger up at both parties.

the problem is that I think a vote for him will be more often than not a vote taken away from a democrat and given to a gop. so those very same voters may find themselves getting the big middle finger shoved way up where the moon don't shine.


Then what about Bernie Sanders? Everyone and their brother is saying that Sanders doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of even winning an election for dog catcher.

I flat out don't like Billary. She and Sick Willie are Democrats in name only. They are more ReThuglican in the mold of Ronald Reagan.

I don't like the Rump. He too far aligned with the Koch Brothers, Larry Eliason, the Shrub dynasty, etc. to even care about the average joe. They, and the rest of the ReThiglican's all remind me of Gordon "Greed is good" Gekko.

Joe Biden for President? I don't think so. He's nothing more than a stooge, and couldn't think his way out of a paper sack, let alone think for himself.

AFAIC, Sanders is the only one out there right now that is saying something different and has a plan. I haven't heard anyone speak that had a definite plan since Rev. Jesse Jackson ran for President in 1980. I didn't agree with everything that Rev. Jackson said at the time, nor do I agree with everything Sanders says now (If I did, I'd be no better than the "ditto heads" that agree with anything Rush Limbaugh says).



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11 Aug 2015, 11:17 pm

the problem with sanders is he is a wimp. this is the ONLY thing I agree with The Rump about [he called him weak in response to his craven capitulation to two black female protesters who wrested the microphone from his hands and belittled him and his crowd in seattle a few days back]. if he can't defend himself against such mild trespasses, how are any competitors gonna let this pass without playing that video back in countless political ads at his expense? he is FINISHED.



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12 Aug 2015, 12:36 am

I actually like Sanders a great deal. I doubt he'll get the Presidential nomination, though I think he'll get enough support to create a liberal progressive groundswell that he will be able to influence the Democratic platform significantly.


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12 Aug 2015, 12:42 am

I admired him a great deal also until I saw him get bullied like that. he let those activists berate his audience! that tells me when the chips are down he will succumb. I'm very disappointed in him.



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12 Aug 2015, 4:58 am

I hear Hilary Clinton wants to run for state again. Only way she'd be able to vouch for that, is if someone shoved at atomic bomb up her backside.



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12 Aug 2015, 11:18 am

If it weren't for the fact the ReThuglicans threw him under the bus, and probably won't even consider running now, I'd be voting for Colin Powell.



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12 Aug 2015, 11:31 am

No thanks...he should stick to being a talk show celebrity thing or whatever he was known as before...hell on his site thing, it doesn't even say what is stances are on the issues or what he would want to try and accomplish/do as president. Its all just a bunch of self glorifying stuff about how he's such a self made, pull yourself up by your bootstraps real rugged american that went to expensive business schools...common lore suggests he was born into opportunity actually though.


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12 Aug 2015, 2:56 pm

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If it weren't for the fact the ReThuglicans threw him under the bus, and probably won't even consider running now, I'd be voting for Colin Powell.

he is wisely waiting until the gop either self-destructs/disintegrates, or [unlikely] comes to its senses, to step in and pick up the pieces and make a new start. AFAIC, anybody who likes old Volvos can't be all bad [that is gen. powell's hobby, fixing up old Volvos].



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13 Aug 2015, 8:31 pm

I will give credit where credit is due: the Donald has reversed himself on that ridiculous story line popular with Republican Presidential hopefuls about Planned Parenthood selling baby parts on the open market, and now swears he will not touch funding to that organization. Sure, Trump probably has ulterior motives, such as capturing the women's vote, but sometimes that's just how the greater good gets accomplished.


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13 Aug 2015, 8:56 pm

the only good thing that could come out of all this mess, is the possible creation of a viably powerful 3rd party.



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13 Aug 2015, 10:33 pm

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I admired him a great deal also until I saw him get bullied like that. he let those activists berate his audience! that tells me when the chips are down he will succumb. I'm very disappointed in him.


Actually, it seems there is method in Bernie's madness in the way he handled the Black Lives Matter demonstrators. After letting them say their peace, he has since incorporated them into his campaign, even going to the extent of making one of their movement's speakers a payed staffer of his campaign. I see this as a great move to getting black support.


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13 Aug 2015, 10:36 pm

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I admired him a great deal also until I saw him get bullied like that. he let those activists berate his audience! that tells me when the chips are down he will succumb. I'm very disappointed in him.


Actually, it seems there is method in Bernie's madness in the way he handled the Black Lives Matter demonstrators. After letting them say their peace, he has since incorporated them into his campaign, even going to the extent of making one of their movement's speakers a payed staffer of his campaign. I see this as a great move to getting black support.

Hmmmmm..... :chin: how Machiavellian of him, I wouldn't have expected such from him. people are full of surprises.



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13 Aug 2015, 10:39 pm

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I admired him a great deal also until I saw him get bullied like that. he let those activists berate his audience! that tells me when the chips are down he will succumb. I'm very disappointed in him.


Actually, it seems there is method in Bernie's madness in the way he handled the Black Lives Matter demonstrators. After letting them say their peace, he has since incorporated them into his campaign, even going to the extent of making one of their movement's speakers a payed staffer of his campaign. I see this as a great move to getting black support.

Hmmmmm..... :chin: how Machiavellian of him, I wouldn't have expected such from him. people are full of surprises.


While I still have no doubt Bernie is the most honest person reaching for the White House right now, it's obvious that he couldn't have lasted nearly as long in politics as he had without having a few tricks up his sleeve.


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13 Aug 2015, 10:44 pm

I DO hope he is the stealth candidate. I wonder how he would do face to face with The Rump? I suspect it will be like that thing about how arguing with T Rump is like playing chess with a pigeon, in that it would knock the pieces over, poop all over the board and strut around like it won.



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13 Aug 2015, 11:06 pm

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I admired him a great deal also until I saw him get bullied like that. he let those activists berate his audience! that tells me when the chips are down he will succumb. I'm very disappointed in him.


Actually, it seems there is method in Bernie's madness in the way he handled the Black Lives Matter demonstrators. After letting them say their peace, he has since incorporated them into his campaign, even going to the extent of making one of their movement's speakers a payed staffer of his campaign. I see this as a great move to getting black support.

Hmmmmm..... :chin: how Machiavellian of him, I wouldn't have expected such from him. people are full of surprises.


While I still have no doubt Bernie is the most honest person reaching for the White House right now, it's obvious that he couldn't have lasted nearly as long in politics as he had without having a few tricks up his sleeve.



From what I hear he might be the only one viable to be voted for....I didn't even vote in the last two.


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13 Aug 2015, 11:07 pm

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I DO hope he is the stealth candidate. I wonder how he would do face to face with The Rump? I suspect it will be like that thing about how arguing with T Rump is like playing chess with a pigeon, in that it would knock the pieces over, poop all over the board and strut around like it won.


Now, that would be a hilarious sight indeed - Trump dropping his pants and taking a sh*t, then proudly strutting about in front of the TV cameras! :lol:


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