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Would you date a feminist?
Yes 37%  37%  [ 55 ]
No 36%  36%  [ 53 ]
Ima girl 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Ima girl and still yes 19%  19%  [ 29 ]
I'm a feminist and I am offended by this thread 6%  6%  [ 9 ]
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01 Apr 2016, 5:48 am

It's funny:

But I've always felt that I wanted a woman who stayed home while I worked.

I've always housework, sometimes, is more of a job than a "job."

I'm better at out-of-the-house things than in-the-house things.

I like working outside the home; I don't like to clean, and I'm pretty poor at it.

My wife and I would get along much better if she would just stay home.



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01 Apr 2016, 5:58 am

I'd see nothing wrong with that attitude sir, even if you were 20 years younger - it's totally up to the two people involved and their own choices.



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01 Apr 2016, 6:02 am

Kraftie, I don't think that's uncommon, particularly in our generation.

TBH I'd rather pay someone then have a resentful and bitter wife if she's not fine with that kind of stuff. I'd hate it if someone would expect it from me, that's for sure :lol:


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01 Apr 2016, 6:06 am

In middle east, plenty of so-called "housewives" of high to upper middle classes don't do any housework, they would rather demand from their hubbies to enslav...I mean to "hire" some Asian maid to do....everything.

It's actually the working couples who rarely hire maids, the working-husband-only couples are often of wealthier classes.



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01 Apr 2016, 6:59 am

Please let me emphasize: I'm not into this "barefoot and pregnant" sort of situation.

My wife is a nurse, and enjoys being a nurse.

But she's getting a little older, and is starting to feel quite tired, and she has a high standard of house cleanliness which I can't meet. Meeting that standard requires a high degree of labor on her part (she cleans over what I clean).

She's going to retire soon anyway.

I'm really thinking that we will get along much better once she retires. She can then implement her interior-decorating ideas while not having to go to work. She can join other people who have similar interests. She'll be happier, when it comes right down to it, once she stops working.



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01 Apr 2016, 7:11 am

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I apologise if my post seemed some kind of attack, Kraftie, I wasn't insinuating anything, nor would I think you're the type who wants to keep their woman "barefoot and pregnant" o_O


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01 Apr 2016, 7:32 am

Cleanness-obsessed people often don't trust anyone else in cleaning and would clean over what was already cleaned.



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01 Apr 2016, 7:51 am

I actually agreed with what you said, Mr. Rodriguez.

I was just clarifying because there are people who might interpret what I said to mean I want to revert back to previous times, with previous set-in-stone gender roles.



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01 Apr 2016, 7:58 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I actually agreed with what you said, Mr. Rodriguez.

I was just clarifying because there are people who might interpret what I said to mean I want to revert back to previous times, with previous set-in-stone gender roles.


Cheers :)

Different views about what "clean" is can be as big a point of contention as finances, so I get it.


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01 Apr 2016, 8:22 am

Oh I didn't mean that either, Mr. kraftiekortie.

Just that if you find it would be more practical for your wife to be at home soon, which you do, then of course that's perfectly normal.



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01 Apr 2016, 8:46 am

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f**k No! sorry but every one of them I've ever met is a freaking b*tch. I give people benefit of the doubt but I have to admit after the past couple days I am a little bit biased due to one who defines them self as such.


You are feminist even if you don't label yourself so, I assume you are pro equality - which makes you feminist by definition.


Well why aren't the ones who call themselves feminist pro-equality than...by pro equality I mean choice. Like so this chick wants to be totally independent not at all rely on her husband for finances...whatever doesn't mean you impose it on every other woman and her S.O. Me and my boyfriend will have to pool together resources to get and keep a place anyways so neither one of us is entirely supporting the other anyways not that it's any of her business.


If this comment is directed at me, I would prefer not to be referred to as "this chick", thanks. That's a little rude and condescending, not sure why I deserve that as I don't think I've even said anything to Sweetleaf.

In regards to my ex (and this was over 10 years ago, when I as much younger) I payed half the rent because we weren't married and I considered him my roommate. Our arrangement might have been different if we had ended up getting married like we had planned, because he was almost done school and I was just getting started. So the likelihood is he would have to pay more in to the relationship at first for us to get by, until I was done school. Then, if I had gone through with my degree, I probably would have ended up making more money and paying in more. We talked about all this when we moved in together.

I can't believe people are getting mad at me for suggesting that adults should make their own decisions--and I did say people living together should make choices TOGETHER--that is, if you both agree that one of you is better at something than the other, then that person does that activity and the other does what they are good at. THese are the sort of choices I was talking about that you make when you have shared goals. You guys are misinterpreting a lot of what I'm saying for some reason. It seems like many of you have biases against the labels you are tossing around.


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01 Apr 2016, 8:53 am

A normal feminist, yes. I prefer them.

By a normal feminist I mean someone who believes in equality whilst understanding that men and women are biologically different things and will never, ever be identically represented across all situations in all ways. Someone who puts some eggs in the social basket, whilst also respecting the science basket. What I'd call a 'normal' modern person really, who probably doesn't bring up feminism that much, if at all, and just lives by particular standards, has self-respect and is mentally and financially independent.

A radical feminist, or one who misuses feminism to blame men for all problems and tries to make things easier for women than for men, or who thinks a couple of years of social thinking can undo millions of years of evolution, no.

I believe that everyone deserves to be equal regardless of gender and that no one person is more important than the other.



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01 Apr 2016, 8:57 am

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...people living together should make choices TOGETHER--that is, if you both agree that one of you is better at something than the other, then that person does that activity and the other does what they are good at.


Yep, this and what cathylynn said is exactly what I meant with finding a balance and not keeping score, as in my experience, people do it when they feel they are forced or pressured in some way to do things they hate or can't cope with. Sure recipe for resentment and strife.


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01 Apr 2016, 9:09 am

That's an interesting UK-based infographic.

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Employment among men is declining dramatically (that's the case everywhere btw) while among women is rising.

The question is: Will the idea of getting an unemployed bf/husband be ever widely acceptable among women (as how it is with men)? With this trend, they will have no other option but to accept that at some point.



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01 Apr 2016, 9:12 am

I don't agree that overall being male gets you an easier ride in life than being a woman.

The evidence shows that females are put under pressure not to have sex while missing the fact that the pressure males are put under to get a girlfriend and have sex is equally as bad and can be a root to issues such as depression in young males who don't have great social skills.

Both face societal pressures that are equally bad and neither gender have an easy ride in this respect so let's not negate either struggles.

I understand the point of view that historically females have been oppressed and thus feminism with its focus on females and it's name was whole heartedly justified and I completely agree with you, but it's exactly that- history.

Around a decade ago I was growing up pointing out the hypocrisies and bs against women but over the last 10 years I've also seen the pendulum swing back.



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01 Apr 2016, 9:19 am

So I see a trend among male respondents here: Yes for normal feminists, NO for radical whining hypocrite radical feminists.

That should indicate something, no?