Please stop with the excess hatred and anger of Trump

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Freedom of speech,well there it goes.Funny that it's ok for trump to tweet into the hours of the night but it's not ok for anyone else.The National Park service was established by our government so it is involved in politics.They are federal employees and have a right to criticize what they see as unjust.

You keep repeating this lie. Every time you do, I challenge it. You are always then unable to provide anything to support this assertion. I am forced to conclude that you simply don't care whether the things you say are true or even vaguely accurate. You have very little understanding of the economic realities of Asian countries.

The most prosperous Asian countries are either oil states or free trading East Asian countries. Let's use the present US at the benchmark for whether a country embraces free trade or not. The US has an average tariff rate of 1.5% (which already drives up the cost of clothing and sugar). The most prosperous East Asian countries/territories are Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau, and South Korea.

Of those countries, five have lower tariff rates than the US.

Three of those countries have GDPs per capita which are higher than the US. Taiwan maintains one around the same level as Germany, despite strained relations with geopolitical neighbours. Japan is over $4000 dollars per person better off than South Korea, the poorest country on that list and the only "protectionist" one.

I realise there might be some scepticism about whether those countries are merely Brunei-style or Luxembourg-style microstates living off oil or bank deposits. That sort of thing does probably inflate Macau's GDP per capita, but it still has a larger population than Luxembourg. Combined, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau have a population the size of Texas. They're proper countries.

Oh, and the mainland PRC? Stagnant economy for decades until they made neoliberal reforms in 1978. That was followed by decades of uninterrupted growth at rates that most countries only dream of. They've gone from earning $3 a week each to $130. That's still quite low, but then trade barriers are still quite high. Imagine what will happen when it gets rid of those...

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... SKBN15906G

This goes beyond national parks, they are trying to cover up climate change facts and research. The more that is hidden- the easier it is for them to pollute more and do more to get money with oil! It's a good thing that people have moved stuff to Europe websites and archived stuff to their own computers. It's like Trump and his idiots refuse to understand anything that isn't their own view. SICKENING!

Did you hear about CDC cancelling climate change conference? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

When jerks in politics are trying to erase hard work and destroy things- people have EVERY right to bring it up. If people are just silent- what good does that do? Censorship isn't the way to go ever.

If you are a Democrat and don't like what's going on in America, move somewhere else. I recommend moving to a rural area where there are almost enough other Democrats to tip the balance. Unless we fix the electoral college, we either have to change our message to include more counties or else move to those counties and turn them blue.

Also, Secret Service Agent who said on Facebook that she wouldn't take a bullet for The President, resign. Wait, wind that back, publicly being a Secret Service Agent on Facebook? You're fired. I have this thing about names, and maybe I'm wrong, but they are supposed to be some kind of a secret service, right?

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Unless I have missed something, they didn't criticise Trump, merely posted facts about the environment.

I'd be surprised if anyone is really thinking that they'd just love to view some beautiful scenery, but cursing their luck that they can't because the Rangers are sending educational tweets.

I'm a pretty fierce republican, but I don't refuse to visit Windsor Great Park in case my appreciation of nature is mistaken for a belief in the divine right of kings.

Obama misused to the federal government in pursuing his global warming agenda, the CDC and NASA are not appropriate. They want to meddle in gun ownership with the CDC to, this would be like Trump having the CDC work on immigration. Obama is thankfully not the president anymore and his policies can be wiped away, his control of these social media handles is OVER!

Yay! I don't have to waste my time expounding the truth about our dear leader anymore. Here's a quote from the mayor of the fabulous city I live in. To wit:

“Seattle is the same city today that it was yesterday … guided by equality and inclusion and openness,” Murray said.

The mayor said Trump has “demonstrated outright misogyny, demonstrated xenophobia and homophobia, nationalism, racism and authoritarian tendencies.”

(And now, I casually wait to hear, predictably, from the dear leader's followers how Obama, Hillary and Bill are worse offenders).

The CDC was founded in 1946 to control diseases. President Obama was only elected in 2008, which is over 60 years later. Indeed, Obama wasn't even born until 1961.

The role of the CDC is to control diseases. Climate change is already having significant effects on the spread of disease. Emerging zoonotic diseases are likely to pose increasing threats to the United States and it seems entirely appropriate that a public body dedicated to protecting people from infectious disease would consider how future changes would affect that. I know that Public Health England consider it and I am sure that equivalent bodies around the world do too.

NASA has been launching Earth Observation satellites since the 60s. Again, it seems entirely appropriate for them to do so and to report their findings.

More poor news coverage. They keep blandly referring to the Interrogation Techniques laid out in some numbered Army Field Manual with no context except as in opposition to Trump's plans to do worse than waterboarding.

Maybe the current set of interrogation techniques was drafted by a bunch of Obama's hippie muslim cronies in some smoke filled room?

I tend to think that it was written by serious professionals who want the best information possible, put into terms that the average above average person can easily understand and implement in an emergency. I've read some of those manuals, and I get the idea that they were written in good faith by experts.

No more School of the Americas, ever.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/21/politics/ ... ce-tweets/

On Inauguration Day they retweeted that misleading meme about crowd sizes.

I have no problem with educational tweets, but these latest ones are obviously done to spite Trump.

I'm not worried about my appreciation of nature being mistaken for anything, this Twitter activity just left a bad taste in my mouth.

Blimey, that's a big difference! I guess it's not a surprise given the historic nature of the Obama presidency and the demographic makeup of DC. Apparently Trump's crowd was about the same size as for Dubya and Clinton from 1997-2005, so nothing to be ashamed of, but it's clear he was hoping for something along the lines of Obama.

It does seem like those were sent to make a political point. Although the Mall is a National Park, apparently they're not allowed to estimate the size of crowds and made a break from tradition for Obama's inauguration.

I agree that it wasn't very professional. At the same time I don't really think the size of the crowd is worth making a fuss about either way. I'm not sure whether it's a strategic victory for the White House - create a storm about this so they can distract from the huge anti-Trump marches - or a failure because it's made them look silly and petty.

It must be a special rule for Inaugurations. The DC Park Service was always publicly understating the number of people in our protests, and I assume that was their standard practice. Point is, they estimate numbers for lots of other things.

If I could roll my eyes any harder I think I'd go blind from the strain it would put on my optic nerves.

Please don't put Trump supporters in the same category as minorities. No one chooses to be a minority, you choose to be a Trump supporter.


Yes, and in the past there's always been an easy way to deal with bigots; shut them out, no-platform them, keep them out of politics, and never let them feel like they're in good company. We need to have the strength to tell bigots that their values are not welcome in civilized society. Sadly that's a strength not a lot of Americans seem to have anymore.

Nothing about Trump's policies are racist or bigoted.

Will you stipulate that they sound racist to a not insignificant number of people?

I mean that in the sense of, whoever they are they can suck it?
or cheer. They sound racist to actual racists.

Censorship only legitimizes the point of view of the censored due to reverse psychology. Look at all the books banned by schools that end up being smuggled in out of rebellion. Censorship is closely tied to oppression: the Nazis are the most famous example with book burning, but in ancient times the destruction of libraries and other places of learning was often done in times of war, especially by the winners.

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