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This is me reading your posts a lot of the time:

There is always peoples with marginal opinions that don't speak up to maintain social acceptance; this is something that come with with being a social specie and is unavoidable in a society with the scale of modern civilization and should not confounded with censorship, as shaming is not real censorship. Free speech mean that someone can express their opinion without fear of persecution from government and that they keep their legal rights and protections; not that they protected from accusation of racism or sexism, which are also protected as free speech.

Really? I think you overestimate the import of supplied search terms.


All the results on the first page were prior to the election. So it makes sense that the term would be in use. But now why would people want to hide their support - Trump won? Your evidence speaks against your point.

Trump winning (which many or most on the left say is invalid) didn't deescalate the situation. It's been in full swing before, during and after.

The best example of this in action is probably the Wisconsin polls. Look at any Real Clear Politics polls before the election and you will find multiple polls showing the state solidly in the Clinton camp. Yet on the day of the election the state went to Trump. How do you explain this if not for a large number of people hiding their support for Trump.

Maybe they're just ashamed of supporting a bloviating, ignorant blowhard. Not much pride to be had in supporting someone like that.

That's a good way to gloss it over I suppose.

No, it's just a suggestion about why some hide the fact that they voted for Trump.

I'm talking about current closet Trump supporters.

So am I.

Okay, but if they support him, then they obviously don't view him as a "bloviating, ignorant blowhard", so shame isn't a factor. However, they might be leery of the backlash they might encounter from those with such passionate hatred for the president. Not applying this to you personally, but when around people that absolutely hate and despise the president with a passion, people most likely don't don't want that level of extreme vitriol directed at them. Basically like that guy experienced on an airplane. Or the girl someone tried to set on fire. The message seems very clear, "don't you dare express support for Trump". If you do, you might get yelled at or attacked and probably labeled a bigot, fascist, nazi etc. Leftists are being viewed as thugs and who wants to take the chance on provoking thugs?

I think there are people who were turned off by Trump's pandering to racists, and his blatant ignorance, but who thought at the time he was the lesser of two evils, and now have buyer's remorse.

it is an insane situation in america as far as i can see from my australian TV exposure to it.

violence can occur anywhere and there is a high level of paranoia that manifests in citizens being cold to each other and police going beserk at the slightest infraction.

people who are pulled over for having a broken tail light are approached by the police with guns drawn and yelled at to drop their keys outside their car and place both hands outside the car window.

then a policeman sheepishly approaches the car with about 2 others with their guns pointed at the culprit, and when the door is opened, the occupant is hauled out and pinned to the ground in a brutal frenzy. but they (the police) do not know who they are dealing with. eventually the occupant is apologized to and told to get their light fixed if they are found to be clean.

so many drugs are taken by americans and ice is the worst, and it may be someone with a weapon in their car etc...that the cop is approaching.


in australia, that would never happen.

i guess if trump can somehow quell that anxiety and paranoia which results in police shooting unarmed innocent black men, and therefore also quelling protests against police brutality, maybe it would be good, but it is guns that make them so paranoid.

if i was a policeman in america and pulling over a simple citizen for speeding, i would wonder if they have a gun in their car and approach then with extreme caution.

trump should get rid of guns. terrorist attacks are large and newsworthy, but in a year, the amount of gun deaths among the citizens outnumbers the amount of casualties from bombs exploded in public places.

guns and crack and ice and poverty should all be the prime considerations.

cannabis is a calming drug for most.


sometimes i see shows on foxtel about negros who shoot people and are into drug distribution and stuff, but i wonder what they would be like if they won a million dollars in a lottery, or became lucky in some orthodox way.

would they become calm orderly happy citizens but for that?

trump is making decisions at a level of thought that may not be sufficient to address the actual problems.

That's not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who love Donald Trump and would love to wear hats and t-shirts and all that saying that, but are afraid of what might be done against them of they do. Your statement right there, pandering to racists. Who wants to take a chance on being viewed as a racist by someone with the seething hatred that's displayed?

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I would be more afraid of them than they could possibly be afraid of me.

Why is that?