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17 Aug 2021, 4:58 am

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If you really believe none of Biden's strikes have killed no civilians, then you are more out of touch than I imagined.

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/12/stop-t ... an-cities/

You're pushing of pro war propanda, and the constant regurgitation of establishment talking points, is really disgusting!


You need to educate yourself about your own country. Regardless of who is in charge, the US has been both a national security state (started with a secret war on communism then moved to war on terror) and a military-industrial complex since the early 1950s.

It's actually a republican president, Dwight Eisenhower, who in 1961 warned "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."

Eisenhower was worried about the costs of an arms race with the Soviet Union, and the resources it would take from other areas -- such as building hospitals and schools.

Every president has had to deal with military hawks in the US military-industrial complex who operate in league with the NSA and CIA in getting involved in foreign wars. What Eisenhower made clear is the office of president lost control of the military a long time ago.

Getting worked up over Biden and other democrats influence over the military is pointless and somewhat ignorant given they are no better or worse than republicans when it comes to US military actions overseas. It's actually getting quite irritating.


Wow, thanks for the education! I didn't even know who Eisenhower was! Ha!

Doggone it, I'm sorry I irritated you. I know it's silly to worry about the biggest existential threat to the U.S. and the world at large, aside from climate change.

The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


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17 Aug 2021, 5:55 am

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The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


Rather arrogant assumption. Just because you live geographically in the US doesn't automatically make you i) an expert on US political policy ii) an expert on US foreign policy iii) determining culpability in military actions and iv) determining who is allowed to comment on the US.



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17 Aug 2021, 9:10 am

cyberdad wrote:
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The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


Rather arrogant assumption. Just because you live geographically in the US doesn't automatically make you i) an expert on US political policy ii) an expert on US foreign policy iii) determining culpability in military actions and iv) determining who is allowed to comment on the US.


That wasn't the point at all. I just don't think you care at all about the human cost of these wars.


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17 Aug 2021, 9:16 am

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The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


OUCH! 8O :mrgreen:



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17 Aug 2021, 9:21 am

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The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


OUCH! 8O :mrgreen:


What else can I think, right?


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17 Aug 2021, 9:21 am

Pepe wrote:
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The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


OUCH! 8O :mrgreen:


But is the description wrong...



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17 Aug 2021, 9:22 am

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Well, I can only stomach reading so much of your posts at a time.


OUCH! 8O :mrgreen:



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17 Aug 2021, 9:24 am

Brictoria wrote:
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The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


OUCH! 8O :mrgreen:


But is the description wrong...


No comment.
D'oh, I just did. 8O :mrgreen:



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17 Aug 2021, 9:30 am

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in order for amuuuurican politics to not make one wanna go right out and take a long walk off a short pier, one must severely lower one's expectations of our leadership and policy, to merely not being quite so evil. that is all amuuuurican is good for.


Tell it to the Native Amerians, and the Germans in the two years after WWII. 8)



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17 Aug 2021, 2:56 pm

Pepe wrote:
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The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


OUCH! 8O :mrgreen:

Dang Pepe, You seem to have struck a nerve! :D



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17 Aug 2021, 4:02 pm

President Biden may have made the right decision to withdraw all US soldiers out of Afghanistan,
but it is still a shocking sight to see on the news. 8O


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17 Aug 2021, 5:29 pm

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President Biden may have made the right decision to withdraw all US soldiers out of Afghanistan,
but it is still a shocking sight to see on the news. 8O


Seems to be a double standard as usual. When the US troops were pulled from Iraq and the Kurds were left to fend for themselves Trump was lauded by the right as saving American lives and bringing "home the boys"

Now when Biden does the same thing in Afghanistan he's criticised by the same people.



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17 Aug 2021, 6:27 pm

"And the words of the Prophets , are Written on the Subway walls "
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17 Aug 2021, 7:11 pm

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President Biden may have made the right decision to withdraw all US soldiers out of Afghanistan,
but it is still a shocking sight to see on the news. 8O


It isn't looking as bad for the Afghani people today as it did yesterday.
The Taliban are trying to change their global image.
Cross paws. 8)



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17 Aug 2021, 7:12 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
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VegetableMan wrote:

The only thing your post displays, other than you know to use Google, is that you're a virtue signaler who only pretends to care about human life when it suits your agenda.


OUCH! 8O :mrgreen:

Dang Pepe, You seem to have struck a nerve! :D


But I am laughing on the inside. :mrgreen:



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17 Aug 2021, 7:17 pm

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"And the words of the Prophets , are Written on the Subway walls "
( Sounds of Silence)


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