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LiendaBalla
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09 Apr 2008, 1:43 pm

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Sometimes actually LISTENING to a person with Griff's levels of frustration and anger might lead the preacher element into discussing instead of proselytizing; but, as he described, they don't actually listen, they just preach.


ignorant of the situation. I feel so assulted! Aparently, you think I'm the one that dersevess to be chopped up for doing what your' doing! What a good little sidekick to Griff you are! Look back and look at just who slammed first. GRIFF literaly attacked me! Since when did I attack him? No, logicaly point that out please.

"You lost the battle. blah blah blah!" nonsence. I have TRIED to remain calm, only to get crap, crap, and more crap! "Shut up" isn't unreasonable. Then, naturaly there goes Griff. "Oh those loosers won't listen." :roll: basicaly..

Oh wait, I'm just an object named Lienda to ignore and accuse to death of being a b***h..."Griff's the only one with rights!" Now that's rediculess. Everyone has their points, but that's no excuse to launch name calling. And honestly, Griff diserved to be called egotistical, becasue that's how he's acting. I don't CARE if you like them. The fact that he isn't the only one I asked to stop it!

"Them is fighting words" *feels a fat fist slamming into her face*
And that is a direct insult, and yes that hurt alot.
"If you hate fighting stop fighting" Another thing I don't diserve.

And BTW, this hopefully will be my last posting in this web sight for the next several months, unless you want to continue to label me an ugly person.



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09 Apr 2008, 1:47 pm

Don't take it personally.
I was simply attempting to introduce calm reason back into the discussion.
I failed :silent:



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09 Apr 2008, 1:49 pm

*leaves, feeling clawed up*



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09 Apr 2008, 1:54 pm

Look.... Gays are people just like anyone else. I fail to see the logic in so-called heterosexuals being so caught up on joe and bob's sex life. It just shows how insecure some heterosexuals are with their sexuality.
As a straight man myself, I could give a flying ratt's ass who other people are sleeping with. It has no effect on me or my dad-to-day life. As long as theyr not trying to get down my pants, it's not an issue to me. I've had several gay friends.
As for gay marriage, why not? I mean, even if they called it something other than marriage, as long as they've got the same benefits and the same rules apply, I don't see the big difference here. Personally, I think marriage is an out-dated concept. However, this article isn't about my opinion on marriage. It's about rather gays deserve the same rights as straight people, and I think for the most part, they do.
Now, there may be some question in my mind as to rather they should have the right to raise children together. I'm somewhat up in the air on that one.



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09 Apr 2008, 2:00 pm

Yes, true - these things should not be determined by members of religious groups forcing their own beliefs on others outside of their own sects.

God knows, I do not want to know what Christian conservatives do in their bedrooms, and I certainly don't go poking around into their affairs to find out.

God probably does not want to know either. :D



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09 Apr 2008, 2:00 pm

CityAsylum wrote:
Don't take it personally.
I was simply attempting to introduce calm reason back into the discussion.
I failed :silent:



i think where you went wrong with it was keeping on pushing it. you can't force the peace...just look at iraq.

sometimes you just gotta let it burn out on its own.



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09 Apr 2008, 2:02 pm

Yeah, you are right about that!



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09 Apr 2008, 2:04 pm

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God knows, I do not want to think about what Christian conservatives do in their bedrooms.


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09 Apr 2008, 2:06 pm

:D :D :D



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09 Apr 2008, 2:18 pm

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09 Apr 2008, 2:22 pm

zendell wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
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"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. (Leviticus 20:13, NIV)"

I quoted the passage above to show that homosexual acts are a sin. However, because the passage is written for ancient Israel, I am not obligated to execute homosexuals. I don't think I have to advocate bringing back the death penalty for homosexual offenders either.



prove it.

blah blah blah


like i said, put up or shut up. "everybody does it" is not proof.



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09 Apr 2008, 2:29 pm

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Another problem is child molestation. The Catholic church was compassionate toward "gays" by allowing them to become priests (gay sex is a sin but being attracted to the same sex isn't considered a sin) and it resulted in little boys being molested, raped, and their lives ruined. Liberals always think about the criminal when it comes to compassion but never about their victims. How would you like it if you had a 5 year old son and some homosexual became inflamed with lust and raped him? If you do the research, you will find lots of negatives associated with homosexuality.


You can be homosexual without being a pedophile.



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09 Apr 2008, 2:32 pm

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If you wish to debate a topic, I for one would appreciate it if you could address the fallacies in your opponents' arguments
That's not the point. I just want to shut them up. I'm not keen on the idea of the damned sodomy laws coming back. You can just forget that. I love intellectual discussion as much as the next guy, but keeping the bedroom police from coming back takes priority, you got that?

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Debating with them might or might not change their minds;
Nononono, they don't intend to even CONSIDER changing their minds. Zendell thinks that I personally consult with Satan everytime I say anything here. He's not going to change his mind based upon anything I say.

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screaming invective at them certainly won't, and has the added disadvantage of causing your "side" of the discussion to appear ridiculous to an outside observer.
Outside observers can think what they want to think. I'm not going to live as a prisoner in my own home. I lived through that nightmare when I was a kid, and I'll be damned if I'm going to revisit it as an adult. Just forget it. I'm not going to tolerate it, EVER, under any justification. Forget it. It's not something I'm going to put up with.



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09 Apr 2008, 2:37 pm

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How would you like it if you had a 5 year old son and some homosexual became inflamed with lust and raped him? If you do the research, you will find lots of negatives associated with homosexuality.

This is pure hate speech, just like what has been used against black men, with the 'lust' and the 'what if' crap.

Where in your bible does it say that you personally, zendell, have been appointed to mind everyone's business?

Can't you leave it up to God to dole out justice, or are you smarter than he (or she, or it) is?

The interesting part is that, if you do the research, you'll find lots of negatives associated with Christian conservative behavior - there are at least as many sexual predators, if not more, in your circle, than in the general population.

A lot of predatory behavior comes from sexually repressed people, a common product of fundamentalism - not from people who happen to have been born gay.



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09 Apr 2008, 2:41 pm

DejaQ wrote:
zendell wrote:
Another problem is child molestation. The Catholic church was compassionate toward "gays" by allowing them to become priests (gay sex is a sin but being attracted to the same sex isn't considered a sin) and it resulted in little boys being molested, raped, and their lives ruined. Liberals always think about the criminal when it comes to compassion but never about their victims. How would you like it if you had a 5 year old son and some homosexual became inflamed with lust and raped him? If you do the research, you will find lots of negatives associated with homosexuality.


You can be homosexual without being a pedophile.


in reality, the vast majority aren't pedophiles. and normally the people who do such things aren't even gay. pedophilia attracts more those that desire power over others (and what better job to get such power for free than as a priest?). it's less sexual and more psychological (people who address it as just sexual are only addressing the symptom and not the underlying problem).



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