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23 Jan 2013, 7:30 pm

If you have a feminist who takes birth control pills so that she can have coitus with a dozen different guys during a semester. And, she proclaims "Sex is NOT an entitlement!" Then she would seem to be rubbing it in the face of the pathetic losers who weren't getting any.



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23 Jan 2013, 7:40 pm

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If you have a feminist who takes birth control pills so that she can have coitus with a dozen different guys during a semester. And, she proclaims "Sex is NOT an entitlement!" Then she would seem to be rubbing it in the face of the pathetic losers who weren't getting any.

Arrant, this is a classic example of PROJECTION. Look at it objectively. You know, if you could find a dozen girls who all wanted to have sex with you, you could do the exact same thing. The key is finding the right ones.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:15 pm

Then, I would have my sense of entitlement.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:18 pm

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Then, I would have my sense of entitlement.

Why would you think that? Having a sense of entitlement means you think the world owes you sex. It does not mean you never want to have sex. You can have sex with as many people as you want and still not have a sense of entitlement if you do not believe it is owed, simply experienced by people who crave same as you.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:38 pm

Perhaps we are working off of somewhat different understandings of the term "entitlement?"

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An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation. A "right" is itself an entitlement associated with a moral or social principle, such that an "entitlement" is a provision made in accordance with legal framework of a society. Typically, entitlements are laws based on concepts of principle ("rights") which are themselves based in concepts of social equality or enfranchisement.

In a casual sense, the term "entitlement" refers to a notion or belief that one (or oneself) is deserving of some particular reward or benefit—if given without deeper legal or principled cause, the term is often given with pejorative connotation (e.g. a "sense of entitlement").



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23 Jan 2013, 8:46 pm

So would you want someone entitled to everything you own?



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23 Jan 2013, 8:53 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Perhaps we are working off of somewhat different understandings of the term "entitlement?"

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An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation. A "right" is itself an entitlement associated with a moral or social principle, such that an "entitlement" is a provision made in accordance with legal framework of a society. Typically, entitlements are laws based on concepts of principle ("rights") which are themselves based in concepts of social equality or enfranchisement.

In a casual sense, the term "entitlement" refers to a notion or belief that one (or oneself) is deserving of some particular reward or benefit—if given without deeper legal or principled cause, the term is often given with pejorative connotation (e.g. a "sense of entitlement").


So you think you have a guaranteed access to benefits (sex) based on established rights or by legislation? Haha. Dream on. No one does. I should be able to walk up to any guy and have sex with him if this is the case? It's not going to happen. Arrant. I would be living in a dream world if I believed that!

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So would you want someone entitled to everything you own?


I have a sense of entitlement when it comes to expecting others will not bother me with their bs. I admit to that. I have a sense of entitlement when it comes to the way others act. In other words, I am too intolerant.



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23 Jan 2013, 9:58 pm

In marriage sex is a privilege not a right or entitlement if men marry just for sex they shouldn't get married in the first place. The catch 22 with religions such as christianity and islam is that sex before marriage is forbidden regardless of those natural urges and they get married just for that just they aren't sinning and it leads to unstable marriages.


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23 Jan 2013, 10:06 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
So you think you have a guaranteed access to benefits (sex) based on established rights or by legislation?


So, what is the point of rubbing it in with the slogan "Sex is not an entitlement?" Why don't they just add a "Nyah! Nayh! Nyah!" at the end?

"Sex is not an entitlement! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"



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23 Jan 2013, 10:08 pm

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In marriage sex is a privilege not a right or entitlement if men marry just for sex they shouldn't get married in the first place. The catch 22 with religions such as christianity and islam is that sex before marriage is forbidden regardless of those natural urges and they get married just for that just they aren't sinning and it leads to unstable marriages.

The way I see it is, most people marry with this idea they will be with one person and this person will have sex with them more than they might expect if they would have if they were single. That's one of the perks of the deal. So, people should consider this carefully. If they aren't interested in sex they should make sure the person they are going to marry is not interested too. To pair someone who has a high sex drive with someone who hasn't much of one at all is unfair to both parties. At least it looks that way to me. It's not a matter of marrying just for sex and neither should force themselves on the partner. Basic compatibility should not be overlooked as very important for the relationship to work.



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23 Jan 2013, 10:10 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
So you think you have a guaranteed access to benefits (sex) based on established rights or by legislation?


So, what is the point of rubbing it in with the slogan "Sex is not an entitlement?" Why don't they just add a "Nyah! Nayh! Nyah!" at the end?

"Sex is not an entitlement! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"

I like your sense of humor.



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23 Jan 2013, 10:40 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
In marriage sex is a privilege not a right or entitlement if men marry just for sex they shouldn't get married in the first place. The catch 22 with religions such as christianity and islam is that sex before marriage is forbidden regardless of those natural urges and they get married just for that just they aren't sinning and it leads to unstable marriages.


Impotency is legally grounds for divorce in Illinois. Females can be impotent too but you can't prove it. How can you prove it in males. I wonder what kind of lawsuit brought about this rule.



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24 Jan 2013, 5:17 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
In marriage sex is a privilege not a right or entitlement if men marry just for sex they shouldn't get married in the first place. The catch 22 with religions such as christianity and islam is that sex before marriage is forbidden regardless of those natural urges and they get married just for that just they aren't sinning and it leads to unstable marriages.

The way I see it is, most people marry with this idea they will be with one person and this person will have sex with them more than they might expect if they would have if they were single. That's one of the perks of the deal. So, people should consider this carefully. If they aren't interested in sex they should make sure the person they are going to marry is not interested too. To pair someone who has a high sex drive with someone who hasn't much of one at all is unfair to both parties. At least it looks that way to me. It's not a matter of marrying just for sex and neither should force themselves on the partner. Basic compatibility should not be overlooked as very important for the relationship to work.
If I ever get married Ill make sure we are both equally compatable I do have a fairly high libido but I would want my mate to feel comfortable as well.


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24 Jan 2013, 12:28 pm

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The feminist who sees where his eyes are going wags her finger at him, scowls, and says "You're not entitled, Buster!"

I don't think that's a proper analogy. It's just rude behaviour on the part of the husband, both to the one being observed and to the wife whose probably not interested in her husband's wandering thoughts.


We're entitled to look, aren't we? Otherwise, why do women dress sexy? Just for the sake of getting old men in trouble with their wives and other Feminists?

If women are entitled to dress sexy, then we should at least be entitled to look.



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24 Jan 2013, 12:40 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Ann2011 wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
The feminist who sees where his eyes are going wags her finger at him, scowls, and says "You're not entitled, Buster!"

I don't think that's a proper analogy. It's just rude behaviour on the part of the husband, both to the one being observed and to the wife whose probably not interested in her husband's wandering thoughts.


We're entitled to look, aren't we? Otherwise, why do women dress sexy? Just for the sake of getting old men in trouble with their wives and other Feminists?

If women are entitled to dress sexy, then we should at least be entitled to look.

i wouldn't disrespect my boyfriend by checking out a man that walked by or something. it wouldn't matter how he was dressed. it isn't every person that stares at other people when in the company of their mate, so it's definitely not an uncontrollable instinct. so i'd question why a person would choose to be disrespectful instead of thinking of their partner's feelings. there are plenty of times when alone that a person could do all the looking that they want, so it seems unnecessary to hurt someone's feelings just to get a good look.


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24 Jan 2013, 12:41 pm

Even if there were such a thing as a universe where sex is an entitlement then it would be logical to conclude that love would also be an entitlement. In that universe if you were to use someone purely for your own sexual gratification without any love involved then it would be logical to conclude that a person could feel violated.