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ArrantPariah
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10 Aug 2013, 1:26 pm

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What are Men for?

It appears we excel at farting and burping.

I found some evidence to suggest that girls are perfectly capable.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK4XyyawsuI[/youtube]

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10 Aug 2013, 2:46 pm

I was sooooo worried us gals couldn't keep up, Arrant, thank you for that! I no longer have to worry.

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10 Aug 2013, 7:23 pm

Greb wrote:

LKL wrote:

Greb wrote:

Tiranasta wrote:

Greb wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

"A voice for men is a rape apologist site" is not an extraordinary claim.

http://manboobz.com/2013/07/12/the-dont ... -apologia/

Where's the apology there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics

Elaborate.

unnecessary. You apparently are unaware of the definition of 'apologetics,' he gave you a definition for you edification.

And you're apparently unaware that linking to an article of wikipedia is not an argument.

Thank you. I'm very aware of what apologetics means. What is expected from you in a debate is to argument why this campaign that you have stated as apology, is apology. That's called 'argument'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument

^perfect example of what I meant by 'you are neither intellectual, nor dueling.'
Dude, he wasn't making an argument. He was defining a word that you have demonstrated that you did not understand.
FYI, 'apologizing' and 'employing apologetics' are not the same thing. Talking about 'apology' or 'apologies' just reemphasizes that you don't know what 'apologetics' means.

As far as wikipedia, no, it's not an argument; it is, however, often a good starting place to direct an opponent when they clearly don't know what the hell they're talking about (which statement you clearly agree with, based on your attempt to imply, above that I don't know what 'argument' means).

Also? remember that you are arguing with more than one person. Also? A logical argument, and a regular internet argument, are not often the same thing.

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10 Aug 2013, 8:12 pm

LKL wrote:

Greb wrote:

LKL wrote:

Greb wrote:

Tiranasta wrote:

Greb wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

"A voice for men is a rape apologist site" is not an extraordinary claim.

http://manboobz.com/2013/07/12/the-dont ... -apologia/

Where's the apology there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics

Elaborate.

unnecessary. You apparently are unaware of the definition of 'apologetics,' he gave you a definition for you edification.

And you're apparently unaware that linking to an article of wikipedia is not an argument.

Thank you. I'm very aware of what apologetics means. What is expected from you in a debate is to argument why this campaign that you have stated as apology, is apology. That's called 'argument'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument

^perfect example of what I meant by 'you are neither intellectual, nor dueling.'
Dude, he wasn't making an argument. He was defining a word that you have demonstrated that you did not understand.
FYI, 'apologizing' and 'employing apologetics' are not the same thing. Talking about 'apology' or 'apologies' just reemphasizes that you don't know what 'apologetics' means.

As far as wikipedia, no, it's not an argument; it is, however, often a good starting place to direct an opponent when they clearly don't know what the hell they're talking about (which statement you clearly agree with, based on your attempt to imply, above that I don't know what 'argument' means).

Also? remember that you are arguing with more than one person. Also? A logical argument, and a regular internet argument, are not often the same thing.

Well, clearly.

You (or whoever) stated that this webpage was apology of rape. I asked why the content of this page should be considered this way. I got as answer a link to the wikipedia. I specified that I didn't need a link to the wikipedia's definition of apology, what I had asked was an argument or a logical reasoning justifying the statement about this webpage having to be considered as apology of rape.

And now you answer that what you gave was not an argument but a definition.

Really?

So I repete it again: statements are supported by arguments, not by definitions. You (or whoever) has made a statement. It's up to you (or to whoever) to argue to support this statement. Until then, it's a bold statement and a libel.

So I leave up to you to decide support it with some argument or not to do. I'm not gonna ask for it again. I'm just gonna leave this clear: in case you don't do it (up to you), what you (or whoever) have said, and in any case what you're defending, is difamatory and libellous.

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10 Aug 2013, 8:47 pm

No.
He stated that it was a rape apologist site. Two different things. Which is what we have been trying to explain to you.

APOLOGY =/= APOLOGIST.

Do you get it now?
Maybe, once you get your definitions straight, we can move on to whether the linked webpage is actually rape apologetics, because no one ever said that it was a rape apology. OK?

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10 Aug 2013, 10:32 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

I was sooooo worried us gals couldn't keep up, Arrant, thank you for that! I no longer have to worry.

I'm thinking that the absolutely delightful shape of the female bottom could actually help to make your farts more resonant and sonorous than ours.

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10 Aug 2013, 10:40 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

I was sooooo worried us gals couldn't keep up, Arrant, thank you for that! I no longer have to worry.

I'm thinking that the absolutely delightful shape of the female bottom could actually help to make your farts more resonant and sonorous than ours.

Like this?

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10 Aug 2013, 11:05 pm

Raptor, what does posting an image of grossly obese women do for your argument, your ego, or your funny bone? Do you think that men do not reach that condition as well? Do you think that people reach that condition- to that degree - by choice?

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10 Aug 2013, 11:18 pm

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Raptor, what does posting an image of grossly obese women do for your argument, your ego, or your funny bone? Do you think that men do not reach that condition as well? Do you think that people reach that condition- to that degree - by choice?

:roll:

:roll:

Read what it's in response to, why doncha...
The entire thread is pointless.

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10 Aug 2013, 11:45 pm

Raptor wrote:

LKL wrote:

Raptor, what does posting an image of grossly obese women do for your argument, your ego, or your funny bone? Do you think that men do not reach that condition as well? Do you think that people reach that condition- to that degree - by choice?

:roll:

:roll:

Read what it's in response to, why doncha...
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There's no real reason to delve into things when it is time for a woman to chastise a man. :wink:

:wink:

That is one of the main functions of a man--something to snap at every now and again.

But, yeah, I would really love to hear those ladies pass some gas. I'll bet they could produce a symphony.

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11 Aug 2013, 12:09 am

Raptor wrote:

LKL wrote:

Raptor, what does posting an image of grossly obese women do for your argument, your ego, or your funny bone? Do you think that men do not reach that condition as well? Do you think that people reach that condition- to that degree - by choice?

:roll:

:roll:

Read what it's in response to, why doncha...
The entire thread is pointless.

yeah, I did. It was a lame attempt at humor; is your picture also an attempt at humor? Maybe it's just too British for me, since a lot of British humor seems to be about mocking people who are in humiliating situations or conditions that they can't help.

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11 Aug 2013, 12:46 am

ArrantPariah wrote:

Raptor wrote:

LKL wrote:

Raptor, what does posting an image of grossly obese women do for your argument, your ego, or your funny bone? Do you think that men do not reach that condition as well? Do you think that people reach that condition- to that degree - by choice?

:roll:

:roll:

Read what it's in response to, why doncha...
.

There's no real reason to delve into things when it is time for a woman to chastise a man. :wink:

:wink:

That is one of the main functions of a man--something to snap at every now and again.

But, yeah, I would really love to hear those ladies pass some gas. I'll bet they could produce a symphony.

:roll:

Uh huh, maybe for you but I'm not a submissive man.

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11 Aug 2013, 1:00 am

LKL wrote:

Raptor wrote:

LKL wrote:

Raptor, what does posting an image of grossly obese women do for your argument, your ego, or your funny bone? Do you think that men do not reach that condition as well? Do you think that people reach that condition- to that degree - by choice?

:roll:

:roll:

Read what it's in response to, why doncha...
The entire thread is pointless.

yeah, I did. It was a lame attempt at humor; is your picture also an attempt at humor?

What do you think?

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Maybe it's just too British for me,

I didnt think it was British, but for what it's worth I do have an appreciation for British humor.

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since a lot of British humor seems to be about mocking people who are in humiliating situations or conditions that they can't help.

It should be apparent that those two are posing for the camera, knowing that they are horrendously fat.
Also, it stands to reason that they are aware that any image of them could very well end up laughing stock on the internet.
Really, if you were that fat would you be dressed like that outside and/or in front of others?

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11 Aug 2013, 1:12 am

The people I see in the hospital, who are that obese, can generally barely walk and are universally nearly destitute. I think that if someone offered them a hundred bucks for a humiliating photo, most of them would have little choice but to take it.

Given that 'the internet' hasn't been available to the public at large for more than a decade or two, it's entirely possible that the photo was taken years ago and then scanned in; it's entirely possible that the women in question didn't even know what 'the internet' was at the time that the photo was taken.

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11 Aug 2013, 4:48 am

LKL wrote:

No.
He stated that it was a rape apologist site. Two different things. Which is what we have been trying to explain to you.

APOLOGY =/= APOLOGIST.

Do you get it now?
Maybe, once you get your definitions straight, we can move on to whether the linked webpage is actually rape apologetics, because no one ever said that it was a rape apology. OK?

Website or webpage, I don't care. Being apologist or doing apology, I don't care. It keeps being a serious accusation. You state, you prove. He states and you get into the debate, then you prove or don't come to waste my time.

What I'm asking is arguments. If you're getting around the differences between apologetics, apology, apologist, rapist, rape or whatever you want, you're wasting my time. Any of them is difamatory. Any of them is a libel. If you, or he, state a serious accustation.

Accusing of rape apologetics WITHOUT supporting it with arguments is a libel.

So, to make it clear: you're a libeller.

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11 Aug 2013, 6:16 am

LKL wrote:

Raptor, what does posting an image of grossly obese women do for your argument, your ego, or your funny bone?

You never know, it might made a certain appendage tumescent...

There are loads of guys out there that like SSBBWs...

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