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22 Feb 2015, 4:46 am

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For one thing, I am stating my personal opinion about nutbars who believe that gun rights supersede the rights of all others. Another, I think I've already provided examples of gun fetishists when I had mentioned the assh*les who demeaned the grieving parents at Sandy hook, while trying to explain the situation away with the most inane conspiracy theories. Those are gun fetishists. I happened to have brought up the topic of gun fetishists in order to demonstrate that you get all butthurt for gun rights whenever anyone makes mention of lunatics who have no business with guns, whether it actually applies to you or not.
And as far as your other post is concerned - No, I do not know it.


So, you're trying to troll people by intentionally using an inflammatory term; nice.

I mean, you've already conceded that you nothing about guns, so we can safely disregard your opinion on the subject, as we can on most things you post about, but just out of curiosity, what rights of others do you think are being superseded by gun rights? Try to stick to enumerated rights and not BS you've pulled out of your ass, I'm getting tired of that.


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22 Feb 2015, 4:50 am

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You don't impress me. I came here to defend Bill, not me.

I'm just playing with you.

Get IT.


So, you admit that you're essentially trying to troll me while defending Bill; good thing you suck at both, and I don't mean just mild incompetence, I mean you're both worse off for your intervention than if you'd kept your mouth shut.


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22 Feb 2015, 4:53 am

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You don't impress me. I came here to defend Bill, not me.

I'm just playing with you.

Get IT.


So, you admit that you're essentially trying to troll me while defending Bill; good thing you suck at both, and I don't mean just mild incompetence, I mean you're both worse off for your intervention than if you'd kept your mouth shut.


NO, like I said before, I do not like bullies, physical or so-called intellectual bullies.

And you are breaking the rules by personally attacking Bill by calling him a liar wHere tHere is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF THAT HERE THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED.

Don't break the rules anymore and I'll go away.

It's as simple as that.

I am SIMPLY playing YOUR game.

It's not hard.


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22 Feb 2015, 5:00 am

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Aghogday-

I appreciate the gesture, but I doubt I'll get an apology from Dox, anymore than we could get the earth to reverse rotation. :lol:
By the way, that leg press was pretty damn impressive! :)


I'll apologize when I say something that requires one, calling you and CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK out on your respective BS is a public service, especially considering the level of obtuse I've had to deal with to do it.

Does it not concern you at all that your white knight is an internet tough guy who compares himself to Jesus, Buddha, and Superman? No red flags at all?


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22 Feb 2015, 5:11 am

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NO, like I said before, I do not like bullies, physical or so-called intellectual bullies.


Funny, I don't like liars and hypocrites, who could also easily avoid my attentions by avoiding said behaviors, but they never seem to learn.

Also, again, ironic coming from the most condescending and over the top ITG on WP.

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And you are breaking the rules by personally attacking Bill by calling him a liar wHere tHere is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF THAT HERE THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED.

Don't break the rules anymore and I'll go away.

It's as simple as that.


Are you a moderator? If not, and you think I've broken the rules, report me, and I'll demonstrate the factual basis of my claims to the mods, you've proven yourself unhinged and irrational over a long period of time, and I don't particularly feel like wasting more of my time on your brand of crazy, I mean you discredit yourself with every post, so giving you anything feels pointless at this point.

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I am SIMPLY playing YOUR game.

It's not hard.


Pray tell, what is my game?


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22 Feb 2015, 5:12 am

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Aghogday-

I appreciate the gesture, but I doubt I'll get an apology from Dox, anymore than we could get the earth to reverse rotation. :lol:
By the way, that leg press was pretty damn impressive! :)


I'll apologize when I say something that requires one, calling you and CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK out on your respective BS is a public service, especially considering the level of obtuse I've had to deal with to do it.

Does it not concern you at all that your white knight is an internet tough guy who compares himself to Jesus, Buddha, and Superman? No red flags at all?


You are speaking a mistruth again.

I HAVE NEVER EVER COMPARED MYSELF TO JESUS OR BUDDHA.

OTHER FOLKS HAVE DONE THAT, AS I CLEARY STATED.

AND AS I CLEARLY STATED, QUOTES AND LINKS FROM HERE AVAILABLE FOR EVIDENCE.

And yes, I've compared myself to the Nietzsche ideology in regard to a Superman and other have too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubermensch

But not the frigging man of Steele, get real...;)


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22 Feb 2015, 5:15 am

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aghogday wrote:
NO, like I said before, I do not like bullies, physical or so-called intellectual bullies.


Funny, I don't like liars and hypocrites, who could also easily avoid my attentions by avoiding said behaviors, but they never seem to learn.

Also, again, ironic coming from the most condescending and over the top ITG on WP.

aghogday wrote:
And you are breaking the rules by personally attacking Bill by calling him a liar wHere tHere is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF THAT HERE THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED.

Don't break the rules anymore and I'll go away.

It's as simple as that.


Are you a moderator? If not, and you think I've broken the rules, report me, and I'll demonstrate the factual basis of my claims to the mods, you've proven yourself unhinged and irrational over a long period of time, and I don't particularly feel like wasting more of my time on your brand of crazy, I mean you discredit yourself with every post, so giving you anything feels pointless at this point.

aghogday wrote:
I am SIMPLY playing YOUR game.

It's not hard.


Pray tell, what is my game?


Like I said, not here to defend me, here to defend Bill.

And I do not need help to do that.


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22 Feb 2015, 11:31 am

Dox-

Seriously, do you even have Asperger's? You look at the rest of us, and tells us from reading our posts from when our blood is up, that we must have problems beyond high functioning autism. Well guess what, our quirkiness, and anything that you pick out of our posts that you find odd or disturbing ARE symptoms of Asperger's! I have to think that you are pretty close to being an NT.
And yes, I admit I don't know much about guns, but I do know something about the various political "tribes," and that gun fetishists out there are irrational and out and out cruel when it comes to their gun rights. And no, I am not calling ordinary gun owners like you gun fetishists.
As far as "house rules" are concerned: but it is a simple, black and white issue. Refusing to serve someone in a business open to the public, because they belong to a group that is hated, is wrong. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You're looking at this from the perspective of a business owner. I'm looking at it from the perspective of social oppression.


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22 Feb 2015, 1:36 pm

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Dox-

Seriously, do you even have Asperger's? You look at the rest of us, and tells us from reading our posts from when our blood is up, that we must have problems beyond high functioning autism. Well guess what, our quirkiness, and anything that you pick out of our posts that you find odd or disturbing ARE symptoms of Asperger's! I have to think that you are pretty close to being an NT.
And yes, I admit I don't know much about guns, but I do know something about the various political "tribes," and that gun fetishists out there are irrational and out and out cruel when it comes to their gun rights. And no, I am not calling ordinary gun owners like you gun fetishists.
As far as "house rules" are concerned: but it is a simple, black and white issue. Refusing to serve someone in a business open to the public, because they belong to a group that is hated, is wrong. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You're looking at this from the perspective of a business owner. I'm looking at it from the perspective of social oppression.


1. Since when is being intentionally obtuse and intellectually dishonest symptomatucof Asperger's syndrome.

2. If the best you can do is to accuse someone of faking Asperger's because they disagree with you does not say anything very flattering about you....


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22 Feb 2015, 4:07 pm

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Dox-

Seriously, do you even have Asperger's?


I just have to point out that you just violated something called Dunc's Law, which is similar to Godwin's Law, except that it concerns questioning the diagnosis of someone on the spectrum instead of making a Hitler comparison, just FYI.

To answer you question, yes, I do, I'm just very high functioning and well adapted compared to most other Aspies, likely due to being smart and having a very good memory, which I'm not going to go too much into as I don't want to sound like a certain braggart that hangs out around here. I also "benefited" from a late diagnosis, as I wasn't "accommodated" in any way growing up, and so being a clever sort, found ways to adapt to my environment and developed an unusual amount of self awareness in order to see what I was doing wrong socially, which has helped me tremendously in life. Though I don't socialize naturally the way most NTs can, I understand the underlying dynamics better, as I had to actually learn to recognize them, rather than simply instinctively reacting without thinking about it.

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You look at the rest of us, and tells us from reading our posts from when our blood is up, that we must have problems beyond high functioning autism. Well guess what, our quirkiness, and anything that you pick out of our posts that you find odd or disturbing ARE symptoms of Asperger's!


Is ignorance a symptom of Aspergers? How about hypocrisy? Poor reading comprehension? Fallacious reasoning? Notice that yet again you're attacking me for something I don't and have never done, as I'll hammer someone on bad reasoning or logical fallacies, broad brushing large groups with pejoratives, acting as if they're psychic concerning the motivations of others, etc, but never for "quirkiness" or general Aspieness, unless you think being bad at arguing is also a symptom. Really, you just keep proving me right for calling you dishonest every time you make one of these, eh, 'factually challenged' attacks on me.

These are also the same things I target when arguing with non-Aspies on other forums, so your reasoning falls down there as well.

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I have to think that you are pretty close to being an NT.


I am high functioning, what does that have to do with anything?

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And yes, I admit I don't know much about guns, but I do know something about the various political "tribes," and that gun fetishists out there are irrational and out and out cruel when it comes to their gun rights. And no, I am not calling ordinary gun owners like you gun fetishists


So you don't hate black people, you just hate n****rs, and can't understand why the good black people get upset when you use that term?

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As far as "house rules" are concerned: but it is a simple, black and white issue. Refusing to serve someone in a business open to the public, because they belong to a group that is hated, is wrong. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You're looking at this from the perspective of a business owner. I'm looking at it from the perspective of social oppression.


You say something is wrong without actually arguing for why, you just think your opinion is so self evidently correct that it doesn't require argument, and that is a problem. Personally, I think a property owner should be able to do virtually whatever they want on their own property so long as they're willing to assume liability; when you start injecting subjective morality into it, then you put yourself at the mercy of whoever happens to be in power at the time.

Really though, this is pretty low, attacking my DX is totally uncalled for.


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22 Feb 2015, 5:40 pm

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Dox-

Seriously, do you even have Asperger's?


I just have to point out that you just violated something called Dunc's Law, which is similar to Godwin's Law, except that it concerns questioning the diagnosis of someone on the spectrum instead of making a Hitler comparison, just FYI.

To answer you question, yes, I do, I'm just very high functioning and well adapted compared to most other Aspies, likely due to being smart and having a very good memory, which I'm not going to go too much into as I don't want to sound like a certain braggart that hangs out around here. I also "benefited" from a late diagnosis, as I wasn't "accommodated" in any way growing up, and so being a clever sort, found ways to adapt to my environment and developed an unusual amount of self awareness in order to see what I was doing wrong socially, which has helped me tremendously in life. Though I don't socialize naturally the way most NTs can, I understand the underlying dynamics better, as I had to actually learn to recognize them, rather than simply instinctively reacting without thinking about it.

Kraichgauer wrote:
You look at the rest of us, and tells us from reading our posts from when our blood is up, that we must have problems beyond high functioning autism. Well guess what, our quirkiness, and anything that you pick out of our posts that you find odd or disturbing ARE symptoms of Asperger's!


Is ignorance a symptom of Aspergers? How about hypocrisy? Poor reading comprehension? Fallacious reasoning? Notice that yet again you're attacking me for something I don't and have never done, as I'll hammer someone on bad reasoning or logical fallacies, broad brushing large groups with pejoratives, acting as if they're psychic concerning the motivations of others, etc, but never for "quirkiness" or general Aspieness, unless you think being bad at arguing is also a symptom. Really, you just keep proving me right for calling you dishonest every time you make one of these, eh, 'factually challenged' attacks on me.

These are also the same things I target when arguing with non-Aspies on other forums, so your reasoning falls down there as well.

Kraichgauer wrote:
I have to think that you are pretty close to being an NT.


I am high functioning, what does that have to do with anything?

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And yes, I admit I don't know much about guns, but I do know something about the various political "tribes," and that gun fetishists out there are irrational and out and out cruel when it comes to their gun rights. And no, I am not calling ordinary gun owners like you gun fetishists


So you don't hate black people, you just hate n****rs, and can't understand why the good black people get upset when you use that term?

Kraichgauer wrote:
As far as "house rules" are concerned: but it is a simple, black and white issue. Refusing to serve someone in a business open to the public, because they belong to a group that is hated, is wrong. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You're looking at this from the perspective of a business owner. I'm looking at it from the perspective of social oppression.


You say something is wrong without actually arguing for why, you just think your opinion is so self evidently correct that it doesn't require argument, and that is a problem. Personally, I think a property owner should be able to do virtually whatever they want on their own property so long as they're willing to assume liability; when you start injecting subjective morality into it, then you put yourself at the mercy of whoever happens to be in power at the time.

Really though, this is pretty low, attacking my DX is totally uncalled for.


Perhaps calling your Asperger's into question is uncalled for, but then again, you called me a liar; that's the bigger insult in my book. And your questioning me about the use of the N word as an example comparable to my dislike of gun fetishists obviously was meant to rile me up. That, too, is uncalled for.
And as a matter of fact, I have explained again and again what I dislike about gun fetishists to the point that I'm not going to exert the extra energy to give the same answer for the hundredth time.
And no, just because you own a business doesn't mean you can do anything you want in it; not when you violate the law. Since the Civil Rights Act and other pieces of legislation, business owners may not discriminate against anyone due to race. Since then, sexuality is now a reason why customers can't be turned away. Do you honestly think an owner of a restaurant can put ground up glass in his food and get away with it, just because "house rules" permits him to? Of course not, since murdering people with broken glass is clearly against the law under any circumstances. Or do you think the idiot market will weed out restaurateurs who put ground glass in their food? In regard to civil rights applying to private business, what you libertarians and conservatives fail to grasp - knowingly or unknowingly - is that such businesses form centers of reactionary resistance against the rights of minorities. That is the one and only reason why any business would exclude gays, blacks, Muslims, etc from service. You talk about the rights of business owners being violated, but what about the rights of customers? Why do you think ending segregation in private business was so important to the civil rights movement?


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22 Feb 2015, 5:43 pm

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Dox-

Seriously, do you even have Asperger's? You look at the rest of us, and tells us from reading our posts from when our blood is up, that we must have problems beyond high functioning autism. Well guess what, our quirkiness, and anything that you pick out of our posts that you find odd or disturbing ARE symptoms of Asperger's! I have to think that you are pretty close to being an NT.
And yes, I admit I don't know much about guns, but I do know something about the various political "tribes," and that gun fetishists out there are irrational and out and out cruel when it comes to their gun rights. And no, I am not calling ordinary gun owners like you gun fetishists.
As far as "house rules" are concerned: but it is a simple, black and white issue. Refusing to serve someone in a business open to the public, because they belong to a group that is hated, is wrong. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You're looking at this from the perspective of a business owner. I'm looking at it from the perspective of social oppression.


1. Since when is being intentionally obtuse and intellectually dishonest symptomatucof Asperger's syndrome.

2. If the best you can do is to accuse someone of faking Asperger's because they disagree with you does not say
anything very flattering about you....


Well, don't accuse me of lying anymore, then I won't question his or your Asperger's.


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22 Feb 2015, 8:24 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox-

Seriously, do you even have Asperger's? You look at the rest of us, and tells us from reading our posts from when our blood is up, that we must have problems beyond high functioning autism. Well guess what, our quirkiness, and anything that you pick out of our posts that you find odd or disturbing ARE symptoms of Asperger's! I have to think that you are pretty close to being an NT.
And yes, I admit I don't know much about guns, but I do know something about the various political "tribes," and that gun fetishists out there are irrational and out and out cruel when it comes to their gun rights. And no, I am not calling ordinary gun owners like you gun fetishists.
As far as "house rules" are concerned: but it is a simple, black and white issue. Refusing to serve someone in a business open to the public, because they belong to a group that is hated, is wrong. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You're looking at this from the perspective of a business owner. I'm looking at it from the perspective of social oppression.


1. Since when is being intentionally obtuse and intellectually dishonest symptomatucof Asperger's syndrome.

2. If the best you can do is to accuse someone of faking Asperger's because they disagree with you does not say
anything very flattering about you....


Well, don't accuse me of lying anymore, then I won't question his or your Asperger's.


I don't believe I called you a liar.
But I did accuse you of being deliberately obtuse and intellectually dishonest. Are you going to try and tell me you're not?
Intellectual dishonesty is a failure to apply standards of rational evaluation that one is aware of, usually in a self-serving fashion.


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22 Feb 2015, 8:39 pm

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Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox-

Seriously, do you even have Asperger's? You look at the rest of us, and tells us from reading our posts from when our blood is up, that we must have problems beyond high functioning autism. Well guess what, our quirkiness, and anything that you pick out of our posts that you find odd or disturbing ARE symptoms of Asperger's! I have to think that you are pretty close to being an NT.
And yes, I admit I don't know much about guns, but I do know something about the various political "tribes," and that gun fetishists out there are irrational and out and out cruel when it comes to their gun rights. And no, I am not calling ordinary gun owners like you gun fetishists.
As far as "house rules" are concerned: but it is a simple, black and white issue. Refusing to serve someone in a business open to the public, because they belong to a group that is hated, is wrong. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You're looking at this from the perspective of a business owner. I'm looking at it from the perspective of social oppression.


1. Since when is being intentionally obtuse and intellectually dishonest symptomatucof Asperger's syndrome.

2. If the best you can do is to accuse someone of faking Asperger's because they disagree with you does not say
anything very flattering about you....


Well, don't accuse me of lying anymore, then I won't question his or your Asperger's.


I don't believe I called you a liar.
But I did accuse you of being deliberately obtuse and intellectually dishonest. Are you going to try and tell me you're not?
Intellectual dishonesty is a failure to apply standards of rational evaluation that one is aware of, usually in a self-serving fashion.


Your BBF Dox did. I tend to associate the two of you with one another, as you're constantly defending one another in your mutual admiration society.


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This thread has degenerated into personal attacks.

If I were a mod, I'd lock it.


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22 Feb 2015, 9:10 pm

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Perhaps calling your Asperger's into question is uncalled for, but then again, you called me a liar; that's the bigger insult in my book.


See Bill, the difference is that when I call you dishonest, I'm making an accurate observation that I can back up using your own words, Hell, that you have proven repeatedly in this very thread, where as you're questioning my DX out of pique, because you're mad that I called you out on your misrepresentations and want to "get back" at me. Do you really not see the difference between a fact based allegation supported by evidence and a malicious personal attack spun out of whole cloth?

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And your questioning me about the use of the N word as an example comparable to my dislike of gun fetishists obviously was meant to rile me up. That, too, is uncalled for.


It was meant to get you to see why your repeated use of a pejorative term would annoy people who fit into a similar category, despite your repeated attempts to spin it, much like minorities aren't likely to give you a pass for using slurs around them even if you explained that you weren't talking about them, but those other people.

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And as a matter of fact, I have explained again and again what I dislike about gun fetishists to the point that I'm not going to exert the extra energy to give the same answer for the hundredth time.


Actually, beyond mass shooting truthers, who are basically a negligible presence, you really haven't.

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And no, just because you own a business doesn't mean you can do anything you want in it; not when you violate the law. Since the Civil Rights Act and other pieces of legislation, business owners may not discriminate against anyone due to race. Since then, sexuality is now a reason why customers can't be turned away.


Irrelevant, were weren't talking about what is and is not legal, lots of immoral things are legal, lots of moral things aren't, but about whether the law is good or not; I explain why I hold my opinions using logic and reason, while you simply make moral appeals and drop the mike.

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Do you honestly think an owner of a restaurant can put ground up glass in his food and get away with it, just because "house rules" permits him to? Of course not, since murdering people with broken glass is clearly against the law under any circumstances. Or do you think the idiot market will weed out restaurateurs who put ground glass in their food?


You really don't understand anything about my position, despite my having explained it to you repeatedly over the years, do you? Murder isn't a property rights issue, try again.

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In regard to civil rights applying to private business, what you libertarians and conservatives fail to grasp - knowingly or unknowingly - is that such businesses form centers of reactionary resistance against the rights of minorities. That is the one and only reason why any business would exclude gays, blacks, Muslims, etc from service. You talk about the rights of business owners being violated, but what about the rights of customers? Why do you think ending segregation in private business was so important to the civil rights movement?


Bill, the things you fail to grasp would sink a battleship, including everything about conservative and libertarian ideas. I've, again, explained this to you repeatedly, and you don't simply argue with me and disagree, you just restate your own position over and over, having failed to understand any of the very basic concepts I'm conveying, and often engaging points I have not in fact even made, a dishonest tactic known as straw man arguing. I'm being harsh here, but I'm also being honest, I'm not hitting you over any particular disagreement but over the way you conduct yourself here, which is not something you should be proud of.


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