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Would you date a feminist?
Yes 37%  37%  [ 55 ]
No 36%  36%  [ 53 ]
Ima girl 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Ima girl and still yes 19%  19%  [ 29 ]
I'm a feminist and I am offended by this thread 6%  6%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 149

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01 Apr 2016, 9:27 am

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Where is the 'I'm a feminist and I'm NOT offended by this thread' option? Meh. :|

The poll dosn't comply with "comprehensive and exclusive".



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01 Apr 2016, 1:22 pm

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Kraftie, I don't think that's uncommon, particularly in our generation.

TBH I'd rather pay someone then have a resentful and bitter wife if she's not fine with that kind of stuff. I'd hate it if someone would expect it from me, that's for sure :lol:


That is where the personal choice comes in. I myself wouldn't be too bothered with staying home and having the job of cleaning and what not...but I shouldn't be expected to do that because I'm the female. I also have no obligation to fit the mold of the super independent full time working female who doesn't need no one because rawwwr!

Though the main reason I'm not employed is being on disability, however I have been doing gradually better and actually trying to get into part time work at least as I know eventually I wont qualify for the disability anymore. Neither one of us can afford to be entirely responsible for all the finances so we'll both probably need jobs realistically at least for a time.


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01 Apr 2016, 1:30 pm

^ Sweetleaf, this is what *all* guys who depend financially on their gfs/wives would keep hearing *all* the time; and possibly even from their partners, luckily your partner doesn't do that - so count yourself blessed.

What you are going through is a side effect of equality, which I don't see it a bad thing.

Ideally it should be no one else business whether you are a stay at home woman or man... but... this is progress, it means that your society sees the working woman as the default model of woman and puts pressure on those ones who are jobless in order to work, men had this pressure maybe since the dawn of civilization.

Society doesn't tolerate men with AS either on that, because aspies look like normal people.



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01 Apr 2016, 2:50 pm

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Sometimes wives lead husbands (or having the upper hand) without even knowing it - sometimes the opposite.

The natural reaction would be "no I don't do that!".

What witburfoce is talking about is an ideal egalitarian relationship, for that to happen both should be earning their own money, both should be having close to near capabilities.
While AR and kraftie are talking about more common models: specific roles.

Correct me If I am mistaken cathylynn, but aren't you a housewife? Or are you a working partner?


my husband and i both worked outside the home for most of our marriage. now he's retired and i'm in school. after i finish school, i'll be working and he'll be the househusband.



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04 Apr 2016, 2:00 am

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So I see a trend among male respondents here: Yes for normal feminists, NO for radical whining hypocrite radical feminists.

That should indicate something, no?

Yes, dating a non-hypocrite radical feminist wouldn't be that bad. Such woman would have to believe in a reversed stereotypical gender roles. She would always pay for the dinner, drive you everywhere, pay full rent, open you doors, defend you from muggers. :D



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04 Apr 2016, 11:43 am

314pe wrote:
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So I see a trend among male respondents here: Yes for normal feminists, NO for radical whining hypocrite radical feminists.

That should indicate something, no?

Yes, dating a non-hypocrite radical feminist wouldn't be that bad. Such woman would have to believe in a reversed stereotypical gender roles. She would always pay for the dinner, drive you everywhere, pay full rent, open you doors, defend you from muggers. :D

So, she'd be Ronda Rousey?



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04 Apr 2016, 12:40 pm

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I don't agree that overall being male gets you an easier ride in life than being a woman.




How so? I mean in many parts of the world this is VERY true. But what evidence do you have that this is still true in western countries?
FYI: The pressure on females not to have sex is pretty much a thing of the past here in the west. It started in the 1960s with the sexual revolution. But in the mid to late 90s that pressure rapidly dissipated. Now women can enjoy sex without being chastised for it but men are still under pressure to get a girlfriend.



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04 Apr 2016, 9:35 pm

The answer is no, because of the fact shell always try to shame me for being male, be controlling and dictate how I should live and try to take control of my life! She would expect me to be a door mat and walk all over me and if I refuse I am a misogynist! She will beat me and take advantage of the fact I cannot hit back and be little me wherever I go! She will emasculate me 24/7 as a means to make her feel empowered and take advantage and control me more!


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04 Apr 2016, 9:48 pm

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The answer is no, because of the fact shell always try to shame me for being male, be controlling and dictate how I should live and try to take control of my life! She would expect me to be a door mat and walk all over me and if I refuse I am a misogynist! She will beat me and take advantage of the fact I cannot hit back and be little me wherever I go! She will emasculate me 24/7 as a means to make her feel empowered and take advantage and control me more!


NO, AspieOtaku! Those are only the 'extremists' and don't apply at all to the vast majority of feminist's, even though you may have formed this opinion of feminist's as the majority you've dated, met or spoken to in your experiences, turned out to be this way.

Like they say about extremists - they are a 'loud minority' that make the rest look bad.

Well, there must be a lot of feminist's in this world, as this 'loud minority' actually seems to be quite large in size, and unusually loud considering most of their ideals are some of the key ideals of mainstream Feminism.

We could say women such as Emma Watson, who started the 'HeforShe' campaign, a Feminist campaign focusing on men starting to treat women properly and with respect (while not asking the same of women), are also a 'loud minority', even though it's a campaign known world-wide and was founded by UN Women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Women

I guess all the thousands, possibly millions, of supporters are, of course, the 'loud minority' and in actuality only represent an infinitesimally tiny amount of Feminist's. It is entirely unreasonable to assume at least 5% of Feminist's globally support HeForShe, it's unreasonable to assume 1% do.

Of course, every negative generalization of Feminist must be attributed to the 0.0000000000000001% of Feminist's globally, and the other 99.9999999999% of course are NOT like that at ALL, and never will be.

Just as the Klu Klux Klan are stereotyped and wrongly generalized, and every single racist person from the KKK is probably only the 0.001%, and the rest are not at all like that.

So, only 0.001% of Feminist's will be opposed to patriarchy, even though this is one of the main beliefs of Feminism, but of course to assume otherwise would be an unfair 'generalization'.



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04 Apr 2016, 9:51 pm

The KKK is a group of racist organizations, pure and simple.

Why would anybody want to join the KKK if they weren't racist?



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05 Apr 2016, 1:10 am

CommanderKeen wrote:
314pe wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So I see a trend among male respondents here: Yes for normal feminists, NO for radical whining hypocrite radical feminists.

That should indicate something, no?

Yes, dating a non-hypocrite radical feminist wouldn't be that bad. Such woman would have to believe in a reversed stereotypical gender roles. She would always pay for the dinner, drive you everywhere, pay full rent, open you doors, defend you from muggers. :D

So, she'd be Ronda Rousey?

Maybe. If most extreme feminism is like that, then I have no problem with it.

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The answer is no, because of the fact shell always try to shame me for being male, be controlling and dictate how I should live and try to take control of my life! She would expect me to be a door mat and walk all over me and if I refuse I am a misogynist! She will beat me and take advantage of the fact I cannot hit back and be little me wherever I go! She will emasculate me 24/7 as a means to make her feel empowered and take advantage and control me more!

No, that would not be tolerated in the most radical patriarchal of relationships and I don't see how that would be ok in either a matriarchal or egalitarian relationship.



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05 Apr 2016, 2:46 am

I wouldn't date a modern feminist, that is for sure. If they were a feminist in the sense of Christina Hoff Sommers, then I would.

Feminism has become synonymous with hating men, Caucasians and anyone that doesn't prescribe to the red soviet diatribe SJWs pump out nowadays.



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05 Apr 2016, 3:27 am

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I wouldn't date a modern feminist, that is for sure. If they were a feminist in the sense of Christina Hoff Sommers, then I would.

Feminism has become synonymous with hating men, Caucasians and anyone that doesn't prescribe to the red soviet diatribe SJWs pump out nowadays.

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05 Apr 2016, 7:47 am

I wouldn't date anybody who thinks I'm part of some "patriarchy."



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05 Apr 2016, 12:31 pm

I'm a girl and yes. I would expect any girl or guy or enby I date to be feminist.



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06 Apr 2016, 7:19 am

Would you date one of the feminists in this video?


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