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16 Oct 2021, 12:15 pm

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Scabs suck.
If you don't go to work you get fired plain and simple. It's not slavery. Why do people who are willing to work suck?
Because they are stealing another person’s job when they cross a picket line…
WRONG. Jobs are not property, so they cannot be stolen.

Employment is a privilege granted by the employer; the employer can revoke that privilege and grant it to another.



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16 Oct 2021, 12:17 pm

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At that point in time, it will not matter to me. I will likely be moving away to a much better place before that happens. :lol:


And when that place also adopts UBI? :chin:


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16 Oct 2021, 12:18 pm

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BUT THAT'S COMMUNISM!! !

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16 Oct 2021, 12:20 pm

Fnord wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
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Scabs suck.
If you don't go to work you get fired plain and simple. It's not slavery. Why do people who are willing to work suck?
Because they are stealing another person’s job when they cross a picket line…
WRONG. Jobs are not property, so they cannot be stolen.

Employment is a privilege granted by the employer; the employer can revoke that privilege and grant it to another.

We will have to disagree on this.To me it is theft of another persons wages and takes the food off their table.


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16 Oct 2021, 12:21 pm

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BUT THAT'S COMMUNISM!! !

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Call me Comrade. :lol:


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16 Oct 2021, 12:39 pm

Another job to get replaced soon by AI robots:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lazy-crane-o ... 00567.html

If you read the full article, it is already in progress.



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16 Oct 2021, 12:41 pm

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Another job to get replaced soon by AI robots:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lazy-crane-o ... 00567.html

If you read the full article, it is already in progress.


I love when people lack the self-awareness to realize it'll happen to their positions too eventually.


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16 Oct 2021, 12:45 pm

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At that point in time, it will not matter to me. I will likely be moving away to a much better place before that happens. :lol:


And when that place also adopts UBI? :chin:


You have not figured out what I was saying yet. :D



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16 Oct 2021, 12:47 pm

The pursuit of employment is a right, but employment itself is a privilege granted by an employer. So if anyone “owns” a job, it is the employer, and the job itself is merely “loaned” to the employee under certain conditions, not the least of which is that the employee actually works for the employer. When the employee stops working for the employer, the employee abdicates the privilege of “having” the job, and the employer is free to grant the privilege of employment to another person.

Unions lie to people by telling them that jobs belong to them.



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16 Oct 2021, 12:50 pm

There are plenty of jobs available without crossing a picket line.
Trucker shortage, bus driver shortage , nursing etc..
Of course it’s harder to train for these jobs than crossing a picket line.


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16 Oct 2021, 12:51 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Axeman wrote:
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Scabs suck.
If you don't go to work you get fired plain and simple. It's not slavery. Why do people who are willing to work suck?
Because they are stealing another person’s job when they cross a picket line…
WRONG. Jobs are not property, so they cannot be stolen. Employment is a privilege granted by the employer; the employer can revoke that privilege and grant it to another.
We will have to disagree on this.To me it is theft of another persons wages and takes the food off their table.
YOU are disagreeing; I am merely correct.



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16 Oct 2021, 12:53 pm

QuantumChemist wrote:
Another job to get replaced soon by AI robots:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lazy-crane-o ... 00567.html

If you read the full article, it is already in progress.
Yes, the self-driving taxis were only the beginning.



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16 Oct 2021, 12:53 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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Another job to get replaced soon by AI robots:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lazy-crane-o ... 00567.html

If you read the full article, it is already in progress.


I love when people lack the self-awareness to realize it'll happen to their positions too eventually.


When AI can replace my mind, I will be long out of time on earth. I will welcome it BTW. It will not matter then as it can take over the reigns for all I care. My thinking skills are hard to replace that way.

Adaptability is something required in my field. We are used to constant change. One of my goals is to try to design the materials for the chips that make the AI work (and then retire off of the patents). Your job is more at risk than mine.



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16 Oct 2021, 12:58 pm

Fnord wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Axeman wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Scabs suck.
If you don't go to work you get fired plain and simple. It's not slavery. Why do people who are willing to work suck?
Because they are stealing another person’s job when they cross a picket line…
WRONG. Jobs are not property, so they cannot be stolen. Employment is a privilege granted by the employer; the employer can revoke that privilege and grant it to another.
We will have to disagree on this.To me it is theft of another persons wages and takes the food off their table.
YOU are disagreeing; I am merely correct.

Plenty of jobs without taking someone else’s.Ethically I am correct. :P
https://www.reuters.com/business/us-pri ... 021-09-01/


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16 Oct 2021, 1:02 pm

QuantumChemist wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
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Another job to get replaced soon by AI robots:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lazy-crane-o ... 00567.html

If you read the full article, it is already in progress.


I love when people lack the self-awareness to realize it'll happen to their positions too eventually.


When AI can replace my mind, I will be long out of time on earth. I will welcome it BTW. It will not matter then as it can take over the reigns for all I care. My thinking skills are hard to replace that way.


You sound like all those boomers who don't care about climate change because they'll be dead soon.

f**k y'all, I got mine isn't a healthy attitude to go through life with but good luck with it.


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16 Oct 2021, 1:06 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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Another job to get replaced soon by AI robots:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lazy-crane-o ... 00567.html

If you read the full article, it is already in progress.


I love when people lack the self-awareness to realize it'll happen to their positions too eventually.


When AI can replace my mind, I will be long out of time on earth. I will welcome it BTW. It will not matter then as it can take over the reigns for all I care. My thinking skills are hard to replace that way.


You sound like all those boomers who don't care about climate change because they'll be dead soon.

f**k y'all, I got mine isn't a healthy attitude to go through life with but good luck with it.


No, I had to earn my way in life. So should everyone else.

As for climate change, I have experience in environmental chemistry. I can adapt to my job as needed.