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07 Nov 2020, 5:37 am

Rugby teenager Paul Dunleavy jailed for terror offences

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A teenager who was part of a banned neo-Nazi group has been jailed for preparing acts of terrorism.

A judge ruled 17-year-old Paul Dunleavy can be named but described his efforts to commit the act as "inept".

Dunleavy had admitted nine counts of possessing terror manuals and also had videos of the New Zealand terror attack in 2019, in which 51 people died.

At Birmingham Crown Court, Judge Paul Farrer QC jailed the defendant for five years and six months.
Dunleavy, who had denied preparing an attack, had joined a neo-Nazi group called Feuerkrieg Division (FKD) in July last year, the court was told.

The group was created by a 13-year-old Estonian and was outlawed in the UK this summer after being linked to terrorism cases around the world.

Judge Farrer said Dunleavy had offered practical advice on firearms to other FKD members, some of whom have gone on themselves to be convicted of terrorism offences in other countries.

The judge told the defendant he harboured an intention to commit an act of terrorism, but added it was unlikely the he would have followed through, describing his preparations as "inept".
He added: "Your autism impacts on your maturity and understanding."

Following his arrest at his home in September 2019, West Midlands Police said detectives seized his phone, finding over 90 documents on firearms, explosives and military tactics, right wing material and online chat conversations.
They also found several knives, air rifles, face coverings, camouflage face paint, shotgun cartridges and bullet casings.


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07 Nov 2020, 5:42 am

At least most of the right wing nutjobs are dumb enough to get caught.



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07 Nov 2020, 9:33 am

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At least most of the right wing nutjobs are dumb enough to get caught.


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16 Nov 2020, 11:08 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Rugby teenager Paul Dunleavy jailed for terror offences
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A teenager who was part of a banned neo-Nazi group has been jailed for preparing acts of terrorism.

A judge ruled 17-year-old Paul Dunleavy can be named but described his efforts to commit the act as "inept".

Dunleavy had admitted nine counts of possessing terror manuals and also had videos of the New Zealand terror attack in 2019, in which 51 people died.

At Birmingham Crown Court, Judge Paul Farrer QC jailed the defendant for five years and six months.
Dunleavy, who had denied preparing an attack, had joined a neo-Nazi group called Feuerkrieg Division (FKD) in July last year, the court was told.

The group was created by a 13-year-old Estonian and was outlawed in the UK this summer after being linked to terrorism cases around the world.

Judge Farrer said Dunleavy had offered practical advice on firearms to other FKD members, some of whom have gone on themselves to be convicted of terrorism offences in other countries.

The judge told the defendant he harboured an intention to commit an act of terrorism, but added it was unlikely the he would have followed through, describing his preparations as "inept".
He added: "Your autism impacts on your maturity and understanding."

Following his arrest at his home in September 2019, West Midlands Police said detectives seized his phone, finding over 90 documents on firearms, explosives and military tactics, right wing material and online chat conversations.
They also found several knives, air rifles, face coverings, camouflage face paint, shotgun cartridges and bullet casings.


Is there other evidence that this teenager was actually autistic?



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17 Nov 2020, 6:56 pm

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Rugby teenager Paul Dunleavy jailed for terror offences
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A teenager who was part of a banned neo-Nazi group has been jailed for preparing acts of terrorism.

A judge ruled 17-year-old Paul Dunleavy can be named but described his efforts to commit the act as "inept".

Dunleavy had admitted nine counts of possessing terror manuals and also had videos of the New Zealand terror attack in 2019, in which 51 people died.

At Birmingham Crown Court, Judge Paul Farrer QC jailed the defendant for five years and six months.
Dunleavy, who had denied preparing an attack, had joined a neo-Nazi group called Feuerkrieg Division (FKD) in July last year, the court was told.

The group was created by a 13-year-old Estonian and was outlawed in the UK this summer after being linked to terrorism cases around the world.

Judge Farrer said Dunleavy had offered practical advice on firearms to other FKD members, some of whom have gone on themselves to be convicted of terrorism offences in other countries.

The judge told the defendant he harboured an intention to commit an act of terrorism, but added it was unlikely the he would have followed through, describing his preparations as "inept".
He added: "Your autism impacts on your maturity and understanding."

Following his arrest at his home in September 2019, West Midlands Police said detectives seized his phone, finding over 90 documents on firearms, explosives and military tactics, right wing material and online chat conversations.
They also found several knives, air rifles, face coverings, camouflage face paint, shotgun cartridges and bullet casings.


Is there other evidence that this teenager was actually autistic?

I have not but I doubt the Judge would have diagnosed him out of his own volition. There must have been an expert witness to testify to that.


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18 Nov 2020, 11:23 am

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Who the hell would want to be a Nazi anyway?
Degenerates...



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18 Nov 2020, 11:28 am

Pepe wrote:
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I still don't feel there are actual "Nazis" amongst the "alt-right" people here on WP. There are certainly "alt-right" people in the greater world who adopt blatantly neo-Nazi ideology. Where did I deny that?


I don't know of any neo-nazis or alt.right autistic members on WP.
I don't think we have any.

We had this discussion before and came to the same conclusion I just mentioned. 8)
It seems anybody who doesn't have a Liberal view on things are Nazi's by default. Liberals and Conservatives should learn to coexsist.



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18 Nov 2020, 12:10 pm

StayFrosty wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I still don't feel there are actual "Nazis" amongst the "alt-right" people here on WP. There are certainly "alt-right" people in the greater world who adopt blatantly neo-Nazi ideology. Where did I deny that?


I don't know of any neo-nazis or alt.right autistic members on WP.
I don't think we have any.

We had this discussion before and came to the same conclusion I just mentioned. 8)
It seems anybody who doesn't have a Liberal view on things are Nazi's by default. Liberals and Conservatives should learn to coexsist.


Others have pointed out as much.

I figure liberalism is seen as so good and pure to some, they reckon only nazis would oppose it.



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18 Nov 2020, 1:32 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
StayFrosty wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I still don't feel there are actual "Nazis" amongst the "alt-right" people here on WP. There are certainly "alt-right" people in the greater world who adopt blatantly neo-Nazi ideology. Where did I deny that?


I don't know of any neo-nazis or alt.right autistic members on WP.
I don't think we have any.

We had this discussion before and came to the same conclusion I just mentioned. 8)
It seems anybody who doesn't have a Liberal view on things are Nazi's by default. Liberals and Conservatives should learn to coexsist.


Others have pointed out as much.

I figure liberalism is seen as so good and pure to some, they reckon only nazis would oppose it.
Because they are Nazi's themselves(SJW types). I believe most if not all Nazi's after WW2 who were captured were imprisoned or executed for their crimes. Keep in mind, Not all Liberals are bad. Not all Conservatives are bad. You have degenerates on both sides.



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18 Nov 2020, 4:59 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
StayFrosty wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I still don't feel there are actual "Nazis" amongst the "alt-right" people here on WP. There are certainly "alt-right" people in the greater world who adopt blatantly neo-Nazi ideology. Where did I deny that?


I don't know of any neo-nazis or alt.right autistic members on WP.
I don't think we have any.

We had this discussion before and came to the same conclusion I just mentioned. 8)
It seems anybody who doesn't have a Liberal view on things are Nazi's by default. Liberals and Conservatives should learn to coexsist.


Others have pointed out as much.

I figure liberalism is seen as so good and pure to some, they reckon only nazis would oppose it.


Most conservatives in the liberal west are liberals. Ideals like freedom of speech and the right to participate in the political process aren't just held by lefties.

Those who wish to destroy those liberal values and replace them with some sort of dictatorship inspired by pre-enlightenment values probably shouldn't be lumped in with conservatives, even if they prefer to self-identify as such. Guys like Steve Bannon aren't conservatives, they're much closer to fascists.


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18 Nov 2020, 10:44 pm

StayFrosty wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
StayFrosty wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I still don't feel there are actual "Nazis" amongst the "alt-right" people here on WP. There are certainly "alt-right" people in the greater world who adopt blatantly neo-Nazi ideology. Where did I deny that?


I don't know of any neo-nazis or alt.right autistic members on WP.
I don't think we have any.

We had this discussion before and came to the same conclusion I just mentioned. 8)
It seems anybody who doesn't have a Liberal view on things are Nazi's by default. Liberals and Conservatives should learn to coexsist.


Others have pointed out as much.

I figure liberalism is seen as so good and pure to some, they reckon only nazis would oppose it.
Because they are Nazi's themselves(SJW types). I believe most if not all Nazi's after WW2 who were captured were imprisoned or executed for their crimes. Keep in mind, Not all Liberals are bad. Not all Conservatives are bad. You have degenerates on both sides.


There are neo-nazis, most people just call them nazis...surely you are aware of that?


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19 Nov 2020, 2:11 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
StayFrosty wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
StayFrosty wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I still don't feel there are actual "Nazis" amongst the "alt-right" people here on WP. There are certainly "alt-right" people in the greater world who adopt blatantly neo-Nazi ideology. Where did I deny that?


I don't know of any neo-nazis or alt.right autistic members on WP.
I don't think we have any.

We had this discussion before and came to the same conclusion I just mentioned. 8)
It seems anybody who doesn't have a Liberal view on things are Nazi's by default. Liberals and Conservatives should learn to coexsist.


Others have pointed out as much.

I figure liberalism is seen as so good and pure to some, they reckon only nazis would oppose it.
Because they are Nazi's themselves(SJW types). I believe most if not all Nazi's after WW2 who were captured were imprisoned or executed for their crimes. Keep in mind, Not all Liberals are bad. Not all Conservatives are bad. You have degenerates on both sides.


There are neo-nazis, most people just call them nazis...surely you are aware of that?
Nazi, Neo-Nazi, same BS. Most of us civilized folk just call them degenerates. SJW's are also degenerates.



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19 Nov 2020, 2:40 am

Only time I have ever called someone a Nazi was when my online friend was supporting the Holocaust denial and also defending Hitler and Nazis and saying s**t like "Hitler is only painted as a villain in history because he lost." Then other times my friend acts like it really did happen and Hitler really was this evil man we all know of so my friend is something there. :lol: Yes he also told me "you gotta use critical thinking and be logical about if it happened" and started with his Holocaust denial. :roll:


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19 Nov 2020, 4:34 am

How can you argue for 16 pages about this?

No one should be "neo nazi". But folks who would have been victims of the Holocaust doubly shouldnt be neo nazi.

So...

Lets start a thread with the title "Water is wet", and see if we all can make it last for sixteen pages. :lol:



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19 Nov 2020, 4:39 am

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How can you argue for 16 pages about this?

No one should be "neo nazi". But folks who would have been victims of the Holocaust doubly shouldnt be neo nazi.

So...

Lets start a thread with the title "Water is wet", and see if we all can make it last for sixteen pages. :lol:


I'm not sure the 'water isn't really wet and anyone who disagrees is even wetter' brigade will be as vocal as the 'Nazis don't really exist anymore and anyways aren't really a problem anymore, even if they did exist; besides SJWs are just as bad' brigade.


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19 Nov 2020, 4:52 am

On Wrong Planet the word Nazi has been written more times than the word Autism.