I think Aspergeans should NOT have children

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I'm so sorry but this thread is BS, of course it's going to get a lot of posts, it's like saying Aspies can't possibly have any feelings or emotions because they lack facial expressions.

If you are confident and strong then YES.

If you keep thinking negatively and doubt yourself then NOT IN A MILLION YEARS.

I'm sure most aspies will raise WONDERFUL kids.
This thread seeks attention... over 200 answers for something that is determined by personal inner strength.

I'm flabbergasted.

Your answers to your questions are just that *your* answers, and in no way indicative of the capabilities or willingness of other Aspies to be parents.

My answers to these questions are:

(1) I don't suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, if anything I suffer from a lack of tolerance and understanding on the part of NTs. And I hadn't heard about AS until I was in my mid-20s, and then immediately knew it applied to me, although I wasn't formally diagnosed until the age of 37. I'm happy with who I am, I am happy to be Aspie. As for any child of mine 'suffering', well I think some Aspie parents who have experienced difficulties at school and so on has an awareness and insight and understanding can help an Aspie child. I think I'm one of those Aspies who has sufficient awareness and insight that I would be able to help an Aspie child so that they would 'suffer' less than I did.

And you never really know what a child is going to 'suffer' from as they're growing up, they might be bullied for wearing the wrong brand of sneakers/trainers or something as stupid as that, or they might suffer from a disease, if everyone thought like that, no one would have any children at all and humankind would die out.

(2) I don't believe that my Aspie genes are necessarily degenerative. Yes, I grew up in an abusive household, but if I hadn't, if I had been loved and supported, then I might have done very well at engineering. Yes, I have some deficits, when it comes to mild prosopagnosia, delayed learning of facial expressions and body language, but I have some skills, hyperlexia, as a child I had an almost photographic memory. In many ways, I think of Asperger's Syndrome to be a blessing, I was certainly considered to be a 'gifted child' at school, I was very academically able.

(3) I'm different, it doesn't necessarily make me unfit. There are people with all kinds of disabilities who are able to have and raise children, people who are deaf and/or blind, people who use wheelchairs, people with no arms, and so on. They all manage to cope. In some ways, I think it's beneficial for children to be aware that people come in all shapes and sizes, as they will likely grow up to be more tolerant, compassionate and open-minded and open-hearted people.

(4) That no one is perfect, we are all flawed in our own way. See my answer above. It's beneficial for children to learn that we don't all come from a cookie-cutter style mould, we're all individual.

"I think Aspergeans should not have children" is an unquantified statement. You don't refer to some or all.

:? People have the right to reproduce, but at the same time people should use their brains if there is a chance of a major genetic disorder or something like that. Is Asperger's a major genetic disorder? Probably not.

On the other hand, some would argue I should not have been born. I was the product of two mental patients in a state hospital. And I have had severe problems in my life. But do i wish I was never born? No, but on the other hand the severe meltdowns I had and the psychosis and stuff, I wouldn't wish that on anyone and I know in my case it's genetic. I probably won't have kids myself, besides I need my meds or my mind totally breaks down and they are very bad for pregnancy, but I don't think it would be right for the government to get involved or something like that.

Agree 100% with the OP.

All of his points make perfect sense.

Anyone who disagrees is delusional.

It is not about having the right to reproduce. It is about what is sensical.

Last edited by KevinLA on 17 Apr 2009, 10:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

...you're joking right?

no.

You are just delusional.

I'd like to make a point about prejudism.

It doesn't matter if you are NT, it doesn't matter if you are on the autism spectrum.

The bad news about having labels branded on you is people will focus on just that label and declare what you can and cannot do. What you should and should not do all based on stereotypes.

Since NT's don't really have a label, you can see on the news a person who snapped and did something horrible to their kid. It won't be blamed on their label because they have no label. It will be just a person who snapped.

There will be no topics like "Should Nt's have kids or not?" "This proves neurotypicals should stop having kids" "Will another NT snap?"

It's odd that you are allowed to stick around here to insult others.

I'm guessing you are a sockpuppet.

Albert Einstein
Isaac Newton
Abraham Lincoln
Alexander the Great
Leonardo da Vinci
Vincent van Gogh
Beethoven
Socrates
Bill Gates
Shakespeare
Marilyn Monroe
Kurt Cobain

All believed to be/have been Aspies.

+ Without Bills contribution some of you fools wouldn't be able to get your point across at all.
Do you people even think before you type or do you just base your conclusion on your own miserable life experiences?

LET'S ALL STOP BREATHING BECAUSE KevinLA HAD A HARD ASS LIFE! (psst! welcome to the club...)

You still want aspies to stop f*****g?

With my commentary about diabetics, I was addressing anyone. I think (from what I see of parenting and its results) the idea of making parents prove their fitness to be parents before being allowed to conceive is an idea whose time may have come.

A lot of bad parents are out there. I'm not totally comfortable with the idea of government saying if you or I can have kids, but when you look at the fact that they can dictate if you can own a gun (a constitutional right in America) or drive a car but any jerk can pop out a baby, something seems messed up that needs to be addressed.

The recent scandal with "octo-mom" in California is an excellent example.

Didn't you just post about how our poor social skills means nothing compared to the poor functional skills of normalcy? Maybe you do want to argue just to argue.

I think Kevin was joking.

Like the first response asked and stated - you are/are you being a twat?

Well, tbh, the first response didn't ask..

1) stop moping - we're here anyway.
2) WHAT THE F00K ARE YOU ANYWAY -SOME SELF HATING ASPIE?? - Dear Ghod, I thought the caucasian Jew had a monopoly on that BS - get a freaking grip, for a change. um..before you judge, that statement you should probably ask yourself if I might be a Jew or not.
3)who knows - but that's a personal issue - not something you can extrapolate to the entire community, Maybe you're right and you shouldn't transfer your genes any further - but whichever way stop hassling the rest of us about it! sorry to be harsh. I think maybe you should procreate tbh, if you can get out of your BS self pity well... but of course I could be wrong *shrugs*
4)f**k knows - but it's nothing to do with the rest of us - maybe it's about you growing up personally - I'd agree. scratch no.3 answer - don't have kids just yet - you're not ready - but then one never is when it happens.


Yes, you are being offensive - you extrapolate you're own personal grounds upon an 'aspie average' - ridiculous - decide for yourself if you can live up to the responsibility of parenting. To suggest that everyone, every 1 in 150, shouldn't have children is like saying "I think Asperger's should die out because it is bad' You get me? f00k that. Get a grip, comanchero ffs.

Last edited by Concenik on 18 Apr 2009, 8:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

i think _nobody_ should have any more kids, but thats another thread.

I think that's a really interesting POV even though I think it's BS: please start the thread