Feminism vs. Equality

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Maybe not EVERY time, but Western trials do have a tendency to favor the victim. Other men may disagree with me on this, but I don't see anything wrong with that. Rape is a delicate issue and giving the accuser the appropriate treatment is vital to the process. Now, we do still have to have due process, which means part of the problem is this basically puts the victim on trial. Whether a suspect truly deserves it or not, he is guaranteed representation in court. Depending on the defender, things very well can get rough. It hardly makes sense to make the victim relive what happened. It's certainly not encouraging, anyway. The less women have to fear, the better.

I think the natural order is such that gender roles are defined as men=protector/provider and women=nurturer, complimentary but equal roles. As such, men have a natural responsibility to see that women are not abused at their hands. Rape, I think, violates that order, as does any sex in any uncommitted relationship. There is nothing wrong with favoring women in cases of sexual abuse.

Culturally the west has developed a heightened sense of the worth of both sexes. I think non-westerners have this same innate sense, but quite possibly religious misunderstanding has reinforced the long-obsoleted view of women as property. Women are to have a forgiving attitude towards their abusers. While this is noble and good, it doesn't mean that women are undeserving of justice. No one asks to be violated. In fact, Islam teaches to abstain from sexual immorality. Yet in practice a man is innocent if he's been enticed by the way a woman dresses? Looks like hypocrisy to me.

So for the purpose of this discussion I'm not interested in non-western contemporary values.

I also understand that women don't just go around crying rape all the time. I'm just saying that the way the laws are written give women a wide berth in the way of demanding recompense from rape, quite possibly even if the man understood the act to be consensual, and even if the woman is seeking legal recourse for impure motives.

And then there are instances where people cry rape when there wasn't any rape.

Duke Lacross case anyone...

Inuyasha, why do you keep bringing that up? We have all acknowledged that happens, so what's the purpose of repeating it?

I'm pointing out this should not favor either side. If the man accused did not commit rape they are still tarnished for life even if they are found innocent, their lives are completely destroyed, they often lose their jobs, etc.

If the woman was actually raped, then her world is turned into a living hell.

Justice cannot favor either side.

It shouldn't favor anything but truth, but the fact is men are favored when it comes to obtaining a conviction.

What men suffer from an accusation is not much different than if he had been accused of a different crime.

And when women are supposedly the rapist it favors the women. There is something known as "Innocent until proven guilty."



Actually it can be far worse, because it can destroy families and potentially the families will never get back together. He might not ever be able to be in a relationship with anyone ever again.

I know the concept, Inuyasha. It's one of the reasons why the man is favored.

Do you have any idea how many rape cases never make it to the court room because 'there's not enough evidence'? I bet not. You're too busy focusing on the false rape claims that are even less likely to make it to court.