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25 Jan 2016, 9:40 pm

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How is it not the issue of non-gun owners when the gun companies/lobbies refuse to accept that their products aren't regulated sufficiently? they could easily make the bad press go away and save lives, but instead they're valuing dollar bills over human lives.


Actually, they're valuing truth over ignorance and idiocy, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
truth huh? ok then. Is it truth that the gun industry has ignored what the public wanted for ~ the past 20 odd years with respect to gun regulation?

The fact that you think private industry is responsible for drafting and passing legislation into law speaks volumes.
And it doesnt seem like the John Q. Citizens are all that worried about more regulation with all the guns they've bought since your boy Barack took office. Something else you wouldn't know diddly about...
now you're just being dishonest. Lobbying has been a thing since at least the 70s to influence laws being written, and the military-industrial complex is one of the biggest industries in america thanks to how much america spends on defense.
doesn't seem like it eh? you must not have bothered to read anything I posted. you're still a concern troll, color me shocked.

Last time you just called me a troll.
Now I'm a concern troll. Is that like a promotion? :D
Either way, if I'm a troll you're a troll enabler. :shameonyou:
nice, so you're just throwing up your hands and going "argue? i'm just here to throw stones! hey, why are you all looking at me like that?"

Does anyone know what the little fish is babbling about now?
Anyone?
I think maybe he $hit in his fish bowl again...


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25 Jan 2016, 9:44 pm

Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Fugu wrote:
How is it not the issue of non-gun owners when the gun companies/lobbies refuse to accept that their products aren't regulated sufficiently? they could easily make the bad press go away and save lives, but instead they're valuing dollar bills over human lives.


Actually, they're valuing truth over ignorance and idiocy, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
truth huh? ok then. Is it truth that the gun industry has ignored what the public wanted for ~ the past 20 odd years with respect to gun regulation?

The fact that you think private industry is responsible for drafting and passing legislation into law speaks volumes.
And it doesnt seem like the John Q. Citizens are all that worried about more regulation with all the guns they've bought since your boy Barack took office. Something else you wouldn't know diddly about...
now you're just being dishonest. Lobbying has been a thing since at least the 70s to influence laws being written, and the military-industrial complex is one of the biggest industries in america thanks to how much america spends on defense.
doesn't seem like it eh? you must not have bothered to read anything I posted. you're still a concern troll, color me shocked.

Last time you just called me a troll.
Now I'm a concern troll. Is that like a promotion? :D
Either way, if I'm a troll you're a troll enabler. :shameonyou:
nice, so you're just throwing up your hands and going "argue? i'm just here to throw stones! hey, why are you all looking at me like that?"

Does anyone know what the little fish is babbling about now?
Anyone?
I think maybe he $hit in his fish bowl again...


Confused troll is very confused.



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25 Jan 2016, 9:49 pm

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I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.

So what, you just walk into 7-11 and buy a gun like a slurpee?
Maybe from a vending machine somewhere?

Does ATF form 4473 mean anything to you?
Waiting periods?
NICS?
State laws?

But just go with the liberal propaganda you've swallowed hook, line, and sinker (pun intended) and keep jabbering about no regulation whilst accusing others of trollery.
It's certainly entertaining to me.


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25 Jan 2016, 9:51 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Fugu wrote:
How is it not the issue of non-gun owners when the gun companies/lobbies refuse to accept that their products aren't regulated sufficiently? they could easily make the bad press go away and save lives, but instead they're valuing dollar bills over human lives.


Actually, they're valuing truth over ignorance and idiocy, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
truth huh? ok then. Is it truth that the gun industry has ignored what the public wanted for ~ the past 20 odd years with respect to gun regulation?

The fact that you think private industry is responsible for drafting and passing legislation into law speaks volumes.
And it doesnt seem like the John Q. Citizens are all that worried about more regulation with all the guns they've bought since your boy Barack took office. Something else you wouldn't know diddly about...
now you're just being dishonest. Lobbying has been a thing since at least the 70s to influence laws being written, and the military-industrial complex is one of the biggest industries in america thanks to how much america spends on defense.
doesn't seem like it eh? you must not have bothered to read anything I posted. you're still a concern troll, color me shocked.

Last time you just called me a troll.
Now I'm a concern troll. Is that like a promotion? :D
Either way, if I'm a troll you're a troll enabler. :shameonyou:
nice, so you're just throwing up your hands and going "argue? i'm just here to throw stones! hey, why are you all looking at me like that?"

Does anyone know what the little fish is babbling about now?
Anyone?
I think maybe he $hit in his fish bowl again...


Confused troll is very confused.


No, it's concern troll is very confused.
Remember, your little fish pal has promoted me from just regular troll. :D


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25 Jan 2016, 9:58 pm

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I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.

So what, you just walk into 7-11 and buy a gun like a slurpee?
Maybe from a vending machine somewhere?
Nah, I don't even have to get into my car
http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/sea ... llertype=1
that's just some random site I picked out of google, there's a bunch more results for "private gun vendors"



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25 Jan 2016, 10:03 pm

Fugu wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.

So what, you just walk into 7-11 and buy a gun like a slurpee?
Maybe from a vending machine somewhere?
Nah, I don't even have to get into my car
http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/sea ... llertype=1
that's just some random site I picked out of google, there's a bunch more results for "private gun vendors"

Still gotta go through the same drill if you're buying from a dealer, how most guns are bought.
There ain't no "loophole".


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25 Jan 2016, 10:06 pm

Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.

So what, you just walk into 7-11 and buy a gun like a slurpee?
Maybe from a vending machine somewhere?
Nah, I don't even have to get into my car
http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/sea ... llertype=1
that's just some random site I picked out of google, there's a bunch more results for "private gun vendors"

Still gotta go through the same drill if you're buying from a dealer, how most guns are bought.
There ain't no "loophole".
you say that, but

Quote:
Q: Can ARMSLIST help me conduct a transaction?
ARMSLIST is purely a service provider that allow sellers to list items. As such, ARMSLIST can not and will not be a party in transactions. It is the sole responsibility of the buyer and seller to conduct safe and legal transactions.
the highlighted portions above pretty much say "we can't be held responsible for whatever s**t you get into, it's up to you to make sure it's legal" so your argument about how there's no loophole is dead in the water, sorry.



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25 Jan 2016, 10:11 pm

Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.


The bigger problem is that some weapons are used in mass shootings and are ILLEGALLY sent by the BUFFOON in the White House. You get control of your own side first and then we can talk.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... mic-state/


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25 Jan 2016, 10:13 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.


The bigger problem is that some weapons are used in mass shootings and are ILLEGALLY sent by the BUFFOON in the White House. You get control of your own side first and then we can talk.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... mic-state/
no, the bigger problem is still regulating firearms, the weapons you mentioned being a subset of 'firearms'. posting a link touting a report by the "Citizens' Commission On Benghazi" which is just the usual think tank pushing conspiracies doesn't cut it as a source, sorry.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/0 ... -be/198991



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25 Jan 2016, 10:17 pm

Fugu wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.

So what, you just walk into 7-11 and buy a gun like a slurpee?
Maybe from a vending machine somewhere?
Nah, I don't even have to get into my car
http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/sea ... llertype=1
that's just some random site I picked out of google, there's a bunch more results for "private gun vendors"

Still gotta go through the same drill if you're buying from a dealer, how most guns are bought.
There ain't no "loophole".
you say that, but

Quote:
Q: Can ARMSLIST help me conduct a transaction?
ARMSLIST is purely a service provider that allow sellers to list items. As such, ARMSLIST can not and will not be a party in transactions. It is the sole responsibility of the buyer and seller to conduct safe and legal transactions.
the highlighted portions above pretty much say "we can't be held responsible for whatever s**t you get into, it's up to you to make sure it's legal" so your argument about how there's no loophole is dead in the water, sorry.

Your point?
I bought my 4runner through Craigslist and it was the same deal.
They post the advertisement on thier website same as Armslist (or whatever) for a fee.
They post your $hit and that's the end of it for them...

The loophole thing is something your tribe intended (lied about) by making the public think that any and all sales/purchases of guns done at gun shows were off the record.


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25 Jan 2016, 10:19 pm

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According to biased left polls 52% of Americans oppose further gun restrictions.

Also gun control ranked 19 out of 23 of important issues with only 2% saying it was one of the nations important issue. So there's 18 more important issues the president and congress should concern it's self with.

You're Such s hypocrite . So it's ok for your side to lecture people on not putting any measures forward but when one of us then turns it around and says he hasn't himself then we'll the bad guys. Wish you'd stayed away for good.
those "biased left polls" are Gallup polls, one of the most respected names in data collection. I'm curious where you're getting 19 out of 23 from.

feel free to link to where you saw Doxx put forward a solution. until then, please don't call me names, thanks!


http://cdn.cnsnews.com/styles/content_1 ... llup_0.jpg

Lukeda420 told raptor to suggest a regulation
Dox told Lukeda420 where's his regulation since you saying raptor needs to suggest one
You call dox a bully.
I say dox isn't a bully for telling Lukeda420 to do as he preaches,
So your s hypocrite for thinking it's ok for Lukeda420 to demand something but not ok for dox to demand the same from Lukeda420



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25 Jan 2016, 10:20 pm

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Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.


The bigger problem is that some weapons are used in mass shootings and are ILLEGALLY sent by the BUFFOON in the White House. You get control of your own side first and then we can talk.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... mic-state/

Watch out! 8O
The little bubble fish will get angry and call you a TROLL.


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25 Jan 2016, 10:22 pm

Fugu wrote:
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Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.


The bigger problem is that some weapons are used in mass shootings and are ILLEGALLY sent by the BUFFOON in the White House. You get control of your own side first and then we can talk.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... mic-state/
no, the bigger problem is still regulating firearms, the weapons you mentioned being a subset of 'firearms'.


Your own president that YOU voted in is himself doing illegal activity with guns and you think you'll be able to regulate firearms in this country? There's something "fishy" about that way of thinking and it stinks to high heaven. My conversation with you is done until you can start making some sense. Pull your head out of the water because your brain cells are lacking oxygen.


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25 Jan 2016, 10:24 pm

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Your point?
I bought my 4runner through Craigslist and it was the same deal.
They post the advertisement on thier website same as Armslist (or whatever) for a fee.
They post your $hit and that's the end of it for them...

The loophole thing is something your tribe intended (lied about) by making the public think that any and all sales/purchases of guns done at gun shows were off the record.
Cars are tracked in a database, guns are not.
Cars have to be registered and shown to be fit for purpose, guns can be sold privately without record of ownership change or fitness for purpose.

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25 Jan 2016, 10:26 pm

Raptor wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.


The bigger problem is that some weapons are used in mass shootings and are ILLEGALLY sent by the BUFFOON in the White House. You get control of your own side first and then we can talk.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... mic-state/

Watch out! 8O
The little bubble fish will get angry and call you a TROLL.


And you were right, Mr. R. I should take that as a compliment. :mrgreen:


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25 Jan 2016, 10:26 pm

Fugu wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I see what you're doing here and in other threads, you're trying to make us look like extremists for supporting "unregulated guns" when the status quo is the opposite of unregulated, and what we're opposing is expanding that regulation. It's a stupid game, and getting annoying.
the problem with that is that most weapons used by mass shooters are legally bought. you don't get to claim it's regulated when that kind of thing happens.

By that logic nothing is regulated then. Criminals get illegal liquor so it's not regulated. People drive cars without license so cars aren't regulated, people get illegal prescription drugs so prescription are in regulated. People murder so murder is unregulated. Etc etc etc