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What’s up with all the clickbait Peterson YouTube titles? I actually do enjoy listening to him, the clickbait is entertaining, but because I’ve gone down the “oh, what the heck” rabbit hole with clickbait, I’m getting immune to it.

Huh? Your response doesn't make any sense, especially since in the past you spoke of how you were involved in the gentrification of a poverty stricken neighborhood. As I'm just a starving artist worried about how I'm going to fulfill all my plans for Christmas, I can honestly say, of the two of us, it aint me who's privileged.

As I'm just a starving artist worried about how I'm going to fulfill all my plans for Christmas, I can honestly say, of the two of us, it aint me who's privileged.

it aint me who's privileged.

You’re feeding POC whatever you think they want to hear so they’ll shut up. You think CRT favors freedom of speech? Any time you, as a white person, engage in a discussion about racism, even if you are against racism, you are speaking against racism from a position of privilege, and that makes you a hypocrite.

His fan base aren't immune to it yet.

The antidote to racism and any other destructive isms is simple gratitude and sharing values. Republican, Democrat, white, black…doesn’t matter, but are we grateful for what we have and for each other? Do we celebrate achievement, or do we resent achievers? .

[DISCLAIMER: After seeing the “troll” definitions coming out, I want to point out that I am making a point regarding CRT reasoning and arguing that viewpoint. This is by no means intended as a provocation or attack on anyone. However, I DO understand that CRT dialogue comes across as provocative. These are NOT my viewpoints. I’m only going this direction because CRT doesn’t seem to be understood well. I do not intend to dwell on this topic.]


I’ve never been involved in gentrification. I merely said I thought it was a good idea in raising the standard of living in a community and reducing crime.

And yes, if you are white, you ARE privileged. That’s a CRT thing. If you are white, then you have the support system of the white community along with the opportunities that go with it. You won’t be denied a mortgage. You won’t denied a job with better pay. You won’t be denied promotions.

You won’t be shot just for running through a neighborhood while wearing a hoodie. If you got busted for smoking pot or snorting cocaine, you won’t have to serve a lengthy prison sentence.

CRT is not without some element of truth.

But it doesn’t end with you being exempt from policy brutality because you’re white. It is BECAUSE you do not face these problems that you cannot speak to the same problems. It is not part of your lived experience. Because you are white, you ARE privileged. And that makes you not simply part of the problem. It makes you THE problem.

And being the problem, everything you say about black people and systemic racism amounts to nothing more than empty virtue signaling. It makes you a hypocrite.

Think about it. When desegregation began in schools, how did they implement it? By busing kids out of the district, right? Well, they didn’t bus white kids into black neighborhoods and schools. They bused black kids into white schools. It was always white people who controlled how segregation would end driven by laws passed by white policymakers. It was never about improving the lot of blacks. It was about maintaining a white hegemony. CRT is not about whites and blacks understanding each other. It’s about who possesses hegemonic control. As a white person, you are part of systemic racism and there is really nothing you can do to change things other than shut your mouth and actively work to shift from white to black hegemony and control. If you genuinely want to build bridges, you have to begin by admitting that you are racist. By admitting you are a self-serving racist, you can’t help black people, but AT LEAST you bring the issue of systemic racism and your role in it out in the open. And no…you can NOT help black people, like, literally CAN’T. You cannot engage. You are racist, like all white people, and black people have had more “help” from white people than they ever wanted. I mean…even under slavery white people were “helping” Africans live a “better” quality of life than they had in Africa. So…no, you as a white supremacist have nothing to offer them.

Look at your own response about yourself:

“Starving”? Really? Starving so bad you don’t know how you’re going to celebrate your white, Christian holiday? You poor thing.


See…that right there. That’s just outright denial. Your whiteness has been attacked, bless your heart. Be careful, your fragility is showing.

I’m not a proponent of CRT. It’s not a good thing. Sure, teach about history in school. Teach about racism because it is immoral and we’re better than that. CRT teaches that as long as you are of a certain race and skin color, there is something wrong with you. Why not just skip teaching about identity and just tell everyone to treat each other with kindness and mutual dignity and respect? Are cops really treating black people differently and unfairly? Ok, then let’s have that conversation. But let’s have a reasonable talk about it and drop all the hasty generalizations.

No, my whiteness hasn't been attacked, as my identity doesn't rest on the color of my skin.
I'm arguing with you because of you label anything you don't like as communist, as CRT in this case.

You aren't interested in rational intellectual debate so I'm appealing to how this is tied up with your emotional feelings on the matter as I think you appear to be reactive.

That's what CRT is, and they make it very easy to flip every argument you make around to show all white people as oppressors and all black people as victims.

I could have sworn you said you had been involved in gentrifying a poor neighborhood. If not, then I apologize.
I'll admit that as a white person I've unconsciously benefited from a racist system. But I don't fancy myself a racist, nor do I believe that CRT accuses all white people of it.
I think you know the term "starving artist" means someone, for the sake of his or her art, who lives with less worldly success than most others who follow a more traditional way of life.

No, my whiteness hasn't been attacked, as my identity doesn't rest on the color of my skin.

I'm arguing with you because of you label anything you don't like as communist, as CRT in this case.

According to CRT, by nature what I'm doing is virtue signaling and racist..

How nice. Your privilege grants you the latitude for creative work. You know who else has plenty time for art? Non-violent offenders rotting in prison.


So, what are you saying here? That there's something wrong with identifying as a person of color? You're viewing the world through a color-blind lens. You're stripping others of their racial identity as though there is something wrong with being a POC. You're a racist.***


Irrelevant. You're all in favor of CRT, but you have no idea what CRT actually is. You mentioned earlier you don't fancy yourself a racist, yet you are a white person (I assume). You are the problem, and denying your own racism*** doesn't excuse it.

***Just to be clear, I'm only demonstrating CRT argumentation. I'm not intending to troll or provoke anyone. I'm not trying to engage in personal attacks. According to CRT, by nature what I'm doing is virtue signaling and racist. Any time I've justified calling someone a hypocrite, I'm being a hypocrite myself. It is unavoidable, and half the point of CRT is getting others, including white people, to see things through that lens.

From all your responses, you're obviously not serious about serious debate. For the record, you obviously base your ideas of what CRT is on what conservatives describe it as, not on it's reality.
You well know I'm not attacking people of color by saying my identity doesn't hinge on my whiteness.

Pretty much this. A couple of things:

I’m not really into the whole blame everything on postmodernism thing. The best Pomo ever had to offer really culminated in some philosophical and artistic works back in the 1990s, which Peterson touches on, but it offers little beyond that. Aside from contributions from Derrida and more recent influences from Baudrillard, Pomo is dead. What we see now is significantly different, almost a complete reversion to Romanticism—but not authentic Romanticism, but an appropriation of it—and you can see it so clearly with what Disney has done with Star Wars and, best I can tell, with the new Matrix movie that’s about to hit.

I’m also not keen on Peterson as a spokesperson for conservatism. He’s about as much of a conservative as I am, so why he prefers speaking to a conservative audience I’ll never get.

The other nitpick is just the use of conservative and liberal labels as a whole. Conservatives have the fault wanting to maintain things as they are rather than pushing ahead. Progressives, or liberals, have the problem of preaching the virtues of moving forward while enacting and enforcing rather regressive policies. You would think almost the opposite. But a stride ahead or behind from liberals is what conservatives fight, and once power shifts in favor of conservatives they refuse to reverse damaging policies. So since they don’t actually espouse conservative values, why call them that? Labeling everyone a conservative Republican for opposing Democratic policies or a stupid liberal for opposing Republican policies is a bit much. They are only two sides of a different coin, and I’m ready for a new coin.

I think Peterson wants to view the world objectively, he’s just not ready to fully make that leap. I mostly agree with him.

What’s up with all the clickbait Peterson YouTube titles? I actually do enjoy listening to him, the clickbait is entertaining, but because I’ve gone down the “oh, what the heck” rabbit hole with clickbait, I’m getting immune to it.