Is it WRONG to own guns, rifles, swords, knives, etc.?

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A: I would not try to be a hero by pointing a gun at them and asking to be killed, because that is totally ret*d.

B: If i had the chance, and I happened to surprise him, THEN I would grab a cricket bat or something large enough to thump him in the back of the head. After that, I would call the cops.

Oh, and by the way, citizens' arrests are for the Hollywood movies; the police consider them to be the most stupid and dangerous way to handle a would-be attacker. And they advise anyone NOT to use a gun on a potential attacker because it is that much harder to prove 'self-defence' in court. For example, and this applies to each and every one of you self-styled Rambos out there - say an intruder breaks into your house to pinch your TV or stereo, and you happen to catch them, and they have their hand in their jacket pocket, or are only carrying a hammer which they have used to jimmy open the window or door. You walk in on them, grab your 357 Magnum and shoot, thinking they are armed. The police come, ask why you fired on an unarmed man; you say self defence and YOU GET CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE MANSLAUGHTER, because this person only had a hammer and you made the first move. Now that has totally f****d your argument, because you would be doing 15-20 in Attica State for your crime.

All this pretentious Rambo s**t is just going to get you killed. AND if anybody should get an apology around here, it should be me because of the BS insults that that ret*d snake threw at me to begin with. I offered my point of you on why you shouldn't own weapons, and all I got was A MOUTHFUL OF f*****g ABUSE! Now apologise to me or f**k off.

Is all of America insane or just the lunatics who have been posting this drivel here? What gives you the goddamn right to say that you a***holes are the only ones who have any right to use this forum? EH?
f*****g bombastic ignorant swine the lot of you. I come on here to voice my opinions, and all I get is a lot of kindergarten BS from a bunch of immature brainless prats who can't get their heads out of the TV guide or their issue of Gun Club Weekly or whatever. Well, the hell with you... If you want to carry on like a bunch of catatonic morons, then go ahead. You can have you pissy little argument all to yourself, for all the f*****g good it will do you. I've tried to be reasonable, but you dickheads obviously can't do the same. I'm out of here.

Bye-bye sweetie.

snake and parakeet: You two are the most ignorant idiots it has been my misfortune to stumble across in any forum. I could say I wish you had been aborted, but that's bad Karma. I will say that you should both get together and f**k yourselves with something hard and sandpapery. That is all.

Well I've read a few pages of this very long thread and here's my input.

I'm a citizen so I have the right to bear arms. Those of you that don't have that right aren't citizens but subjects.
Being a citizen means a lot to ME.
I don't believe any government has the right to know who has weapons and what they have. It's none of their business and it’s not their business to manage me. Aspergers or not, I’m an adult and can decide for myself.
Gun control is not about controlling crime it's about controlling people. Do you want big brother to control you?
Although guns can be banned in a legal sense you can never be rid of them. Why? Because they've already been invented and proven useful and desirable tools. You can't de-invent something like that. Where there’s a market there's a source and a supplier.
We’ve had a drug war in the U.S. for over 20 years and we aren’t rid of drugs. Never will be for the very same reason. Now imagine trying to do away with guns. Get real already.
If you can't get people like me to comply with a gun ban do you really think you can get REAL criminals to comply?
It does nothing but create a new class of felons. Otherwise innocent felons that is.

If you’re truly interested in saving lives there’s better and more effective things to pursue that are much more likely to bring results than trying to abolish guns.

I have lots of guns but it may come as a surprise to some of you that I've never used them on anyone. Haven't even come close even though there are those that I'd like to knock off. I'll shoot someone only if it's warranted and legal. Having a gun does not make you do things. Look at it this way, having forks and spoons did not make Rosie O’Donnell fat. Same logic simplified.
Yes, I have a concealed carry permit and I do carry at least sometimes. I don't go flashing it around and yapping about the fact that I'm "packing". Very few actually do act like that in the real world (as opposed to Hollywood). I would know because in this area lots of people carry concealed handguns yet you NEVER see one being brandished or hear them being bragged about while carrying them.

If you don't want one or believe you don't have the wherewithal to handle the responsibility then fine. Don't have one. Just don't tell ME what to have. I'm a citizen. Are you?

*Hoping a mod comes along and cuts
the personal flames out, rather than
closing down the topic.*

Start with the ones who instigated it in the first place; why should the one retaliating always cop the blame? Seems a bit unfair when certain people can get away with blue murder while others like me have to cop it.

Ah, but as it's the USAWWW here, I shouldn't be surprised.....

The point is that disagreeing is fine,
but the personal attacks are not.

i just gave my view on why i believed the 2nd amendment wasn't relevant in todays society, and why in 2007 private citizens do not need guns when you have a police force who can take care of any crime. I said self defence is not a reason as well, because it creates more problems like getting oneself killed or being charged with murder/manslaughter. Then what do I get? Name calling and paranoia theories on why citizens should are themselves in case of over-zealous governing. I counter this, and what do I get? more abuse. Isn't it any wonder I get sick of their crap and get stuck into them. This isn't a kindergarten you know, it's not 'be nice to the loon with the gun week' or a day-care center to drop off the mentally-inept; it's a forum for discussing issues, and if people resort to bombastic insults such as I have copped, then they will get them back. Fair is fair.