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Select? no.. family? yes



Then why do you deny that there is someone swaying them to do stupid dangerous and flawed things?



Welcome to the world of controlled opposition and information.



I don't know who told you that the Illuminati were jewish space nazi reverse vampires, but they are nothing but psychotic bloodlines that have kept the wealth in the family for thousands of years.. The Illuminati are the ones spreading most of the rumours about themselves to trick people like me and you and confuse us..




Hmm no, you're supposed to believe in nothing but what you're supposed to believe, because you're programmed to believe just that.. you're fed s**t and kept in the dark. It's up to individuals to turn that light on in their head and look deeper then the untrained eye can see.. A secret can never be kept a secret, and they KNOW this, which is why they saturate society with propaganda and lies to sway people in the wrong direction. But if you have it in you to sift through those lies, you can find the right bits of the truth.

That propaganda would not be there at all if there were truly nothing wrong, truly nothing to hide.. When there is THAT much smoke, the fire must come from somewhere.. and you would rather believe that at least a million people around the world are making it up, that have no reason to do so, as I don't.




First of all, you're a 100% hypocrite for telling me all I have is supposition, guesswork and conjecture.. You don't know diddly squat, you just think you do because all of your sources are tied off with pretty little bows. I don't think youtube is irrefutable evidence, but it should be good enough for your type judging by your standards for truth. And wikipedia is s**t, because it's owned by google.. You strongly misrepresent me.



I'm not worried, I have a love for truth, in fact I've been that way my whole life really.. I never lie unless it means life or the streets..

It's not a matter of stopping it single handedly.. but clearly based on your position that it can't be stopped shows the true colors of your heart... you are far more scared than I am little missy, I fear not the enemy, the enemy fears me.. which is why they shot tu-pac, john lennon, malcom x.. I'm the same type that they fear. Someone who, if given the right opportunity, would expose them, and put my life on the line.

You think the world is 'just fine the way it is'.. but you're wrong.. the world is NOT fine and has NOT been fine since the beginning of civilization.. look at all of the s**t, and the wars that have happened.. wars don't happen mutually. Bush funded Hitler during the war.. why?.. because the Bush family is Illuminati related. There are families of psychopaths that can justify their every move.

I dont need to bring solid evidence here.. in fact debating you is pointless because you prefer to be kept in the dark.

no, not surprising, because the same people who make encyclopedias are the ones who made wikipedia.. they are sources of information done by authority figures, who have the power to write history and bloody well invent it.. nope not a surprise one bit..

The people who make Wikipedia are frequently the same 'authority figures' you despise (e.g., math professors and grad students, historians, natives of a country writing about it, etc.)

Two years ago I translated the German Wikipedia article for Sri Indraditya (founder of the Sukhothai kingdom) into English and it grew a lot since then. I'm impressed.

natives of a country?.. where the fuck did you pull that from. I noticed you and other slime like you like to put words n my mouth, because you have no alternative to prove your point.

You can tell by the grammar errors

Point one out then

The last one I saw has been fixed.

Regardless, Wikipedia is written by 'authority figures' that you hate, that much is obvious

i never said any form of surprise in my statement....i said impressive because considering all the minutia articles on wikipedia, to maintain a relatively strong level of accuracy is impressive...not surprising. the people who do that are mostly like the people here...obsessive on the topics.

obsessive doesn't always mean right, however....which is why it's impressive.

The study was conducted by Nature, and reviewed only science articles. In terms of things which don't already contain massive quantities of BS normally, wikipedia is a fairly reliable resource for the casual reader, which the depth of its articles mean pretty much if you're reading it and it's not a bullshitty topic, then it's a good source. All of the professors I've had that have mentioned wikipedia while obviously not taking it as a scholarly source view it as a good source of information.

are you able to find that article? i'm curious about the comparison of number of articles between the two because it seems like wiki goes into more in-depth subjects.

Not unless you're willing to pay through the proboscis.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 8900a.html

In reality (at least as far as math/science goes), Wikipedia tends to be pretty lucid, deep (covers same subject from applied and theoretical angles) and accurate. e.g. they have the features of the Central Limit Theorem that you would see in any undergrad prob/stats text, but also prove it. Many articles are incredible, and I try to reach the same or similar quality on the math wikia with my limited experience.

To an extent, yes. For example, if you want to know what the transformers were called in the new film.. then you're probably on safe ground. Once things get a bit more complicated, its suitable only as a start point for proper research.. akin to reading a magazine article about the Crimean war in the front of a tv guide. Its hardly comprehensive, and probably biased.

Degree courses at british universities do not consider it a viable source.

The best that can be hoped is that its consensus nature allows it to eventually balance out into a broadly accurate encyclopaedia.

Youtube is still a terrible source though. And this whole plot is still unconvincing bollocks.

I often wonder why conspiracy theorists become so angry and irate and confrontational when people do not accept their ideas. Surely if they want us to know "the truth" then swearing and ranting and calling ublind fools just forces them to be an army of one? Being called blind and stupid is not compelling. If anything it is likely to make me more obtuse and unlikely to see the "truth".

Probably because in many cases it's about feeding their own egos - surely at least sometimes it's about convincing themselves that they belong to a super-intelligent, enlightened elite that alone can perceive fundamental truths about the world. But if everyone agreed with them, it would make them ordinary, for an exclusive club can only be exclusive if most people are kept out of it (hence attacking those that disagree in ways that will clearly not persuade them is not a problem); denying that they're right is an attack on their ego, it's telling them 'you're not that smart after all, you're not part of some super-enlightened truth-seeing elite, you're just one more dude downloading s**t from youtube.'
Then some of them must really be completely delusional, and to my knowledge the delusional do not take it kindly when they're flatly contradicted.
Also, consider the fun factor: explaining things by someone messing up, or by obscure & complicated but ordinary causes, is boring compared to elaborate, outlandish plots for world domination by aliens or mutants or whatever, which are the stuff Hollywood dramas, Pinky and the Brain, etc, especially if they get to play the hero. Explanations like 'it's smog', 'X and Y messed up', 'it wasn't aliens, it was just aeronautics tests by the military,' etc interfere with their fun.

^ pbcoll: I think you got it right with the first paragraph; it IS all about ego stroking. What really Pisses me off is people who continue to assert that they're right when their logic is fatally flawed and their facts arent straight............
In general I despise egotists and narcissists, and have next to no tolerance for their obnoxious behaviours.

If it were truly about ego.. then my beliefs would be very static.. I've learned that arguing with you people is useless, and it has nothing.. NOTHING to do with ego.. I am the MOST ego-less person you'll ever meet, so the fact that you make things up this way, shows the fear you really have..



Honestly, if everyone agreed on the truth; WHICH IS.. the world is run by an elite government... if everyone could agree on that, then I might be satisfied.. but watching everyone moan and groan about politics, global warming, aliens (used to be me).. it's a little ret*d. . everyone here is guilty of it, including me, so why tell me that I have an ego.. if you really knew who I was you'd realize that I'm at least ONE of the most honest people you'll meet.. I don't want attention any more then you or the next guy.. the difference is in order to spread truth you need to get some attention..

But I'm done trying to spread it to the likes of you, unless you try and insult me more.. I find you very hypocritical, and very typical.. I dont insult people for not believing, but that's the very thing you do to me.. I'm not sure whether you're genuinely mislead, or whether you are really an agent until you wake up, like Alan Watt thinks. . weird.. you sure act like it.



Look in the mirror.. LOL.. none of you like it when you're contradicted, which is why you all come flying to the honey when anything regarding conspiracy is involved.. you're good at describing your own qualities, but fail to understand mine..


I don't believe in aliens one bit, in fact I've discovered that this is part of the alien agenda, to spread more lies and mislead people, like me.. but I've got passed it now, and my conscience is clearer.. you're always running into road blocks when you're looking for the truth, so what makes you think you have it when you don't even look further than the media? The media is the single biggest road block, but people don't like making decisions and thinking for themselves.. they assume the elites will do it for them, which is exactly what they are doing, and exactly why you are being controlled.. if you control the thoughts of the man, then you control the man.