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18 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm
18 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm
18 Feb 2023, 5:44 pm
Josh68 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
What’s keeping you on the side of the Russians?
Look, if you say something that factually incorrect, I will correct it. I'm on the side of truth. I'm on the side of a negotiated peace before more corpses pile up. The truth is there is a Nazi element in the Military. That's not saying it's a Nazi government, alright? I'm against all invasions of this sort.
I'm trying to be nice, but you're making it increasingly difficult.
Yes, there are Neo-Nazi elements on the Ukraine side, but in what proportion?
There are Neo-Nazi elements on the Russian side, but in what proportion?
There are Neo-Nazi elements in Amerria, Australia, the UK, Italy, Germany, etc, etc...
Are we good now?
18 Feb 2023, 5:46 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
You don’t think there’s a neo-Nazi element in the Russian army?
I’m always nice…..no matter what.
It’s not a fact that there were Ukrainian soldiers lined up along the Russian border. There was no reason, as far as I’m concerned, for the Russians to invade Ukraine.
Your “niceness” or “nastiness” to me won’t affect how I feel about the situation.
I’m always nice…..no matter what.
It’s not a fact that there were Ukrainian soldiers lined up along the Russian border. There was no reason, as far as I’m concerned, for the Russians to invade Ukraine.
Your “niceness” or “nastiness” to me won’t affect how I feel about the situation.
You are Wrong Planet's "Huggy Bear".
Hoo doesn't know that?
18 Feb 2023, 5:49 pm
Josh68 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
You don’t think there’s a neo-Nazi element in the Russian army?
I’m always nice…..no matter what.
It’s not a fact that there were Ukrainian soldiers lined up along the Russian border. There was no reason, as far as I’m concerned, for the Russians to invade Ukraine.
Your “niceness” or “nastiness” to me won’t affect how I feel about the situation.
I’m always nice…..no matter what.
It’s not a fact that there were Ukrainian soldiers lined up along the Russian border. There was no reason, as far as I’m concerned, for the Russians to invade Ukraine.
Your “niceness” or “nastiness” to me won’t affect how I feel about the situation.
No, as far as I know there are no neo Nazis in the Russian army. They are, of course, following the orders of an authoritarian leader.
Oh, doooood!
You need to research more.
18 Feb 2023, 5:56 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
I haven’t made any “ridiculous” assumptions. I’ve made very conventional “assumptions,” actually.
Your pro-Russia stance is quite evident. So what? My pro-Ukrainian stance is also evident. I don’t dispute that you don’t care for the “accumulation of corpses” and are not for all the carnage. That you want peace. Most clear-thinking people want peace.
Condescension is frequently a manifestation of an attempt to gain the rhetorical advantage. I don’t respond to it. I’m not deterred by it. I’ve had enough of it in the course of my life.
Your pro-Russia stance is quite evident. So what? My pro-Ukrainian stance is also evident. I don’t dispute that you don’t care for the “accumulation of corpses” and are not for all the carnage. That you want peace. Most clear-thinking people want peace.
Condescension is frequently a manifestation of an attempt to gain the rhetorical advantage. I don’t respond to it. I’m not deterred by it. I’ve had enough of it in the course of my life.
I thought I was hiding my Pro-Ukrainian stance well.
I wonder "what gave the game away"?
"Glory to Ukraine!", Hooah!
18 Feb 2023, 6:02 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Some concerns over media censorship in Ukraine over
1, Corruption and abuse of foreign aid
https://time.com/6249941/ukraine-corrup ... ky-russia/
2. Using civilians as human shields
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/04/11157568 ... se-to-civi
3. Spread of nazism in Ukraine
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohe ... SKBN1GV2TY
It starts to look suspicious when a foreign government attacks amnesty international which is usually a sign they are desperately trying to cover up human rights violations.
1, Corruption and abuse of foreign aid
https://time.com/6249941/ukraine-corrup ... ky-russia/
2. Using civilians as human shields
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/04/11157568 ... se-to-civi
3. Spread of nazism in Ukraine
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohe ... SKBN1GV2TY
It starts to look suspicious when a foreign government attacks amnesty international which is usually a sign they are desperately trying to cover up human rights violations.
It is well known that corruption is a problem in Ukraine, yes.
It is being worked on in order to maintain continued international support.
But don't forget who the villain is.
His name starts with "poo" and ends with "tin".
You got it: "Putler".
18 Feb 2023, 6:11 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
I wasn’t responding to you, Pepe. That should be obvious, since you evidently express a pro-Ukraine stance.
I didn't think you were.
I was simply curious about who you were replying to.
I do wonder why you can't quote part of the post you are replying to.
I am guessing you are using a phone and that may make things more difficult.
But I do wonder why you can't simply add "@Pepe" beforehand, as an example, my huggy bear.
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18 Feb 2023, 6:22 pm
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I wasn’t responding to you, Pepe. That should be obvious, since you evidently express a pro-Ukraine stance.
I didn't think you were.
I was simply curious about who you were replying to.
I do wonder why you can't quote part of the post you are replying to.
I am guessing you are using a phone and that may make things more difficult.
But I do wonder why you can't simply add "@Pepe" beforehand, as an example, my huggy bear.
Kraftie was responding to Josh68, the immediately previous post.
Aka the poster insisting they're not pro-Russian but also very much opposed to Ukraine continuing to defend their country from Russia.
18 Feb 2023, 6:51 pm
18 Feb 2023, 6:55 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I wasn’t responding to you, Pepe. That should be obvious, since you evidently express a pro-Ukraine stance.
I didn't think you were.
I was simply curious about who you were replying to.
I do wonder why you can't quote part of the post you are replying to.
I am guessing you are using a phone and that may make things more difficult.
But I do wonder why you can't simply add "@Pepe" beforehand, as an example, my huggy bear.
Kraftie was responding to Josh68, the immediately previous post.
Aka the poster insisting they're not pro-Russian but also very much opposed to Ukraine continuing to defend their country from Russia.
I never said I was opposed to the Ukraine defending their country. You need to reread what I've written in this thread.
Last edited by Josh68 on 18 Feb 2023, 7:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
18 Feb 2023, 6:58 pm
Pepe wrote:
It is well known that corruption is a problem in Ukraine, yes.
It is being worked on in order to maintain continued international support.
But don't forget who the villain is.
His name starts with "poo" and ends with "tin".
You got it: "Putler".
It is being worked on in order to maintain continued international support.
But don't forget who the villain is.
His name starts with "poo" and ends with "tin".
You got it: "Putler".
Putin is beginning to resemble Saddam Hussein and we all know the propaganda and media manipulation over the Iraq war. It is naive to think that removing Putin (or Xi in China for that matter) will resolve underlying problems where there is regional tension like Ukraine or Taiwan.
The silly censorship of Russian sportsmen at the Australian Open left many of us bewildered that even the Australian government is participating in this exercise.
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18 Feb 2023, 7:12 pm
Josh68 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I wasn’t responding to you, Pepe. That should be obvious, since you evidently express a pro-Ukraine stance.
I didn't think you were.
I was simply curious about who you were replying to.
I do wonder why you can't quote part of the post you are replying to.
I am guessing you are using a phone and that may make things more difficult.
But I do wonder why you can't simply add "@Pepe" beforehand, as an example, my huggy bear.
Kraftie was responding to Josh68, the immediately previous post.
Aka the poster insisting they're not pro-Russian but also very much opposed to Ukraine continuing to defend their country from Russia.
I never said I was opposed to the Ukraine defending their country. Learn some reading comprehension skills.
Of course not, you don't need to directly say it when you just try to criticize the legitimacy of that defence while presenting excuses for Russia's behaviour. Of course, when this is noticed you claim to be opposed to invasions while still continuing the same pattern of behaviour.
18 Feb 2023, 7:26 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Josh68 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I wasn’t responding to you, Pepe. That should be obvious, since you evidently express a pro-Ukraine stance.
I didn't think you were.
I was simply curious about who you were replying to.
I do wonder why you can't quote part of the post you are replying to.
I am guessing you are using a phone and that may make things more difficult.
But I do wonder why you can't simply add "@Pepe" beforehand, as an example, my huggy bear.
Kraftie was responding to Josh68, the immediately previous post.
Aka the poster insisting they're not pro-Russian but also very much opposed to Ukraine continuing to defend their country from Russia.
I never said I was opposed to the Ukraine defending their country. Learn some reading comprehension skills.
Of course not, you don't need to directly say it when you just try to criticize the legitimacy of that defence while presenting excuses for Russia's behaviour. Of course, when this is noticed you claim to be opposed to invasions while still continuing the same pattern of behaviour.
Yeah, I refuse to be baited by those who are not interested in having an honest exchange of ideas on a given topic.
You have a wonderful evening!
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