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Around 20,000 Ukrainian troops are attending an intensive 5 week course in military combat in the UK under the watchful eye of King Charles

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-64709125

I live in the UK, and I don't blame Ukranian refugees for feeling that way.

It's amazing that even in a thread about the Russia-Ukraine conflict, you still want to shift the focus on to black and brown 'victimhood', while you attack white people for the 'crime' of preferring to live around people who are more similar to themselves.

It honestly sickens me that you come out with this filth and then act as if you have the moral high ground.

I take it from this that you still believe the Russians blew up their own pipeline.

I don't know what's more remarkable: cyberdad using this of all threads to spread his usual "bad whites oppressing poor blacks & browns" propaganda, or your continuing refusal to ever question an establishment narrative about anything.

Yes, he is a typical pro-RT journalist.

I don't see why I need to pay 30-40% more for my cost of living to support these Ukrainians when they don't deserve it. I also wonder what is so special about them when there are other people suffering in the world.

filth?

I didn't sense any nazism or fullfledge racism here, they're just a nation not used to ethnical diversity at all, indeed Ukraine is very white. They remind me of Japan.

As for Muslims and Islamphobia, honestly? I don't blame non-Mulisms to fear Islamic terrorisms, some Muslim communities as a whole, with their aggression and their intolerence narrative have earned islamophobia; then they wonder why other peoples fear them. And the UK in particular is notorious to embrace Muslim Brotherhood/Salafi figures as refugees/migrants, the kind of Islamists that even their home Muslim countries are struggling to accommodate them.

Here's what a Ukrainian journalist wrote of the spread of the far right in Ukraine
Far-right radicals and extremist street activities are having a serious impact on everyday life and societal development in the country. Particularly worrying is their use of violence in an attempt to restrict the expression of views they consider unacceptable in Ukraine.
https://freedomhouse.org/report/analyti ... -democracy

He goes on to say -those interested in the democratic development of Ukraine, including human rights activists and experts, should draw public and media attention to the real and existing problem of far-right extremism. Civil society should form a broad coalition in support of groups and activists who are being attacked by the far right. Regardless of people’s attitudes toward the ideologies of groups attacked by radicals, they have the right to freely express their opinions.

Are they really worse than other Eastern European nations, such as Russia, Poland, Czech Republic, Georgia, Romania, Hungary, Serbia ...etc?

These nations have been quite known for...racism. And correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Far right on the rise in many western countries as well?

I agree with this. Ukraine is fighting a proxy war on behalf of the whole of Europe and paying a mighty price for it. We have no business begrudging them any means to do this and if they succeed in holding back Russia and the whole fiasco doesn't descend into global conflict, we'll continue to owe them a debt for our lifetimes.

But it isn't even just Europe. China is watching this play out closely and the result will have a massive impact on their foreign policy for the future. Expansionist, authoritarian regimes need to see this fail, and badly, if geopolitics is going to settle down a bit.

We are privileged to be able to pay for this war in money, not our lives.

Back on track with this comment. Totally agree.

Your brand of ethnic nationalism is much closer to the "establishment" in the UK than my brand of globalist liberalism.

If you read the article I posted there is a common thread in specific eastern European countries where far right thugs are permitted to intimidate groups. It's not just Ukraine. Orban in Hungary and Duda in Poland covertly encourage far ethnonationalism in relation to immigration, refugees, gay and women's rights. In all three countries women's groups or gay rights activists are attacked in streets while police look the other way.

A unresolved issue from the Russian invasion is when African and south Asian refugees crossed the border from Ukraine into Poland they were hunted and attacked by Polish far right militia.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... tionalists

That Ukrainians who are also refugees demand apartheid when seeking refuge is perhaps an indication of a more widespread problem in ethnonationalism that has not been resolved since WWII when Ukraine openly sided with the Nazis

It's not the first time, During the breakup of Yugoslavia, Croatian far right groups were also encouraged by far right leaders in the Croatian independence movement which again, the population had not come to terms with their Nazi past.

Geez... in the last elections, far right in Ukraine took whole 2% votes. That's much less than in many West European countries.
There was an incident of (likely Kremlin-sponsored) "nationalists" who attacked non-European refugees in Poland - and they were universally condemned, arrested and jailed.
We have our problems but systemic racism here is not worse than in most of Western countries - in some aspects likely lower because of our generally exogamous culture.

But apparently you just want to believe in pootin's fairy-tales about "nazis taking over".

Personally, I think we should concentrate on the pootin monster who initiated the invasion of Ukraine and is responsible for the torture, rape, deportation, and murder of innocent civilians.

BTW, Putin in his recent speech, corrupted the Truth, (revisionism at its finest) and stated it was Ukraine that started the war.
I wonder why ppl think pootin has no credibility?

I hope I am in the wrong, but watching Russia today pictures of Ukraine battalion with Ukraine flags and swastikas, I doubt they are that good people.
Zelensky made a image of good leader, sure, but lets not forget he is still a politician, no less corrupt than what Ukraine was when they had pro Russian president. The civil war was mainly probably incited by oppression of Russians in Ukraine.
Western media made it a major talk point to minimize the idea of ultra nationalists in Ukraine, but let me tell you hypothetical scenario that most people don't want to consider. Again hope I am wrong, but Ukraine sovereign nation might turn into a ultra nationalist nation once they replace Zelensky. It will be no different from Russia oligarchy.
They will then refuse NATO and EU, and the leader who ever he maybe, will be just another mafia boss we fought for, because "good moral reasons" and ethnic tensions and oppression will just be the same.
We should not subscribe to wishful thinking just because we like to believe the world is black and white. That kind of autistic thinking does not work in real world and not in politics.

I also don't understand the obsessive apologetic for Ukraine racism, be it moderate or anything else.
Truly they are not racist the lot. But the west has taken an extreme position too.
For sake of truth there are neo nazi elements in every government in Europe, is it really different in Ukraine?