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09 Mar 2023, 3:04 pm

carlos55 wrote:

There are no Ukrainian positions for miles around.

False. They are right across the river. And a high voltage line - likely the last remaining one IAEA speaks about - also goes... straight across the river. From the plant right to Ukrainian-controlled territorry.
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https://www.flosm.de/en/powergrid.html? ... linedchigh
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https://liveuamap.com/en

All that had to happen was damage to this line.
Nothing extraordinary about this, given the circumstances.

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09 Mar 2023, 3:18 pm

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carlos55 wrote:

There are no Ukrainian positions for miles around.

Even if that was true who shelled the high voltage line and why do they always imply Russia is shelling the power plant under its own control in this and other articles.

But that is not what the paragraph implies anyway:-

“ The Russian-held Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant earlier lost its last external power line after the latest Russian missile strikes.”

Basically Someone would read that as Russian cruise missile strikes directly caused loss of the power line meaning they brought it down so like I say lots of deception going on.

Don’t get me wrong Russia claiming they don’t target civilians but launching missiles at civilian targets is their deception.

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09 Mar 2023, 3:27 pm

carlos55 wrote:

Even if that was true who shelled the high voltage line and why do they always imply Russia is shelling the power plant under its own control in this and other articles.

But that is not what the paragraph implies anyway:-

“ The Russian-held Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant earlier lost its last external power line after the latest Russian missile strikes.”there

Basically Someone would read that as Russian cruise missile strikes directly caused loss of the power line meaning they brought it down so like I say lots of deception going on.

Don’t get me wrong Russia claiming they don’t target civilians but launching missiles at civilian targets is their deception.

Haven't you noticed?

No one shelled the power plant.

Russians shelled the power grid all over Ukraine last night, including Kyiv and even some locations in Lviv District, some 150 km from Polish border. Like they did almost every week in the autumn. Probably they collected enough missiles again.

A high voltage line goes from the Zaporozhia plant, across Dnipro river, right to Ukrainian-held territory, and then further into it. It could be damaged anywhere in its 90 km length from Marivka right against the plant to Bozhedarivka, where, according to https://www.flosm.de/en/powergrid.html? ... linedchigh the line forks - or even further away, if both branches beyond the fork took damage.

Again: No one shelled the plant itself. We would have known if someone did (even if maybe we would not know who). It would have made headlines all over Europe.
But no one did.

And look at a map, where the plant is relative to the frontline. No one is trying to move armies across all that water but a high voltage line goes exactly there.

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09 Mar 2023, 5:27 pm

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If I stopped reading or watching, red-faced and puffing, every time I saw or heard something I disagreed with, I'd be quite ignorant indeed. But that is your loss.

A logical nonsense.
My avoiding unreliable sources does not mean I do not review reliable ones.
Avoiding time-wasting videos gives me more time to watch more credible information.

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09 Mar 2023, 5:35 pm

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There is a lot of propaganda and lies about this war said by both sides, that I even as a genetic and national outsider can notice.

Do you seriously believe pootin has ANY credibility?

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09 Mar 2023, 7:09 pm

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A logical nonsense.
My avoiding unreliable sources does not mean I do not review reliable ones.
Avoiding time-wasting videos gives me more time to watch more credible information.

It is never a waste of time to hear an opinion that opposes yours, it can do nothing but help if Truth is actually what you seek. Also, even if you disagree with one section of the video that does not mean everything else in it is therefore unworthy of attention. It is your uncomfortable emotional response to an opposing view that you very much dislike that is preventing you from watching - you are just rationalising it as time-wasting and "not credible". Live what you preach, Pepe.

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I am a fan of maintaining an open mind, considering both sides, and searching for the Truth.

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09 Mar 2023, 7:30 pm

IMO, it's another deliberate Vietnam for the M.I.C. to funnel money into itself over, as well as other things like attempting holodomor via reducing food supply.

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09 Mar 2023, 9:59 pm

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Missiles strike Kyiv, Odesa; war with Russian disinformation – #MriyaReport founder on Rock Rachon
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Air raid alarms sounded around Ukraine on Thursday morning as Russian kamikaze drones and missiles struck cities including the capital Kyiv, the Black Sea port of Odesa, and Kharkiv. The founder of „Mriya Report” Mr. Joseph Friedberg joins us on this episode of „Rock Rachon” to talk about this attack – the biggest against Ukrainian energy and civil infrastructure in weeks. We also discuss the ramifications of the Russian missiles that struck Ukraine flying over territories of third-party countries. Mr. Friedberg also talks with us about the ongoing war against Russian disinformation.

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10 Mar 2023, 3:48 am

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10 Mar 2023, 3:03 pm

Here`s some YouTube junk news, looks like WW3 has just started LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTbpmuSOW-E

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10 Mar 2023, 7:55 pm

Pathetic Russian Propaganda.
The patch was Photo Shopped over.
And it wasn't even a Leopard tank. :roll: :mrgreen:

Was this meant to be found out and created by pro-Ukraine sympathisers?
Hoo knows? :scratch:

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10 Mar 2023, 8:13 pm

Pepe wrote:

For those who are accusing Ammmmeria, best not to watch this video (Mikah) :mrgreen:

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Breaking News: Did Ukraine blow up North Stream?
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That NYT article was utterly hilarious! Talk about a blatant piece of CIA propaganda.

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10 Mar 2023, 11:05 pm

InTheWild wrote:

Pepe wrote:

For those who are accusing Ammmmeria, best not to watch this video (Mikah) :mrgreen:

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Breaking News: Did Ukraine blow up North Stream?
Military & History
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That NYT article was utterly hilarious! Talk about a blatant piece of CIA propaganda.

Thank you, Mr 8 posts. :mrgreen:

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10 Mar 2023, 11:34 pm

Pepe wrote:

InTheWild wrote:

Pepe wrote:

For those who are accusing Ammmmeria, best not to watch this video (Mikah) :mrgreen:

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Breaking News: Did Ukraine blow up North Stream?
Military & History
24.6K subscribers
3,983 views Mar 8, 2023

That NYT article was utterly hilarious! Talk about a blatant piece of CIA propaganda.

Thank you, Mr 8 posts. :mrgreen:

You're welcome. I'm always happy to enlighten.

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