It's stupid when feminists say that porn is misogynistic

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Most people have a type of music, or even just one song that they think is crap. By thinking that something is crap, you implicitly think the people that like it have bad taste when it comes to that particular aspect of taste. It's not saying they have bad taste in general.

Some genres/songs you might be 'meh' about, so you don't think that people who like them have bad taste in that instance, but passionate people (or opinionated a***holes like me) tend to find something crap at some point in their life.

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Also, I think women and receptive gay men sometimes do this thing I call sexual self-destructiveness. It's like normal self-destructiveness but involves people doing sexual things to you that you really don't enjoy and are psychologically damaging to you; you let them do it anyway because hate yourself. I've asked my ex to basically punch my lights out, not for sexual reasons, but because I was very, very depressed. He didn't do it because he's not an abusive person who would enjoy doing that sort of thing.

I'm not saying that this is the same thing as BDSM and genuinely getting pleasure out submissiveness and masochism, but I do know that it's definitely a thing and people do have demeaning sex because they hate themselves.

I guess I just worry about how widespread sexual self-destructiveness is because it's a saddening thing to think about for me, for all sorts of personal reasons. I don't think a lot of straight men understand it because sex is usually at least a tiny bit pleasurable for them and the vast majority seem to have this attitude to sex that if it's not pleasurable for them on some level, it's not worth doing. That's my attitude as well but I've always felt pressure to have another one.

Also, the obligatory clarification I'm going to make is that this doesn't mean that I want to stop people making vomit porn, or anything like that - I'm just saying why I question their motives sometimes.

But what is "genuine" pleasure? You need to be careful not to stray into "no true Scotsman" territory.

The question is, if you met a lady who was into puking on cocks and said that she really likes it because she likes to be submissive, would you believe her or would you think she was covering up mental health issues? There's something patronising about taking the latter position, even if you might sometimes be right.

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I would believe her unless I knew she was full of it. Never met such a person, yet.

Well you probably haven't met a person who brings up "I love puking on cocks" as a topic of conversation, but the odds are pretty high that you have met a genuine cock-puke-lover at some point.

I don't think the odds are high at all, but neither of us can prove it one way or the other.

There probably isn't much evidence, but maybe that's not the interesting part. Maybe the interesting part is that it there could never be enough evidence to satisfy a person who tends to chalk it up to mental illness.

You say that you would believe a single person unless "you knew they were full of it". But how could you possibly know whether they were full of it? The look in their eyes, or something?

Suppose there was an anonymous poll where 2% of women claim that they genuinely like puking on cocks. Would you believe the poll? After all, it's well-known that weird psychological effects can even affect the answers given on an anonymous poll. Maybe they don't really like it, they just lie to themselves that they like it.

At some point, you just have to believe what people tell you about their own motivations. It's common courtesy.

I wouldn't mind saying that people with vomit fetish or fetish for eating crap are psychologically disturbed. No need for this political correctness.

I meant if I knew the person and knew they were full of s**t (I do know such people), then I wouldn't believe them. What I was saying was that I was more likely to believe them than not.

I'd believe the poll if it came from a reputable source.

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I get the Sexual Inquisition on my case all the time. Unlike the Spanish Inquisition, it's something you come to expect.

We currently have a shortage of psychiatrists in Denmark. Perhaps I should put up a recruitment ad in this thread, as they apparently grow on trees here.

I see I hit a nerve.

How many pages has the discussion of such fetishes been going on for. That sounds disgusting.

Some people like to drink other people's blood. Other people are sexually aroused by graveyards.

Um, it's not the Sexual Inquisition. It's more like the Sexual Anti-Fascists. Actually, the Sexual Inquisition would be judging you for your own interest in abnormal pornography.

"First they came for the cock-pukers, but I did nothing because I am not a cock-puker..."

I'd be a sexual fascist if I went out calling to persecute the cock-pukers, instead of just wondering if they were a bit loco (and I admit to being a bit loco myself.)

It is much more like a Sexual Inquisition because you are basically giving me an endless stream of questions to root out my heretic beliefs about sex.

I happen to think a lot of religious people have mental health problems ranging in severity from mild OCD to being psychopaths, depending on how extreme they are (and I think this because I used to be a religious person and I'm crazy.) I bet I'd get much less hassle if I posted, 'I sometimes wonder if Christian fundamentalists are crazy.' You can't say religion is not a fundamental part of humanity like sex is because whilst we haven't been doing it as long as sex, we've been doing it as long as we've been able to talk as a species and possibly even longer.