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06 Feb 2017, 8:57 pm

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Ezra/\How do you know they are SJW's and not just plain old as*holes?Large cities have plenty of street kids that like to break things becuse they are angry,not because of politics.
I'll agree that the extreme SJW can be annoying,especially on "cultural appropriation."
I could care less if a white male has dreadlocks and is wearing a kimono.
People shouldn't judge the whole movement becuse some jerks got out of hand.There was a majority of peaceful protestors,you don't see all that becuse it's more exciting to film and watch a blazing limo.


Symbiosis.

Mutualism,commensalism or parasitism?


A symbiotic relationship occurs when two organisms, individuals or groups of people work together. That is all.

There are three types of symbiosis,it mostly involves lichens not people.Mutalism is where both benefit,commensalism is where they exist without benefiting or harming another and the last,parasitism is where one species is harmful to the other.Have you taken biology yet?
Anarchists don't benefit the resistance,they also don't help it,rather cause harm.So the relationship of the anarchist to peaceful protest would be more of a parasitic type.


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06 Feb 2017, 9:31 pm

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According to what I've been told by their apologists, "they're all tainted". "Birds of a feather". Their words.


Yes indeedi! birds of a particular feather do flock together

http://www.barking-moonbat.com/index.ph ... ump_becau/


The type of sites you browse explains a lot.


Usually difficult to find given the KKK and their "friends" like to hide behind sheets or computers to throw their rather "ugly" point of view. One which you (correct me if I'm wrong) seem quite comfortable with tolerating.



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06 Feb 2017, 10:37 pm

Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Ezra/\How do you know they are SJW's and not just plain old as*holes?Large cities have plenty of street kids that like to break things becuse they are angry,not because of politics.
I'll agree that the extreme SJW can be annoying,especially on "cultural appropriation."
I could care less if a white male has dreadlocks and is wearing a kimono.
People shouldn't judge the whole movement becuse some jerks got out of hand.There was a majority of peaceful protestors,you don't see all that becuse it's more exciting to film and watch a blazing limo.


Symbiosis.

Mutualism,commensalism or parasitism?


A symbiotic relationship occurs when two organisms, individuals or groups of people work together. That is all.

There are three types of symbiosis,it mostly involves lichens not people.Mutalism is where both benefit,commensalism is where they exist without benefiting or harming another and the last,parasitism is where one species is harmful to the other.Have you taken biology yet?
Anarchists don't benefit the resistance,they also don't help it,rather cause harm.So the relationship of the anarchist to peaceful protest would be more of a parasitic type.


This is politics not biology. Individuals or groups of people who work together is the only germane application.



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06 Feb 2017, 10:42 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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According to what I've been told by their apologists, "they're all tainted". "Birds of a feather". Their words.


Yes indeedi! birds of a particular feather do flock together

http://www.barking-moonbat.com/index.ph ... ump_becau/


The type of sites you browse explains a lot.


Usually difficult to find given the KKK and their "friends" like to hide behind sheets or computers to throw their rather "ugly" point of view. One which you (correct me if I'm wrong) seem quite comfortable with tolerating.


There's lots of nutjob sensationalist websites out there, I don't take them seriously.



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06 Feb 2017, 11:16 pm

EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Ezra/\How do you know they are SJW's and not just plain old as*holes?Large cities have plenty of street kids that like to break things becuse they are angry,not because of politics.
I'll agree that the extreme SJW can be annoying,especially on "cultural appropriation."
I could care less if a white male has dreadlocks and is wearing a kimono.
People shouldn't judge the whole movement becuse some jerks got out of hand.There was a majority of peaceful protestors,you don't see all that becuse it's more exciting to film and watch a blazing limo.


Symbiosis.

Mutualism,commensalism or parasitism?


A symbiotic relationship occurs when two organisms, individuals or groups of people work together. That is all.

There are three types of symbiosis,it mostly involves lichens not people.Mutalism is where both benefit,commensalism is where they exist without benefiting or harming another and the last,parasitism is where one species is harmful to the other.Have you taken biology yet?
Anarchists don't benefit the resistance,they also don't help it,rather cause harm.So the relationship of the anarchist to peaceful protest would be more of a parasitic type.


This is politics not biology. Individuals or groups of people who work together is the only germane application.

Well duh.Thought I was back in bio class.
I asked you to define how you were using symbiosis.There are at least three applications of the word,and since you seem to be unable to differentiate which one was applicable I did so,politically.
Again,anarchism would be the parasitism form of symbiosis in a crowd of peaceful protestors .They are NOT working togethers,but at odds.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis


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06 Feb 2017, 11:53 pm

Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Ezra/\How do you know they are SJW's and not just plain old as*holes?Large cities have plenty of street kids that like to break things becuse they are angry,not because of politics.
I'll agree that the extreme SJW can be annoying,especially on "cultural appropriation."
I could care less if a white male has dreadlocks and is wearing a kimono.
People shouldn't judge the whole movement becuse some jerks got out of hand.There was a majority of peaceful protestors,you don't see all that becuse it's more exciting to film and watch a blazing limo.


Symbiosis.

Mutualism,commensalism or parasitism?


A symbiotic relationship occurs when two organisms, individuals or groups of people work together. That is all.

There are three types of symbiosis,it mostly involves lichens not people.Mutalism is where both benefit,commensalism is where they exist without benefiting or harming another and the last,parasitism is where one species is harmful to the other.Have you taken biology yet?
Anarchists don't benefit the resistance,they also don't help it,rather cause harm.So the relationship of the anarchist to peaceful protest would be more of a parasitic type.


This is politics not biology. Individuals or groups of people who work together is the only germane application.

Well duh.Thought I was back in bio class.
I asked you to define how you were using symbiosis.There are at least three applications of the word,and since you seem to be unable to differentiate which one was applicable I did so,politically.
Again,anarchism would be the parasitism form of symbiosis in a crowd of peaceful protestors .They are NOT working togethers,but at odds.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis


You're trying to apply biological definitions of symbiosis to political symbiosis. The Wikipedia article you are appealing to does not cover political symbiosis. However applied that way I am saying mutualism as opposed to parasitism.
It seems like you want to imply that overall anti-Trump protesting in its many different forms doesn't exist as a whole. That only what you perceive to be peaceful demonstrations apply and every other variant is separate and inapplicable to the overall phenomenon.

For example, you are saying this kid belongs to some completely separate organization that has nothing to do with anti-Trump protesters.



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07 Feb 2017, 3:41 am

Have to agree with the kid

symbiosis in a biological sense means a mutually benificial relationship but more like a "Borg" (Star Trek) where the original symbionts are no longer recognisable.



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07 Feb 2017, 4:20 am

I should have used a synonym like alliance, so you folks didn't end up getting confused thinking back to something learned in school decades ago or old Star Trek episodes.



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07 Feb 2017, 5:04 am

EzraS wrote:
I should have used a synonym like alliance, so you folks didn't end up getting confused thinking back to something learned in school decades ago or old Star Trek episodes.


So Arizona must have very few muslims Ezra? I would have thought its a great place to send middle eastern refugees given the wide open spaces and that the landscape might make people less homesick given it looks a lot like much of Arabia. Why not send them to your neck of the woods?



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07 Feb 2017, 8:23 am

cyberdad wrote:
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I should have used a synonym like alliance, so you folks didn't end up getting confused thinking back to something learned in school decades ago or old Star Trek episodes.


So Arizona must have very few muslims Ezra? I would have thought its a great place to send middle eastern refugees given the wide open spaces and that the landscape might make people less homesick given it looks a lot like much of Arabia. Why not send them to your neck of the woods?


I don't live in Arizona. I live in Snohomish County, Washington. However, I was raised in Las Vegas, Nevada up until 2014.

Las Vegas was quite multicultural as you can imagine and has quite a large Hispanic population. Including my Aunt Clarissa, who was born in the Dominican Republic. I also had a Mexican uncle (who passed away) and have three half Mexican half African American step-cousins. Oh yeah, my main cousin who's my age that I've been raised with and lives with us is half Japanese. One of my favorite teachers is a Muslim immigrant. So is one of my doctors.

I was never in favor of the ban. I just think Trump did it for the reasons he stated, rather than it being a conspiracy involving golf courses or whatever.



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07 Feb 2017, 9:27 am

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Have to agree with the kid

symbiosis in a biological sense means a mutually benificial relationship but more like a "Borg" (Star Trek) where the original symbionts are no longer recognisable.

No,becuse it isn't always mutually beneficial.


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07 Feb 2017, 9:42 am

EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Ezra/\How do you know they are SJW's and not just plain old as*holes?Large cities have plenty of street kids that like to break things becuse they are angry,not because of politics.
I'll agree that the extreme SJW can be annoying,especially on "cultural appropriation."
I could care less if a white male has dreadlocks and is wearing a kimono.
People shouldn't judge the whole movement becuse some jerks got out of hand.There was a majority of peaceful protestors,you don't see all that becuse it's more exciting to film and watch a blazing limo.


Symbiosis.

Mutualism,commensalism or parasitism?


A symbiotic relationship occurs when two organisms, individuals or groups of people work together. That is all.

There are three types of symbiosis,it mostly involves lichens not people.Mutalism is where both benefit,commensalism is where they exist without benefiting or harming another and the last,parasitism is where one species is harmful to the other.Have you taken biology yet?
Anarchists don't benefit the resistance,they also don't help it,rather cause harm.So the relationship of the anarchist to peaceful protest would be more of a parasitic type.


This is politics not biology. Individuals or groups of people who work together is the only germane application.

Well duh.Thought I was back in bio class.
I asked you to define how you were using symbiosis.There are at least three applications of the word,and since you seem to be unable to differentiate which one was applicable I did so,politically.
Again,anarchism would be the parasitism form of symbiosis in a crowd of peaceful protestors .They are NOT working togethers,but at odds.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis


You're trying to apply biological definitions of symbiosis to political symbiosis. The Wikipedia article you are appealing to does not cover political symbiosis. However applied that way I am saying mutualism as opposed to parasitism.
It seems like you want to imply that overall anti-Trump protesting in its many different forms doesn't exist as a whole. That only what you perceive to be peaceful demonstrations apply and every other variant is separate and inapplicable to the overall phenomenon.

For example, you are saying this kid belongs to some completely separate organization that has nothing to do with anti-Trump protesters.


Nope,I never said that.Sure the anarchist are just one variable in many,but they are not the whole.Anarchist and peaceful protestors are two different groups.The anarchist have a separate agenda,it's not or ever has been very peaceful.Again you try to lump it all together.True they may have a mutual dislike for the president but they are not working together as a unit.
https://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/aworldin ... cpolitics/
I'd hardly call that kid a protestor more like a delinquent.Hes probably parroting what his parents said and had no idea what was going on.Maybe he's a budding pyro.
Since you don't like your age brought into discussion I find it amusing of you to mention what people learned decades ago or on old tv shows.No confusion here.


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07 Feb 2017, 11:13 am

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Nope,I never said that.Sure the anarchist are just one variable in many,but they are not the whole.Anarchist and peaceful protestors are two different groups.The anarchist have a separate agenda,it's not or ever has been very peaceful.Again you try to lump it all together.True they may have a mutual dislike for the president but they are not working together as a unit.
https://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/aworldin ... cpolitics/
I'd hardly call that kid a protestor more like a delinquent.Hes probably parroting what his parents said and had no idea what was going on.Maybe he's a budding pyro.
Since you don't like your age brought into discussion I find it amusing of you to mention what people learned decades ago or on old tv shows.No confusion here.


Okay.



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07 Feb 2017, 12:03 pm

I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but this fact is a burr under my saddle: Steve Bannon had gone out of his way to personally include people with visas and green cards in the travel ban. What a despicable man.


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07 Feb 2017, 12:39 pm

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I have instructed Homeland Security to check people coming into our country VERY CAREFULLY. The courts are making the job very difficult!


Isn't this harassment?



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07 Feb 2017, 8:34 pm

EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
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I should have used a synonym like alliance, so you folks didn't end up getting confused thinking back to something learned in school decades ago or old Star Trek episodes.


So Arizona must have very few muslims Ezra? I would have thought its a great place to send middle eastern refugees given the wide open spaces and that the landscape might make people less homesick given it looks a lot like much of Arabia. Why not send them to your neck of the woods?


I don't live in Arizona. I live in Snohomish County, Washington. However, I was raised in Las Vegas, Nevada up until 2014.

Las Vegas was quite multicultural as you can imagine and has quite a large Hispanic population. Including my Aunt Clarissa, who was born in the Dominican Republic. I also had a Mexican uncle (who passed away) and have three half Mexican half African American step-cousins. Oh yeah, my main cousin who's my age that I've been raised with and lives with us is half Japanese. One of my favorite teachers is a Muslim immigrant. So is one of my doctors.

I was never in favor of the ban. I just think Trump did it for the reasons he stated, rather than it being a conspiracy involving golf courses or whatever.

Very interesting! I completely forgot Vegas is in Arizona!