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21 Nov 2020, 5:43 pm

Yeah the rioters take breaks off and on, but still seems consistent, since Floyd.



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21 Nov 2020, 5:58 pm

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Oh? I didn't think it was for centuries in this case. I just thought it was since George Floyd, and they have been rioting since, but then it was all about the election instead of Floyd somehow. But I thought that's where the rioting started more so.


I think that was just a joke about Canada's stereotypical politeness. By our standards Americans are always rioting, because we're so over-the-top polite.

Clearly he's never played hockey against a Canadian before. The only pro sport where fighting is part of the rules and done strategically. :lol:


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21 Nov 2020, 6:27 pm

Well my friend is also Canadian and he makes remarks about how Americans always seem to be offended by everything and are too sensitive. Now of course he could be speaking dismissively and judgmentally, but it seems on social media there is a lot of Americans offended by so many things, so could it possibly be the case?



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21 Nov 2020, 6:31 pm

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Well my friend is also Canadian and he makes remarks about how Americans always seem to be offended by everything and are too sensitive. Now of course he could be speaking dismissively and judgmentally, but it seems on social media there is a lot of Americans offended by so many things, so could it possibly be the case?


It's stereotype. There's at least a degree of truth to it, but it's not universally true on an individual level. Some Americans are easily offended, but what they're offended by varies. Other Americans are more like Seth Putnam.


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21 Nov 2020, 6:33 pm

Yeah, and I am not saying all Americans are offended by everything of course, but it seems a significant amount when you watch the new and see the rioting and protesting?



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21 Nov 2020, 6:50 pm

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Yeah, and I am not saying all Americans are offended by everything of course, but it seems a significant amount when you watch the new and see the rioting and protesting?


I'm not sure seeing people like you being subjected to excessive force needlessly over and over again with no repercussions from the people who are supposed to serve and protect you is an unreasonable thing to be offended by.

It's genuinely stressful to know that yourself or your loved ones might be subjected to this. I know Canada isn't as bad as the US in this regard but it makes me sick to my stomach and unable to breathe from anxiety and grief when I consider that my cousins could be one of those stories, or yet another neglected missing or murdered persons case because police don't appear to value the lives and well-being of some groups of people as highly as others.

Every single one of those cases represents someone, and that someone is also someone's son or daughter, (etc, etc). Every single one of those cases represents someone's loved one who they hoped would get to amount to being more than a statistic. Every single one of those cases represents a deep tragedy for the people connected to that person and the grief and anger that each of those cases inflicts resonates outward every single time another one happens.

Offended really isn't the right word, heart-broken or devastated might come closer.


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21 Nov 2020, 7:06 pm

I’m a Yankee. I’m not easily offended.

What I don’t like is when people from other countries stereotype Americans incorrectly.

Most Americans have families to take care of. They don’t have time to riot.



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21 Nov 2020, 7:10 pm

The Trump campaign's lawsuit in Pennsylvania just got dismissed - with prejudice - by the courts as well:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... 16cf084802
https://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/sites/pam ... 78_202.pdf
https://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/sites/pam ... 78_203.pdf



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21 Nov 2020, 7:14 pm

Trump should just acknowledge that he won’t be President after Biden takes the Oath of Office....



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21 Nov 2020, 7:24 pm

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Yeah, and I am not saying all Americans are offended by everything of course, but it seems a significant amount when you watch the new and see the rioting and protesting?


I'm not sure seeing people like you being subjected to excessive force needlessly over and over again with no repercussions from the people who are supposed to serve and protect you is an unreasonable thing to be offended by.

It's genuinely stressful to know that yourself or your loved ones might be subjected to this. I know Canada isn't as bad as the US in this regard but it makes me sick to my stomach and unable to breathe from anxiety and grief when I consider that my cousins could be one of those stories, or yet another neglected missing or murdered persons case because police don't appear to value the lives and well-being of some groups of people as highly as others.

Every single one of those cases represents someone, and that someone is also someone's son or daughter, (etc, etc). Every single one of those cases represents someone's loved one who they hoped would get to amount to being more than a statistic. Every single one of those cases represents a deep tragedy for the people connected to that person and the grief and anger that each of those cases inflicts resonates outward every single time another one happens.

Offended really isn't the right word, heart-broken or devastated might come closer.


Oh okay, but I thought a lot of this rioting and protesting was going on over the election though, or so they make it seem like, rather than the police brutality incidents.



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21 Nov 2020, 7:28 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Yeah, and I am not saying all Americans are offended by everything of course, but it seems a significant amount when you watch the new and see the rioting and protesting?


I'm not sure seeing people like you being subjected to excessive force needlessly over and over again with no repercussions from the people who are supposed to serve and protect you is an unreasonable thing to be offended by.

It's genuinely stressful to know that yourself or your loved ones might be subjected to this. I know Canada isn't as bad as the US in this regard but it makes me sick to my stomach and unable to breathe from anxiety and grief when I consider that my cousins could be one of those stories, or yet another neglected missing or murdered persons case because police don't appear to value the lives and well-being of some groups of people as highly as others.

Every single one of those cases represents someone, and that someone is also someone's son or daughter, (etc, etc). Every single one of those cases represents someone's loved one who they hoped would get to amount to being more than a statistic. Every single one of those cases represents a deep tragedy for the people connected to that person and the grief and anger that each of those cases inflicts resonates outward every single time another one happens.

Offended really isn't the right word, heart-broken or devastated might come closer.


Oh okay, but I thought a lot of this rioting and protesting was going on over the election though, or so they make it seem like, rather than the police brutality incidents.


People are agitated over many reasons and they overlap to degrees. If the president is viewed as a white supremacist who condones police brutality you can understand why anti-police brutality protests would also gain an element of anti-president who enables the problem.


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21 Nov 2020, 7:29 pm

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Trump should just acknowledge that he won’t be President after Biden takes the Oath of Office....


It would be quite out of character for him to start doing the right thing now though, wouldn't it? :wink:


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21 Nov 2020, 7:32 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
Trump should just acknowledge that he won’t be President after Biden takes the Oath of Office....
It would be quite out of character for him to start doing the right thing now though, wouldn't it? :wink:

Hmm.... Is it even possible for Trump to act "out of character"... when he has *no* character at all? :scratch:



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21 Nov 2020, 7:36 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Trump should just acknowledge that he won’t be President after Biden takes the Oath of Office....
It would be quite out of character for him to start doing the right thing now though, wouldn't it? :wink:

Hmm.... Is it even possible for Trump to act "out of character"... when he has *no* character at all? :scratch:


And yet, he's certainly a character.


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21 Nov 2020, 7:44 pm

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ironpony wrote:
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Yeah, and I am not saying all Americans are offended by everything of course, but it seems a significant amount when you watch the new and see the rioting and protesting?


I'm not sure seeing people like you being subjected to excessive force needlessly over and over again with no repercussions from the people who are supposed to serve and protect you is an unreasonable thing to be offended by.

It's genuinely stressful to know that yourself or your loved ones might be subjected to this. I know Canada isn't as bad as the US in this regard but it makes me sick to my stomach and unable to breathe from anxiety and grief when I consider that my cousins could be one of those stories, or yet another neglected missing or murdered persons case because police don't appear to value the lives and well-being of some groups of people as highly as others.

Every single one of those cases represents someone, and that someone is also someone's son or daughter, (etc, etc). Every single one of those cases represents someone's loved one who they hoped would get to amount to being more than a statistic. Every single one of those cases represents a deep tragedy for the people connected to that person and the grief and anger that each of those cases inflicts resonates outward every single time another one happens.

Offended really isn't the right word, heart-broken or devastated might come closer.


Oh okay, but I thought a lot of this rioting and protesting was going on over the election though, or so they make it seem like, rather than the police brutality incidents.


People are agitated over many reasons and they overlap to degrees. If the president is viewed as a white supremacist who condones police brutality you can understand why anti-police brutality protests would also gain an element of anti-president who enables the problem.


Oh okay, but this is kind of what my friend might be saying about how a lot of people could be too offended. Why not just vote and leave it at that? Why riot and protest over it, instead of just vote?

But he also says that American are offended over all these little things, which is why there is cancel culture, and how the entertainment industry is afraid to make anything gutsy. However, the Canadian entertainment industry is afraid to make anything gutsy either, so I don't think I can say it's mainly the Americans who are like that I don't think. Unless of course maybe the reason for that is American influence...



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21 Nov 2020, 7:52 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
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ironpony wrote:
Yeah, and I am not saying all Americans are offended by everything of course, but it seems a significant amount when you watch the new and see the rioting and protesting?


I'm not sure seeing people like you being subjected to excessive force needlessly over and over again with no repercussions from the people who are supposed to serve and protect you is an unreasonable thing to be offended by.

It's genuinely stressful to know that yourself or your loved ones might be subjected to this. I know Canada isn't as bad as the US in this regard but it makes me sick to my stomach and unable to breathe from anxiety and grief when I consider that my cousins could be one of those stories, or yet another neglected missing or murdered persons case because police don't appear to value the lives and well-being of some groups of people as highly as others.

Every single one of those cases represents someone, and that someone is also someone's son or daughter, (etc, etc). Every single one of those cases represents someone's loved one who they hoped would get to amount to being more than a statistic. Every single one of those cases represents a deep tragedy for the people connected to that person and the grief and anger that each of those cases inflicts resonates outward every single time another one happens.

Offended really isn't the right word, heart-broken or devastated might come closer.


Oh okay, but I thought a lot of this rioting and protesting was going on over the election though, or so they make it seem like, rather than the police brutality incidents.


People are agitated over many reasons and they overlap to degrees. If the president is viewed as a white supremacist who condones police brutality you can understand why anti-police brutality protests would also gain an element of anti-president who enables the problem.


Oh okay, but this is kind of what my friend might be saying about how a lot of people could be too offended. Why not just vote and leave it at that? Why riot and protest over it, instead of just vote?

But he also says that American are offended over all these little things, which is why there is cancel culture, and how the entertainment industry is afraid to make anything gutsy. However, the Canadian entertainment industry is afraid to make anything gutsy either, so I don't think I can say it's mainly the Americans who are like that I don't think. Unless of course maybe the reason for that is American influence...


Protest is for when the ballot box is failing to provide a solution. If all you do is 'just vote' you're still mostly excluding yourself from the political process. Protest is a part of the political process and one that's enshrined in the US Constitution (freedoms of speech, association and assembly).


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