I think Aspergeans should NOT have children

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15 Sep 2009, 1:43 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Ummm....no I'm not wrong because I don't believe I ever made my hypothesis a fact unlike yourself LPP.

Many women do go undiagnosed. There's been many articles talking about how females present the traits of aspergers differently from men.

As (my kind) who want to be equal in the ratio of guys....your assumption is mostly YOUR assumption.

And I'll have you know it took years before I was ever diagnosed with aspergers.


Try to defeat the point 1.

There are a lot of guys here that took them years to be diagnosed (in fact,most users are diagnosed as adults on this forum) or realize to have something like it, including me.



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15 Sep 2009, 1:50 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Ummm....no I'm not wrong because I don't believe I ever made my hypothesis a fact unlike yourself LPP.

Many women do go undiagnosed. There's been many articles talking about how females present the traits of aspergers differently from men.

As (my kind) who want to be equal in the ratio of guys....your assumption is mostly YOUR assumption.

And I'll have you know it took years before I was ever diagnosed with aspergers.


Try to defeat the point 1.

There are a lot of guys here that took them years to be diagnosed (in fact,most users are diagnosed as adults on this forum) or realize to have something like it, including me.

Your profile claims that you are female, so do excuse us if we find your Argument from Anecdote not very convincing. :P


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15 Sep 2009, 1:51 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Ummm....no I'm not wrong because I don't believe I ever made my hypothesis a fact unlike yourself LPP.

Many women do go undiagnosed. There's been many articles talking about how females present the traits of aspergers differently from men.

As (my kind) who want to be equal in the ratio of guys....your assumption is mostly YOUR assumption.

And I'll have you know it took years before I was ever diagnosed with aspergers.


Try to defeat the point 1.

There are a lot of guys here that took them years to be diagnosed or realize to have something like it, including me.


I'm not diagnosed but I have a hunch I have it as I find social relationships most peculiar and I don't enjoy most of the stuff that humans do. When I stared nosing around this site a couple of years ago I realized there were others with the same problems. But it took me over 80 years to find out. For a long time I suspected I might be a robot or an alien.



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15 Sep 2009, 2:01 pm

Henriksson wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Ummm....no I'm not wrong because I don't believe I ever made my hypothesis a fact unlike yourself LPP.

Many women do go undiagnosed. There's been many articles talking about how females present the traits of aspergers differently from men.

As (my kind) who want to be equal in the ratio of guys....your assumption is mostly YOUR assumption.

And I'll have you know it took years before I was ever diagnosed with aspergers.


Try to defeat the point 1.

There are a lot of guys here that took them years to be diagnosed (in fact,most users are diagnosed as adults on this forum) or realize to have something like it, including me.


Your profile claims that you are female


And so what?
You sexist white knight ....:P

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I've read that thread, and no concencus appears to have been met. Actually, some excellent rebuttals have been made against you - not the least the fact that the source you used is Wikipedia.


no-consensus means nothing btw, and there are also excellent statements have been made by both genders that agree with my theory.The Wikipedia part is based on medical references btw.



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15 Sep 2009, 2:05 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Ummm....no I'm not wrong because I don't believe I ever made my hypothesis a fact unlike yourself LPP.

Many women do go undiagnosed. There's been many articles talking about how females present the traits of aspergers differently from men.

As (my kind) who want to be equal in the ratio of guys....your assumption is mostly YOUR assumption.

And I'll have you know it took years before I was ever diagnosed with aspergers.


Try to defeat the point 1.

There are a lot of guys here that took them years to be diagnosed (in fact,most users are diagnosed as adults on this forum) or realize to have something like it, including me.


Your profile claims that you are female, so do excuse us if we find your Argument from Anecdote not very convincing. :P


And so what?
You sexist white knight ....:P

Well, if you're going to argue from anecdote (which is bad as it is already), one could at least expect you to be truthful.


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15 Sep 2009, 2:19 pm

Sand wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Ummm....no I'm not wrong because I don't believe I ever made my hypothesis a fact unlike yourself LPP.

Many women do go undiagnosed. There's been many articles talking about how females present the traits of aspergers differently from men.

As (my kind) who want to be equal in the ratio of guys....your assumption is mostly YOUR assumption.

And I'll have you know it took years before I was ever diagnosed with aspergers.


Try to defeat the point 1.

There are a lot of guys here that took them years to be diagnosed or realize to have something like it, including me.


I'm not diagnosed but I have a hunch I have it as I find social relationships most peculiar and I don't enjoy most of the stuff that humans do. When I stared nosing around this site a couple of years ago I realized there were others with the same problems. But it took me over 80 years to find out. For a long time I suspected I might be a robot or an alien.


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're the oldest WP member :cheers:



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15 Sep 2009, 4:36 pm

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I know my statement about aspies not having children could be construed as being provocative, especially since some of you claim to have kids, but I honestly believe people like us shouldn't reproduce.


Well, the raw figures agree with you.


/most likely only a couple people here have spawned.


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15 Sep 2009, 8:15 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Sand wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Ummm....no I'm not wrong because I don't believe I ever made my hypothesis a fact unlike yourself LPP.

Many women do go undiagnosed. There's been many articles talking about how females present the traits of aspergers differently from men.

As (my kind) who want to be equal in the ratio of guys....your assumption is mostly YOUR assumption.

And I'll have you know it took years before I was ever diagnosed with aspergers.


Try to defeat the point 1.

There are a lot of guys here that took them years to be diagnosed or realize to have something like it, including me.


I'm not diagnosed but I have a hunch I have it as I find social relationships most peculiar and I don't enjoy most of the stuff that humans do. When I stared nosing around this site a couple of years ago I realized there were others with the same problems. But it took me over 80 years to find out. For a long time I suspected I might be a robot or an alien.


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're the oldest WP member :cheers:


In my encounters here I have come across 14 year olds who are good and well informed conversationalists and people over 60 who are not worth a reply. Age seems not a factor.



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15 Sep 2009, 8:17 pm

Sand wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Sand wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Ummm....no I'm not wrong because I don't believe I ever made my hypothesis a fact unlike yourself LPP.

Many women do go undiagnosed. There's been many articles talking about how females present the traits of aspergers differently from men.

As (my kind) who want to be equal in the ratio of guys....your assumption is mostly YOUR assumption.

And I'll have you know it took years before I was ever diagnosed with aspergers.


Try to defeat the point 1.

There are a lot of guys here that took them years to be diagnosed or realize to have something like it, including me.


I'm not diagnosed but I have a hunch I have it as I find social relationships most peculiar and I don't enjoy most of the stuff that humans do. When I stared nosing around this site a couple of years ago I realized there were others with the same problems. But it took me over 80 years to find out. For a long time I suspected I might be a robot or an alien.


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're the oldest WP member :cheers:


In my encounters here I have come across 14 year olds who are good and well informed conversationalists and people over 60 who are not worth a reply. Age seems not a factor.


Age is just a tally of years...what matters is what you've done during those years and how you've interpreted what you've come across.


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16 Sep 2009, 9:12 pm

Mw99 wrote:
I know my statement about aspies not having children could be construed as being provocative, especially since some of you claim to have kids, but I honestly believe people like us shouldn't reproduce.

In my case, whenever I think about having kids, I ask myself some of the following questions (and these are just hypothetical questions, as I'd first need to find a woman to reproduce with, which so far seems like an extremely difficult task to accomplish):

1) Why would you want to bring kids to this world to suffer the way you suffered?
2) Why would you want to degenerate the human gene pool even further?
3) Given my neuropsychological condition, am I really fit to raise a child?
4) Given all my flaws and defects, what example will I give my children?

So what do you all think about the way I think in regards to "aspergean reproduction"? Are my views too negative?

(I hope I did not offend anyone with my comments.)
Yes, they are WAY too negative. Screw you.


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17 Sep 2009, 9:55 am

I think hardly any of us is going to bring 12 kids on welfare like many "normal" people do nowdays.
Assuming I am settled down a household with no trouble looming in the long term I probably will have children at the right time.

I'm probably above average genetically . my children won't suffer even if they are a bit higher on the spectrum.

that's the only measure that should be taken into account in the end , this debate is futile.



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17 Sep 2009, 12:37 pm

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I'm probably above average genetically . my children won't suffer even if they are a bit higher on the spectrum.

that's the only measure that should be taken into account in the end , this debate is futile.


Spoken like a true childless individual. There is never any gurantee that a child will not suffer, regardless of genetics.



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20 Sep 2009, 1:23 pm

People are going to suffer whether they have Aspergers or not. Genetics doesn't play a role in that. If autism was truly a painful disease that required morphine on a regular basis, then we'd be talking a different story. A childless person isn't the only one to consider genetics. They test for all types of genetics upon request when pregnant, and many women do that irregardless of how many children they have.


Also, many sources say autism is more prevalant in males. That doesn't make it true, but it doesn't make it false either. There's many theories suggesting that is that way because of the research methods, but it's possible the research results are still accurate despite those theories. But to say women have a desire to be equal to men including how many people have autism is sort of far fetched. There are holes in the research methods and just because someone truly thinks they do affect the results (which they very well could) doesn't make them wish to be equal to men.

I have a magnet somewhere in this house that I love, and it says, "Women who want to be equal to men have no ambition." In fact, I think sexism is more of a territorial issue than which gender is better because we all know which gender is better...;) Seriously it is more territorial than envy. Men will trust women to raise their kids and cook their meals, but not to kill in war or increase sales. As far as women, we don't envy men or wish to be equal. It's more about how housework sucks and we'd rather do something else with our time sometimes. Women have always known we are equal to men, so it's not about trying to be equal to men, it's about getting equal rights. Men are the ones still trying to accept that we've moved into their territories. Someday they will realize that this whole time, they are trying to be equal to women. Either way, I just don't see how a woman's motivation to claiming that autism doesn't discriminate against gender is based on a desire to be equal to a creature she is already aware that she is equal to.


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21 Sep 2009, 1:57 am

Too late for your objection. My kids are really cool and cute.


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I know my statement about aspies not having children could be construed as being provocative, especially since some of you claim to have kids, but I honestly believe people like us shouldn't reproduce.

In my case, whenever I think about having kids, I ask myself some of the following questions (and these are just hypothetical questions, as I'd first need to find a woman to reproduce with, which so far seems like an extremely difficult task to accomplish):

1) Why would you want to bring kids to this world to suffer the way you suffered?
2) Why would you want to degenerate the human gene pool even further?
3) Given my neuropsychological condition, am I really fit to raise a child?
4) Given all my flaws and defects, what example will I give my children?

So what do you all think about the way I think in regards to "aspergean reproduction"? Are my views too negative?


Hitler shared similiar views regarding anyone who was different.



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25 Sep 2009, 2:42 am

Early (gnostic) christians thought no one should have children.