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Do you believe in a God or follow any sort of religion?
yes (I'm aspie/autie) 41%  41%  [ 127 ]
no (I'm aspie/autie) 55%  55%  [ 170 ]
yes (I'm NT) 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
no (I'm NT) 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
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30 Sep 2008, 11:39 pm

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the bible was written for the Jews and the New testament made us Christians, so why even consider the Old testament???


Tell me something then, why is the Old Testament in your Bible? Your Holy Word.

Hint: Jews don't read the Bible.


that doesn't mean anything. Jehova is an avengeful god and it is the Jews who obey him. Jesus brought a milder god to us and a loving one and we got the new Testament. Stirke me if it isn't true


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30 Sep 2008, 11:58 pm

Loborojo wrote:
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the bible was written for the Jews and the New testament made us Christians, so why even consider the Old testament???


Tell me something then, why is the Old Testament in your Bible? Your Holy Word.

Hint: Jews don't read the Bible.


that doesn't mean anything. Jehova is an avengeful god and it is the Jews who obey him. Jesus brought a milder god to us and a loving one and we got the new Testament. Stirke me if it isn't true


Jehovah\Yahweh\El\Allah of the Old Testament is a malicious and worthless piece of s**t. Nonetheless, he is in your holy book. If you don't like the Old Testament, then take it out of your Bible!

Jesus brought you a different God? Anyone else find that wording just hilarious? On a more important note, your God is still malicious, not to mention schizophrenic to say the least.

Sadly, I cannot strike you because I'm not omnipresent and don't know where you are. But If I were right next to you, I would bop you on your head :P



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01 Oct 2008, 12:23 am

Legato wrote:
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the bible was written for the Jews and the New testament made us Christians, so why even consider the Old testament???


Tell me something then, why is the Old Testament in your Bible? Your Holy Word.

Hint: Jews don't read the Bible.


that doesn't mean anything. Jehova is an avengeful god and it is the Jews who obey him. Jesus brought a milder god to us and a loving one and we got the new Testament. Stirke me if it isn't true


Jehovah\Yahweh\El\Allah of the Old Testament is a malicious and worthless piece of sh**. Nonetheless, he is in your holy book. If you don't like the Old Testament, then take it out of your Bible!

Jesus brought you a different God? Anyone else find that wording just hilarious? On a more important note, your God is still malicious, not to mention schizophrenic to say the least.

Sadly, I cannot strike you because I'm not omnipresent and don't know where you are. But If I were right next to you, I would bop you on your head :P


I have no Bible and never had a New testament, except for when I was 12 and had to study chatechese for my holy communion- And those guys like Jahweh and equals are not my gods either


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01 Oct 2008, 7:16 am

Legato wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
the bible was written for the Jews and the New testament made us Christians, so why even consider the Old testament???


Tell me something then, why is the Old Testament in your Bible? Your Holy Word.

Hint: Jews don't read the Bible.


Judaism is the parent-religion of Christianity. Jesus was a Jew.



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01 Oct 2008, 7:49 am

slowmutant wrote:
Legato wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
the bible was written for the Jews and the New testament made us Christians, so why even consider the Old testament???


Tell me something then, why is the Old Testament in your Bible? Your Holy Word.

Hint: Jews don't read the Bible.


Judaism is the parent-religion of Christianity. Jesus was a Jew.



The New Testament was the new covenant and that's the book the Christians should follow IMO.

I met a Jewish lady and she said she found it funny that the west had embraced A Jew as their saviour


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01 Oct 2008, 7:29 pm

I am between NT and AS on the spectrum (AQ score 29) and I believe in God.



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01 Oct 2008, 7:54 pm

Legato wrote:
If you don't like the Old Testament, then take it out of your Bible!


"Certainly, then, there occurs a setting aside of the proceeding commandment on account of its weakness and ineffectiveness."

"For if the first covenant had been faultless, no place would have been sought for a second."

"But their mental powers were dulled. For to this present day the same veil remains uplifted at the reading of the old covenant, because it is done away with by means of Christ.

In fact, down till today whenever Moses is read, a veil lies upon their hearts."

“For if the code administering condemnation was glorious, much more does the administering of righteousness abound with glory."

Hebrews 7:18 + 2Corinthians 3:7 + 3:12

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02 Oct 2008, 12:14 pm

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"Understand you foolish ones, and mark the parable and the interpretation, the words of the wise and their mysterious sayings; for the wise have used diverse manners of speech in making comparison with everything that is upon the earth, and beneath the sphere of the moon they have multiplied parables in this science."

"For the wise have not spoken to the foolish, seeing that he that speaks with a fool speaks with one that is asleep. If I were to unriddle all things as they are, there would be no further place for prudence, for the fool would be made equal to the wise; nor would any mortal under the sphere of the moon bewail in stepmotherly poverty the pangs of hunger, for in this science the number of fools is infinite."


Is this prose or poetry? Whichever it is, I am intrigued. :)


I'm glad you are intrigued..

I feel the same way about all genuine occult writings..

They fascinate me.. because I enjoy problem solving..:-)

Like the bible.. Aurora is a mix of prose and poetry.. (inspired by the holy scriptures).

The introductory pages are fairly straight forward to understand.. but then it slips into deep occultism.. and the verses sound more like a drunken monk refering to the scriptures.. but they are not as crazy as they might sound to the casual reader.

Unfortunately I haven't included the commentary by Carl Jung.. and even with it.. Thomas' writings can be a real struggle to understand.

It is the most difficult book I have ever read.. but once you grasp what he is really saying.. it leaves you in awe.

I remember once I spent four hours working to decifer a single page..

The bible.. which is also an occult book.. is written in much the same cyptic style as well.. so it needs decifering.

Go beneath the symbolism.. and you will discover a wonder of wonders.. hidden within the well considered words.

Anyway.. this is all I have from the Aurora.. online.

The rest is still on my book-shelf.

http://www.apocatastasis.net/OccultLibr ... uinas.html

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“For one to know wisdom and discipline, to discern the sayings of understanding, to receive the discipline that gives insight, righteousness and judgment and uprightness, to give the inexperienced ones shrewdness, to a young man thinking ability.”

“A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man of understanding is one who acquires skilful direction, to understand a proverb and a puzzling saying, the words of the wise persons and their riddles.”

Proverbs 1:2

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02 Oct 2008, 12:47 pm

The Bible is not an occult book. That is my only objection.



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02 Oct 2008, 1:11 pm

do you know theology is a profession, not just a riddle for amaterus to unravel, of course there are alwyas exception like those who discover a new star in the Universe


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02 Oct 2008, 1:35 pm

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do you know theology is a profession,


“Therefore the Jews fell to wondering, saying:

"How does this man have a knowledge of letters, when he has not studied at the schools?"

John 7:15

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02 Oct 2008, 1:40 pm

I do believe in God, but I am not exactly the most conventional person when it comes to obeying His laws.


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02 Oct 2008, 1:48 pm

I believe in God, the infinite God, the invisible God, the one and only God, creator of heaven and earth.



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02 Oct 2008, 1:58 pm

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I believe in God, the infinite God, the invisible God, the one and only God, creator of heaven and earth.


“Furthermore, it is YOU.. God made alive.. though you were dead in your trespasses and sins (errors), in which you at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience.”

Ephesians 2:1

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02 Oct 2008, 2:03 pm

Accelerator wrote:
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I believe in God, the infinite God, the invisible God, the one and only God, creator of heaven and earth.


“Furthermore, it is YOU.. God made alive though you were dead in your trespasses and sins (errors), in which you at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience.”

Ephesians 2:1

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Which version is that from?



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"I behold that in all things you seem to be more given to the fear of the deities than others are. For instance, while passing along and carefully observing your objects of veneration I also found an altar on which had been inscribed `To an Unknown God.' Therefore what you are unknowingly giving godly devotion to, this I am publishing to you.

The God that made the world and all the things in it, being as this One is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples, neither is he attended to by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives to all persons life and breath and all things.

And he made out of one man every nation of men, to dwell upon the entire surface of the earth, and he decreed the appointed times and set the limits of the dwelling of men, for them to seek god, if they might grope for him and really find him, although , in fact, he is not far off from each one of us. For by him we have life and move and exist, even as certain ones of the poets among you have said, `For we are also his progeny."

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Paul is referring to David.. the poet.. who wrote..

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"They have not known, and they do not understand; In darkness they keep walking about; All the foundations of the earth are made to totter.

I myself have said, 'You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High."

Psalms 82:5

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