Why is there so much liberal hate?

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Genau!


I find it laughable that anyone who is beyond gradeschool age and has a HS diploma at the very least wouldn't realize this. It's just THAT obvious.

I find it laughable when Liberals aruge.

Argue gotta stop typing so fast.

Very true.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Never will understand why certin laws where passed by Liberals.

My politics are based on years of careful research and observation. If I based them solely upon my environment, I would probably be rabidly anti-Quebecois. You are not the only person to be mistreated by bigots. Some people, however, are capable of rising above these things. Maybe your environment entirely shapes your views and you find it easy to project this mindset onto others, but not everyone develops their views the same way



Actually, it is. It is objectively wrong. He mercilessly killed young campers. He set off a bomb in Oslo that killed eight people. It was a massacre.



Of course, its liberalism that makes everyone disagree with you. Not your statements about Breivik or wriggly nature regarding them



Morals shape what one will agree or disagree with. So you can make a valid measurement of one's morals by what they agree or disagree with



You are placing a lot of emphasis on these social and cultural values while leaving out education



Now you are waxing rhetorical.



... and thus sympathize with what drove a narcissist to commit one of the most atrocious acts of mass murder in recorded history?



Didn't you hear? 39% makes a majority in Canada I digress. Roughly 60-70% of Americans participated in either direction of the US revolution. The majority (over 2/3) of these participants were in favor of independence. The remaining 30-40% did not side with either. You know what that sounds like? It sounds exactly like modern US politics. On average only ~60% of Americans bother voting. 30-40% do not vote, does that therefore make them all Democrat?



They then engaged in conventional and some guerrilla warfare against their oppressors' military forces and sought audience with foreign nations for recognition of their fledgling nation.

Where do they go to a campsite for young people and massacre them calmly and methodically for an hour?



There are men talking here, why don't you run along and play with your toys

More to the point, what is government? It is a human construct that US citizens have created through a democratic process over the course of over two-hundred years. One cannot separate the government from the citizens of a country where a democratic process is involved and citizens take an active part in creating that government. All citizens are part of the government, whether they actively participate or not, so when we point our fingers toward the government we point them toward ourselves. All US citizens are reliant on the government for survival, there is no question about that because they are part of that government.

The only way to escape the reliance on US government as a US citizen, is to leave and find reliance on another society with a different governing methodology. Or move to somewhere where there is no civilization or cultural byproducts to assist one in life, and see how that works out, when one competes with and relies on the governing force that most animals answer to, nature.

All animals come into the world dependent on the governing forces of nature, and all leave the same way. Any type of perceived control over this is egocentric illusion. Human constructs of government, society, and culture, provide the mainstay of that illusion for most human beings.

Interesting that one would complain about a security blanket, that separates them from the chaos of reality. Regardless if it is the human constructs governing a society like the US, or the human constructs governing a primitive society like the San Bushmen, humans are reliant on the human constructs of those governing forces, not only for subsistence but for perceived order, and in part, sanity.

Government is a reality that all humans are reliant on, whether it the US governing forces, the San Bushman governing forces, or the governing forces of nature. There is no way out of it alive. One can be thankful to live reliant upon the present governing forces as opposed to the governing forces that our ancestors answered to, as a mainstay per their reality, for millions of years; nature. They didn't get a hot shower, or a pot to piss in, literally. Nor, do significant portions of humans livings in the world today, who don't have the benefit of the governing forces in the US and other developed countries.

When one wishes US government would go away, so people could be independent from it, they are in part, wishing for existence in a developing country. That could be arranged, considering there are already places in the world, like that. Would likely be best, to enjoy our continuing illusion of what comfort we can gain now through our governing forces, which include the hot shower and pot to piss in. Just two of thousands of benefits provided by governing forces in the US: Government funded Public Water systems, and sewer systems. Don't forget though, one is part of that government when one shares in the government required responsibilities in providing that service to others, through taxes, one method used per our particular human construct of governing forces, that we call the US government.

One could be proud to support health care reform through paying whatever taxes or fees are required since it is part of the same governing force that provides a hot shower and a pot to piss in. Not to mention that toilet paper is a rather new phenomenon in human history, another benefit of US governing forces that all citizens are part of. It would be neither affordable or accessible for most without the distribution of goods provided by the avenue of federal subsidized interstate road systems.

Government is an all pervasive ally, that too many take for granted. Easier to appreciate when one is living naked in the woods.

But they should not try to dictate our lives.

what "certain laws" are you speaking of? as far as health care reform goes, liberals have long dreamed that america could join the rest of the civilized world in guaranteeing health care for all of its citizens and not just healthcare for those who have lots of money. it was liberal progressives who pushed for the 8 hour day and 40 hour workweek, when it was normal for businesses to push their workers from before dawn to after sunset. it was liberal progressives who pushed for national social insurance so that if you were too old and decrepit for work, you wouldn't have to die an ignominious death out on the street. of course you are welcome to turn your back on all of that and go back to the brutal dog-eat-dog back in the day, but you can't expect me to willingly follow you back to that hell.

We don't live in a dictatorship we live in a democracy. Some citizens take an active role in participating in the creation of their government, most don't. They have no one to blame but themselves if they don't like the governing forces that exist, and those that actively participate have no one to blame except for themselves, if they don't actively participate in the available avenues to change it.

Like Sending our jobs over seas.

is that a law??

If that's how ya feel about government in general, then move to Somalia where there is no government.

When a group of citizens are forced to pay for others peoples healthcare how is that Democracy? When Obamacare is Unconstitutional.

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