Why do Americans love guns so much?

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i am not using anything as a "cop out" (ironically pardon the pun).

i entered the thread with an "off the cuff" (pardon the pun) phrase that contained no opinion other than the "wittiness" of the comment.

in some sense i guess that people are less likely to enter altercations with strangers in the USA because you never know who you're dealing with.

in australia, some hot headed adrenaline saturated young men just get out of their cars and punch each other up over some trivial road rage incident.

in america, you would be insane to invite an argument from someone who can just blow your head off and drive on.

so there is like an unspoken "mexican standoff" situation between citizens over there whereas in australia, all you can expect to get from coming off worst in an altercation is a busted face (unless they are maniacs who keep going and kill you).

i have used guns before.
i had a winchester 22 lever action rifle when i was a kid and i used to go pig shooting with my father on our 48,000 hectare property in far western NSW.

we had thousands of wild sheep that lived on the property, and while we never sheared them or benefitted from them financially, we never the less found many sheep just sitting on the ground and they wouldn't run away as we approached, and when we prodded them and they got up, it became apparent that their belly had been slashed and their intestines had been eaten by wild pigs.
they just sat there until they died, so we had to shoot them.

it made me angry with the pigs, and so i saw it as justifiable and fun to hunt them.

my dad had a blitz buggy he bought after ww2 (great truck) and there was no passenger seat, and the roof was open on the passenger side and dad had a gun mount (a modified boat oar holder (don't know what you call them in the states but here we call them "rollicks)) and one day we cam accross an old huge wild pig and i was standing up with the gun in the mount, and dad stopped in order for me to shoot him.
dad had a 270 rifle that uses a bullet with a 303 "charger" and the recoil was too much for me, so i had to use it mounted in the gun mount.

the pig seemed almost tame and looked me in the eye as i was looking down the barrel at him, and i could not shoot him.
from that time on, i just thought "let nature take it's course"

i know if you live in canada or something where grizzly bears can invade your home that you need powerful guns to protect yourself.

anyway that's my story about my experience with guns (i was a good shot)

Situational awareness means before they get that close you're aware of them. Guy acting suspiciously and walking towards you, so you bring your hand to where your gun is and be ready while continuing watching them. If they get closer you tell them to stay back, closer still and they refuse to follow directions you draw and tell them your armed, most cases this is enough. You'd then call the police and report the whole thing. Tons of cases of this preventing crimes. Other cases you draw and fire quick. Such as when a vet pretended to trip and drew his gun and shot robbers who were taking hostages to a back room to likely kill them.

The anti always asume the bad guy snuck up on you and has s gun to the back of your head, yes in that rare case it's hopeless. But people who carry wouldn't let it get that close.

Most the military would be helping to overthrow the illegal treasonous government.



Guns cost $150 up. A knife is $2 and up, and not as controlled. Robbery with a knife also carries less time then one with a gun. Lots of mugging are done with knifes.

So your the type who'd dig your own grave knowing they going kill you. I'd rather fight back and have a chance then guaranteed to die. Yeah if someone's about to shoot me they'll probably do so if I draw but better to try then do nothing, so I'd knock them down a and draw, but again I'd not let anyone get close enough to do so.

I think it would be harder for them to impulsively kill me without a gun.

actually it's cause the anti gun people see rifles as an easier first target . They want to ban all guns especially handguns, but handguns are primarily a personal defense gun. Most Americans own handguns, they'll extremely popular. People from all walks own them. Someone ok with banning ar 15, owns handguns, people supporting a lot of gun control own handguns. It's a non starter, they tried in the past it failed terribly. So first its assault weapons (note many awb proposed included simi auto handguns), then they call hunting rifles sniper rifles and say those need to be banned. Leaving us revolvers and lever actions until the next push. It's all. Ind games. They invented assault weapons to make people think of full auto m60s after they got corrected on calling them assault rifles. Most non gun people think they'll trying to ban machine guns not simi auto rifles. When explained most are like what why would we ban simi auto guns. The anti prey in the lack of knowledge of 2/3 of the nation.

The German private on th beach had a family too and he was drafted and forced to serve. So what. Sad but such is the reality in war. That guard is protecting the weapons and food of the troops out killing Americans civilians. Wrong side wrong place. Most people aren't evil. We killed thousands of Vietnamese fighting for their home and family for a stupid ideal of domino effect. Hell most. Roth Koreans are just poor bastards forced to serve, but better believe if their friends start bombing sk they'll be killed just as well.

My friends are/we're in the military and in a event such as government taking guns they'd run off or turn themselves in to be jailed rather then follow unconstitutional orders in violation of the constitution they swore to defend with their life. War is harsh. Guys who stormed the beaches are friends with the guys who fired the machine guns killing their friends. They don't hold it against them, but rest assured they'd shot them if they'd ran into each other in war. That's the thing about war. No ones bad guy. Most are just good guys found on opposite sides of each other.
Everyone has a family and backstory, a planned future. Criminals have families too. Is what it is. I hope it won't ever come to bloodshed. It won't be pretty. They're be revenge killings on both sides. Thousands if not millions will die. The USA that comes out of it if it does won't be the same. But 100 million gun owners not just surrender and walk off to reeducation camps willingly like anti gun people believe we will. Many current and ex military will fight. Navy seals train to take down countries. Our power grid weak. This country will colaspe into arnarcy after few weeks without power and supplies. Ex military training people could bring this nation to a standstill.the gov trained them how to. They've gen been trained how to train locals into guerrilla units. It'll be Afghanistan all over. We trained them to. They used our training against us.

Not if their stronger, near heavy or sharp objects, push you down and you fall on something, hit you with a car. Just recently a lady almost ran down a lady and kids cause Walmart would t take back her stolen $5 batteries.

Awww, I LOVE that, SO MUCH!! Your hair was FABULOUS----that's the second thing I noticed!!

Once-upon-a-time there was a picture of me, with a long gun----I had it to my side (butt on the ground)----I was, like, 10.

Have you? there's this bit at the start, says something about life and liberty. comes before the 2nd amendment too! almost as if it was.... more important..
yah, and that price is "i get to keep my metal security blanket, who cares how many people lose their freedom"

you can't kill someone with a knife from 40 feet away.

Here's some reasons people got shot by 'responsible gun owners' this January(the blurbs are written in 1st person to summarise events):

gosh golly I sure feel safer with such shining examples owning firearms

Ya know, I've started putting together a collection of desperate and off the wall replies from the antis in these gunz-r-bad threads and this one might just make the cut as one of the desperate ones. The list will be long and I'll have to winnow it down some but this could be on the final one. I'll start using it as appropriate in future gunz-r-bad threads or maybe even start a thread with that list itself.

good to know you consider raising the topic of people dying thanks to your hobby a desperate non-sequitur. thanks for demonstrating you're a fleshy shell over a compassionless void Raptor.

And in a nation with a population of 324,700,000 absolutely no one else died or were injured in January except for these 10 that were shot. The little fish just keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper. I know I shouldn't feed the +r011 but it's like popping balloons with a cigarette.

wrong again(surprised? i'm not)
210 people on jan 1st alone.
http://www.vox.com/2017/1/5/14168440/20 ... nce-deaths

compassionless void: check
can't be arsed to post anything but white noise: check

I figure I alone shot at least 15 on that day so that's part of it. I always kick off the New Year with a people hunt. Hannibal Lecter gives me top dollar per pound for fresh meat.


Yes, being a conservative I am hardhearted and evil so compassion is definitely out of the question.
Compassion is for wussies.

if by conservative you mean 'idiot neocon' instead of the mr rogers conservatism of the 50s, sure why not