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So wait, someone gets to judge my experience by judgementally determining I must be judgemental?

Also where's my rich husband despite the fact I'm supposed to avoid patriarchal indoctrination?

I'd love to meet him so I could tell him no one indoctrinates me, but my own mind.

I've been a single mother for 25 years. My black friends are all happily married, successful professionals.

Who is racist enough to assume black women can't be married?

Also can white men never be victims? What the heck's up with that?

As someone who doesn't much pay attention to this stuff.

I have two questions.

1. What would a white person have to do to be considered 'clear' (to use a Scientology term) of racist sentiments, in the eyes of 'CRT' ideology.

And
2. Why exactly should a person bend over backwards to please this particular ideology standpoint?


Maybe I'm a bit , maybe you can humor me. Or enlighten me. Or even convince me.

perhaps one possible answer to your first question, would be to support some kind of reparation or affirmative action for POC and/or people with long family lineages of dysfunction, "comforting the afflicted." the answer to your 2nd question is in your own heart if you choose to listen to it.

I was just thinking, one of the only women I know named Karen is a black woman who earns a high six-figure salary (if not seven-figures now), in a position of responsibility for one of the biggest educational institutions in Canada.

I'm not denying Canada's history of racism against minority groups, especially Indigenous and black people. I've written on both topics here before and I supported BLM long before it became en vogue.

My point is that doctors aren't white men who overtly deny service to insured Canadians based on their skin colour or heritage. The flaws in medical and social services run much deeper and can be attributed to political corruption rather than individual doctors or a failure of "free insurance".

But which ideologies should get priority attention ? Am i to please everybody? And why should i attempt to?

Everybody has a set amount of time and energy, If everybody only thought only of others, nobody would have time for themselves. Is that selfish? or is that natural mode of everything that lives?

DO you believe in a utopia is possible? and if so, how many years in the future to materialize? Do you believe the ends justify means? What changes are necessary to make amends in society? and are they practical? or Just?

Should my heart be open to everybody indiscriminately, or should i be selective ? which one is optimal? which one is more beneficial or detrimental? to me as an individual? whats more important, the individual or the social group? which is more essential? Self-interest? or self-sacrifice?

5. DO i ask too many question? Do i have a fuzzy mindset? whats better? a rigid mindset or a fluid one? What exactly is my responsibility? who determines it? and by what authority?

you don't have to save the world, but if you don't want God to ask you why did you not at least lift a finger to help one of his flock, help SOMEBODY with SOMETHING, it would be a good idea if you supported some progressive instinct in somebody else in lieu of you lending somebody a hand that you can see is hurting. for many years until i became poor myself i sponsored a child in the poorest parts of what was then Calcutta. it wasn't much but it was SOMETHING.

see answer above.

it is or should be a work in progress. that is what us progressives are all about, making incremental progress towards a truly great society for all and not just for the swells and the gifted. sooner is better than later as it is better to help people while they are alive and not after they and their descendants are long-gone.

pick ONE group or ONE person to help. your imagination is the only limiting factor. we live in a world of hurt that the right wing either refuses to see or laughs at. it is an enormous undertaking so just choose one thing or group or person to assist now and then. that is all a mere mortal can practically do, we can't all be like Albert Schweitzer. but we can try better to at least be a point of light in a dark world.

no such thing as asking too many questions. the more you ask, the more you learn. sometimes fuzzy logic works better in some situations, just ask the japanese scientists who invented it. rigidity is seldom a good thing. rigid things have been known to break, but flexible things tend to last longer. your responsibility is what your heart and mind says it is. your heart tells it to your mind who figures out how to do it. YOU determine it, by YOUR authority invested in you at the time of your birth.

I just realised I should clarify. When I listed all my women doctors, I didn't mean to imply they are the ones who mistreated me. The doctors who treated me badly due to my disability and their own ableism were emergency doctors, and random doctors at urgent care clinics. My GP is amazing and I've known her since she was five years old. I choose specialists carefully for myself as well as my daughter. These women are all outstanding. Yes we may have a wait for hospital services but it's triaged and I believe it's fair. I've never waited more than maybe 2 days maximum for my GP, who even does house calls for her patients during Covid.

1. There’s nothing you can do. Racism is permanent.

2. Now THAT is a very good question!

The only thing to be done is to acknowledge your racism and stay out of the way. Actually, “critical” in Critical Race Theory is defined as taking action to change society. Because racism is systemic and permanent, and white people never helped blacks in a way that didn’t end up being self-serving. What whites CAN do is be aware of their racism and maybe eventually disappear from the dominant cultural hegemony.

Rather, that's the right's description of CRT and it's goals.

Ummm…yeah?


One word: Narrative.

Explanation: It would make sense that you have a rich husband, or at least as a white woman you could more easily get a rich husband to support you. Even if you don’t have a rich husband, you at least have the option of marrying up. Black women are less likely to have access to men who could support them the same way. It’s not that black women can’t get married, but their best prospects likely would not be as financially endowed.

Sure, you SHOULD be free of patriarchal indoctrination, but it’s more likely you were raised to be dependent on men. Everyone expects you to be a gold digger because you really can’t help it. You’re as much a victim as black women, or any women, are. Nobody is going to blame you for that because you’re just doing what you have to do to survive.


Nobody is saying black women can’t be married. However, black women in particular are the most vulnerable. This is where intersectionality enters the picture. You are already oppressed because you are a woman. You are a single mother, so that’s another layer of oppression—you have kids to care for, and that severely limits your opportunities. If you are black, then you ALSO belong to a racial victim class. If you are also lesbian, then you are the most oppressed of all. Transgendered fits in there somewhere, too, but that’s where it gets confusing to me. If you are a black single mom, transgendered, gay man, is that worse or better than being attracted to women? Because then you’re a man and you fit into the patriarchy, but you are biologically a woman and attraction to men is kinda normal anyway. Or what about the opposite?

But no, white, cisgendered males cannot be victims because they have all the power or potential for power. There is no class struggle with these men, but rather all men belong to the oppressing class.

Aside from how I responded to #2, my answer is consistent with how proponents of CRT would describe it.

Everyone's life has a form of intersectionality.

I can see that you're poking fun at CRT now.

Whether you're exaggerating it or not, it's whacked.

Yes history matters. Yes I teach my children the truth about black history and oppression, and victims of all shapes, forms, and creeds. I also teach tolerance and acceptance.

The definition of racism is "distinguishing or judging people according to their race", which is the last thing I do as a colourblind human being. I donate time and charity to groups in need around the world and supported BLM even 10 years ago. I'm not denying racism by whites. I just don't put people in boxes or judge any group (including whites) prior to meeting them, or learning their character.

How about we take this to the next level? Let’s hear from Khiara Bridges, an expert on and contributor to CRT:

I dont know what you definition of victim is...but it must be quite narrow.


uhhm..no they don't. Only a small percentage at the top of the social order have any real power. Again power is relative. You must be talking of statistically averages. trickle down power.


Not really. Maybe in the 1950's. I'd say theres a quite a level playing feild nowadays.


Has there not always been for centuries class struggle between within lowerclass, middleclass, upepr class european whites. Or did I just flunk history?


Well, I will agree, that with Western society, being historically patriarchal, men do hold alot of power. But woman are catching up. Statistics of wealth distribution probably bear this out, I havent looked into, But i've heard things about it. It is in the nature of the powerful to protect themselves, whatever gender they may be.


Also no people ever gives up power voluntarily. It's absurd to think whole group of people, whoever they might be, would do that. People tend to protect their heritage , whether they be fundamental Muslim, born again Christian, native American, communist Chinese etc etc all the down the line. The question then, is what to do expect to accomplish by demonizing certain classes of people, and what do you think is going to be peoples natural reactions when their whole identity is attacked. Co-operation or resistance?

Who's strategy is more successful Martin Luther King or Elijah Muhammed? I'm hearing such seriousness, and absoluteness, in ideology, that the only way it seems a solution would be satisfactory, is if by violent revolution in USA. Does the world need a repeat of the 1960's? I'm not denying there real inequalities, because of course they are. Malcolm X pretty much ran down all that in the 1960's. I will agree not much has changed on that front since then in the USA. FBI Cointelpro. Cia trafficking Cocaine in the 80's, Bloods n Crips. America has a lot of problems. I know all about its history of Race relations. Black people have been held down.

If only that were the case…


All I’m going to say is you have to make up your own mind. I posted a video of Dr. Bridges giving an overview of CRT which works nicely. But I also acknowledge, just as she mentioned at the end of the video, that CRT is a complex topic. The only thing I disagree with is whether CRT is being taught in schools…the issue is that educators are learning about it as part of regular degree programs and bringing that into the classrooms as teachers, so you have some who are teaching history and diversity through CRT or a related point of view. That’s what’s causing all the fury and causing parent groups and school boards to have these debates to decide whether they should allow it to be taught at all. Teachers are getting in hot water over this topic, so I have to wonder what it is exactly Crenshaw and Bridges want to accomplish by denying that it’s happening. I think it’s obvious that conservatives are drumming up more hype than it deserves, but they are not EXACTLY wrong, either. Does CRT make worthwhile points about race and the law? Of course it does. But when you understand, and Dr. Bridges affirms this in the video, that it’s a call to ACTION, then you have to decide whether that’s something you can live with. Power is not a matter of dominance of one group over another, but rather a matter of what a single individual can achieve. Once you see that, you know that everyone is on a level playing field regardless of race. But that’s another discussion.

I tend to favor a colorblind approach myself. What CRT argues is that colorblind justice did nothing to help the black community and, in fact, really only benefitted whites.

I don't care to watch anything like that, because it's no different than patriarchal indoctrination. It's political indoctrination.

I use my own mind. I study history and philosophy. I'm active in social causes for all people, to the best of my ability.

I have a very liberal mindset in terms of accepting all people and believing in social equality, while also respecting and honouring each person's individual story the best I can.

I find character much more important in evaluating a person, than race. I don't understand how people presuppose another person's character or their family history before meeting them, or by the colour of the skin. I'm the first to support victims' rights as I've done here countless times, supporting men's mental health, calling out misogyny, misandry, homophobia, transphobia, and ableism while also refusing to align with the groupthink of any political party.

I'm a free thinker who includes everyone unless they hurt, malign, or judge others.

I wasn't raised by any patriarchs.

In fact, this is the ethos I was taught to value about judging others.

It's exactly what I taught my kids, and what I model every day:




Atticus Finch closing statement, TKAM