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26 Jun 2022, 8:19 am

So Called Saul the Paul Said:

(From Catholic Mass Readings on 6.26.2022)

"1 Christ set us free, so that we should remain free.
Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be fastened

again to the yoke of slavery."

So-Called
Jesus Was
Reported to Say
By Some Ghost Author,
Scribe, Or Editor With the
Assigned Famous Pen Name of Luke:

"57 As they travelled along they met a man on the road who said to him, 'I will follow you wherever you go.'

58 Jesus answered, 'Foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay his head.'

59 Another to whom he said, 'Follow me,' replied, 'Let me go and bury my father first.'

60 But he answered, 'Leave the dead to bury their dead; your duty is to go and spread the news of the kingdom of God.'

61 Another said, 'I will follow you, sir, but first let me go and say good -- bye to my people at home.'

62 Jesus said to him, 'Once the hand is laid on the plough, no one who looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.'"

And of Course, in Another Area of the Bible, Jesus is Reported to Say
Ya Gotta Put me Over Your Family As A Common Cult Leader Practice;

Yet in this case, the Cult Is Big Enough And Approved Enough Not to Be Placed
in that Morally Relativistic Category of "SH8T Hole" Places to Get trapped in Life...

Actually, the Fictional Forrest Gump was A Much More Successful Guru/Savior as

He Ran Across the United States And Folks Told Him They Would Follow Him Anywhere
Yet He Never Asked them to; And They Did Until He Decided He Didn't Feel like Running Anymore

And Then Were Lost

And Didn't Know What to Do Next...

Of Course, Jesus Can't Get Tired of What
He is Doing as He is only A Story in A Book;
And Of Course People Cherry Pick the Diverse

Verses Written By Many Ghost Authors, Scribes,
and Other Editors As There are Many Opinions to

Justify Most Any Horrid to Nice Act In Life, For As Many
Cults As there Are Socially Acceptable Sects of the Religion;

And Of Course that Applies to All Human Religions, Whether
in Essence of Action They Are Cult-Like in Effect for the Current

Example of Roe Versus Wade And Turning Already SH8T Hole States

That Call Themselves Followers of Jesus, Who Refuse to Expand Medicaid
For the Most Vulnerable Poor Marginalized People Who Now Refuse Almost Immediately

Women's Health Care And Family Planning Services As the Catholic Old Dudes and
And "HandMaid's Tale" Female Catholic Justice Overturned A Constitutional Right For

Women's Health Care Specific to Safe Medical Abortions And Associated Family Planning Services,

Only to Add More SH8T to SH8T Hole States, Where they Refuse to Raise the Minimum Wage
Above $7.65 Per Hour For All the Single Mom's Working in Retail Doing Their God Damndest

To Survive at All

With or Without

Any Children and
Additional Mouths to Feed
Where They Have to Work Over
10 Hours A Month Just to Afford
the Average Cost Per Month For Diapers at 80 Bucks...

And of Course, the Lowest Rent Apartment Where i Live is 900 Bucks
For A 1 Bedroom, 1 Bath Place With Less than 500 Square Feet of Living Space...

Studies Show 50 Percent of Folks Making 50,000 to 100,000 Dollars A Month are living Pay-Check
to Pay-Check; and 40 Percent Reaching So-Called Upper-Middle Class Dollars Above 100,000 Dollars...

Bottom Lines, This isn't Nearly the 1950's; Not Even 1990, When i Got Married Making 5 Dollars an Hour
Yet My Insurance Cost Wasn't 10,000 Dollars A Year for Two People, it Was About 20 Dollars A Month For

Two People All HMO Then, No Out of Pocket; And We Were Able to Find A One Bedroom Apartment for
250 Dollars A Month; Yet It's True Having Children Was Out of the Question as True my 1989 Cavalier

Cost 230 Dollars A Month For that Car Loan; my Student Loan Was Finally Paid off From College For my
3 College Degrees That Came Most of the Way By Scholarship and Pell Grants; True that Loan was

Less than 2000 Dollars; Yet it Still took About 8 Years to Pay-off Starting in the Early 80's....

Just the Car Loan And Apartment Was Way Over Half of the Income i made at 400 Dollars
Every Two Weeks; Yet it Was Still Heads Below What it Costs For Two Folks in a Marriage

Making $7.65 Per Hour FULL TIME WITH NO BENEFITS in one of These Republican Controlled
Now Handmaid's Tale SH8T Hole States as Nah, They Don't Have 10 Cent A Pound Chicken
Leg Quarters in Frozen Packages Anymore to Cut The Fat Away, if You Can Afford not to Eat

the FAT in
A Handmaids'
Tale SH8T Hole State;

Slipperly Slope The Septic
Tank States Continue to Slide For the

Folks Who Are the most marginalized

Who Are Often On Their Own in Even More After Birth Mess...

Considering A New Child Means Other Children And Members
of the Family Not Being Able to Eat; i Suppose According to Matthew,

The Catholic And Other So-Called Christian Churches Have a Lot of Work

To Do Not to
Be Turned
into Goats

And Burned Forever Next...

i Listened to the Saturday Afternoon
Mass And The Priest Lauded Their One
Day Successful Effort to Get Food Out to Over
800 Marginalized Folks in Our Local Area Yet

Let's Face Facts; They Weren't Delivering Any Cases
of Diapers Fit for 80 Dollars Per Month Just for that Expense

And True Almost Impossible For SO MANY SINGLE MOM'S TO DO

ON MINIMUM WAGE EVEN AT 10 DOLLARS AN HOUR NOW IN FLORIDA
TO THE CHAGRIN OF ALL THE PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC FOLKS WHO

FOUGHT TOOTH
AND NAIL TO

PREVENT

EVEN THAT

WAY TO LIFE OUT
OF A SH8T HOLE STATE TO HAPPEN...

THERE IS A HUGE DIVIDE TO WHAT THE SO-CALLED
CHRISTIAN SH8T HOLE STATES SAY AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY

DO AS FAR
AS ANY
GOD DAMN
BEATITUDES FOR REAL...

Meanwhile, Folks Still Follow
me All around the Metro Area for my
Public Dance 106 Months As of today, 16,828 Miles

And if i Ever Get Tired of Doing it, i'll Stop Just Like Forrest Gump;

Yet i Damn Sure Will NEVER EVER ASK ANYONE TO FOLLOW ME;

i am a one
Man SHow

And i am Really

Free As Free As A Wing on A Bird (And the Wind
Yep FRiEnDS With Gravity in Meditating Autotelic Flow
Balancing Bliss and Bless i Earn in Free Dance and Song)

With No Children Now to Weigh me Down Either...

Who Would Bring a Child into A SH8T Hole State;

Honestly,

i'd Rather Not
Do the 'Biblical
Definition' of Hell These Days...

i Imagine Other Folks Will Figure
Like the Young Folks in Japan, It's Just Not F in Worth it anymore...

Meh, We Already LiVE iN A World Of DudeMade Porn
By Just Whipping Out a 6 Inch Screen Anyway...

When In Rome

You Find

Ways to Adapt...

It's Just the Way it is...

Or You Find A Way to Get
An Abortion, Even if you have to Walk 500 Miles
As You Simply Don't Want to Bring A Child into a Place Like 'This'...

If You Want to Bring a 'Jesus' into the World, the Least You will Do Is Provide

A Frigging
Manger Now
Of Subsistence
Somewhere For Him
and Or Her to Rest their Head...

Meanwhile, Beware The Locals And
Cults That Have Been Normalized

AS HeLL ON EartH

For the
Marginalized
Among Us Continuing
to Be so Hypocritically

Attacked By So-Called
Direction of A 'Good HandMaid's Tale'...

And This Doesn't Even Address How Many
Women Will Face Harm, Permanent Disability,
And Death That the World Health Organization

Already Studies in F iN 3rd World Countries That
Do Not Have Safe Medical Abortion Health Care Available;

Where it is Already Proven That When Abortions Are Outlawed
They Still Exist, Just In Ways That Harm, Maim, And Kill Women More

And Create More Suffering for the Unborn Child again where all Lose

Part of
Their
Humanity
For Real in
Every Way of Existence Now more...

Catholic Mexico Has More God Damned
Humanity Than the United States Now

AS THEY CHANGED THEIR LAWS TO
LEGALIZE SAFE MEDICAL ABORTIONS
TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF WOMEN FOR REAL...

Yet This is what Happens when Folks Follow A
Society Approved Cult; All Kinds of Fresh HeLL ON EartH...

And i'll Still Visit
the Place to Study

it and Change Every God
Damned Ignorant Word of

Every Song and Sermon to Love...

It's What You Do in 'Rome,' You Adapt,

Survive, and if You are Clever Enough YOU
THRIVE ALIVE

WITH NO
GOD DAMNED
FEAR OR IGNORANCE...

Rewind Back to Before Trump And
His Assigned Christian Churches
Went on Their Quest to Remove
Women's Reproductive And Health Care Rights...

A Deacon Gave A Sermon On Single Women and
Gay Folks Aren't Fit to Raise Children; Another Deacon
Described Hurricanes That Distribute Heat From Ocean
to Help All Living Part of Nature in Balance As Evil And then

Compared That with
So-Called Evil Homosexual
Behavior; Ignoring the Fact that
up to 60 Percent of Catholic Priests
Studied Within the Church Are of Homosexual

Orientation; My God, my X-Catholic Priest Grandaddy
Wrote a Book Called 'The Soul of A Priest' And Wrote About

(in the 'Puritanical Decades' of Last Century)

All the Gay Sex
in The Seminary;

Good For them for
Being Who They Naturally Are;

Just Don't Be So God Damned
Hypocritical When it COMES to
Everyone Else's Sexual Orientation
Freedoms To Be Who They Naturally Are too...

Anyway, See This Free Verse Poetry i'm Writing

Now, it Might Seem Worthless to Some Folks; Yet i Wrote
A Free Verse Poem to the Head Priest Just Like This and He

Canceled
The Ability
For Those Deacons
to Ever Do That Again;

Yep, i Still Have a Record
of the E-Mail Verbatim Just
Like This Free Verse Poem in

the Ocean of My 10.6 MiLLioN
Word "SonG of mY SoUL" EPiC Long Form Personal Bible

Poem As It's True When i Study Something i Take Notes

And i Keep Them For Reference Just Like This as It's True
i Dance And Sing Free

This Way
Just to
Record
The Hell
Thru Heaven That
Comes with All of this
Existence NOW FOR REAL...

Words Are Still the Most Powerful
Swords for Change; You Just Have
to Send them to Places With Eyes of Change...

Honestly, The Church i Visit is Among the
Most Holy And Sacred of What's Available Where

i Live
And the
Least ignorant
too; Even if they
Did Say God Said Vote For Trump...

i Do My Best to Keep Repeating 'They Know Not What they Do'...
Meh, i've Already Been the Real Devil in Hell For 66 Months,
Who i am to Judge...

This Much i Master

-me

Honestly, That's
Enough Responsibility... Hehe...

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26 Jun 2022, 8:23 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Rioters in downtown Portland graffiti, smash windows following Supreme Court abortion case: 'Death to SCOTUS'

Quote:

A large group of rioters was seen in downtown Portland, Oregon smashing windows and vandalizing several buildings Saturday night. The group also graffitied several messages targeting the U.S. Supreme Court.

The group, made of about 100 people, were yelling and chanting as they marched down the streets when they would periodically stop to destroy and graffiti objects.

"Death to SCOTUS," one black spray-painted message said.

Members of the group smashed several windows of a Starbucks Coffee building and others were seen destroying a Tesla car.

As the night continued, a smaller group of individuals separated from the larger mob reportedly no longer wishing to be a part of their violent actions.

Just another weekend in Portland

Supreme Court abortion protests: LAPD arrests suspect for attempted murder of police officer

Quote:

A California man was arrested and charged with attempted murder after he allegedly attacked a police officer during a protest of the U.S. Supreme Court’s recent abortion reversal, police said.

Michael Ortiz, 30, and Juliana Bernado, 23, were among those arrested during a clash with police officers in the downtown Los Angeles area Friday as people gathered to protest the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Los Angeles Police Department Chief Michel Moore said.

"The vast majority of those involved were peaceful and law-abiding, however, a much smaller group of individuals took to the streets with the intention of creating chaos and destruction," the LAPD said.

Authorities said as the protests stretched into the night, members of the crowd began "throwing fireworks and other makeshift weapons" at the officers.

Ortiz was allegedly among those members and stands accused of throwing a makeshift flamethrower at an officer, who had to be treated for burns. He was charged with the attempted murder of a police officer, KTLA reported.

At some point in the night, Bernado allegedly attempted to take an officer’s baton and was subsequently taken into custody, the New York Post reported. She faces possible charges for resisting arrest.

They once again are giving people in conservative media negative things to say about the left. So much for uniting the country.

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26 Jun 2022, 8:42 am

Fireblossom wrote:

I'm surprised people here aren't making more noise about how pregnancy and childbirth are both ALWAYS risks to a woman's health and life, even if she's completely healthy. Abortion ban literally puts every woman's health at risk in a country with expensive health care.

ironpony wrote:

Well now that it is overturned, are people going to be having less sex now, or are they going to be having roughly the same amount but just be more protective or picky about it?

I don't live in US, but if I did, I would definitely withhold from having sex at all until I was sure I could take care of a baby if I did get pregnant, and I'd discuss about it with the potential sex partner first, too. If the man wasn't ready to carry responsibility (=paying half the bills the pregnancy and child would cause, including during the pregnancy plus provide for the baby until adulthood) then no sex for him.

And before you ask why won't all women just do this instead of having sex with men: they could, but for some who're used to having basic human right of experiencing their sexuality freely with other willing adult, it'll feel like things important to them have been taken away from them against their will. It would be like discouraging or forbidding people from doing any sports due to higher risks of getting injured.

Oh okay, I see. Are men more risky with sex than when it comes to women? Like for example, I live in Canada where women can get an abortion whenever they want it seems, but a man doesn't know if the woman would get one or not, and so he doesn't know if he will have any bills to pay, if a pregnancy should happen.

Are men more risky when it comes to sex than women therefore? And if so, why are they willing to risk a lot of money in the future, in order to get sex?

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26 Jun 2022, 9:31 am

Companies that are reluctant to hire women because of family leave will be become more so.

What might have been a few days of non productivity to get an abortion now becomes an extended family leave then getting back an employee in bad mental shape trying to raise a kid she never wanted. So why hire child bearing age women in the first place?

Not all companies. Companies such as Disney and Netflix are offering to pay travel expenses for women wanting an abortion. Win Win for them, they get an appreciative productive employee back and it is good for their branding to be seen as a compassionate company fighting for the equal rights of half the population.

Small businesses which hire about half of the labor force may not be able to afford to pay these travel expenses.

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26 Jun 2022, 9:46 am

Amen, aghogday.

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26 Jun 2022, 10:14 am

I think that Friday was a happy day for America. I also feel that every child that's conceived should have a right to experience life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We need to step away from eugenics and towards a world of life and inclusion. Just putting it out there.

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26 Jun 2022, 10:30 am

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Embryo's are conceived, children are born.

I hate to be pedantic but we need to get away from this idea that abortion is the same as killing children.

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26 Jun 2022, 10:41 am

Life begins at conception and I'm not going to argue anymore. I don't feel safe here anymore.

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26 Jun 2022, 10:55 am

I don't see this as an argument. Everyone has the right to be able to say what they feel on the situation.

Personally for me I would not consider having an abortion but I don't see why other women should have that choice taken away from them.

As far as I am aware also you're not actually classed and counted as a live human being until you are actually born into the world.

I mean women can't claim child support for a foetus. Foetuses aren't added towards the population count. And as far as I am aware you don't get a birth or death certificate for stillborns.

Sorry if that may cause offence to some people.

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26 Jun 2022, 11:07 am

I agree. Cockney you are welcome here and you're safe.
You're free to have your own opinion as we all are.

Re: Birth and Death Certificates,
Parents of babies born asleep at or past 20 weeks' gestation can register their child as a Stillborn.
Some parents want the certificate in order to honour their child.

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26 Jun 2022, 11:07 am

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Life begins at conception and I'm not going to argue anymore. I don't feel safe here anymore.

You choose to post in PPR, and then say you "don't feel safe" when someone responds to discuss their disagreement, which is the literal purpose of the subforum? Wtf is up with the people on this site

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26 Jun 2022, 11:17 am

HeroOfHyrule wrote:

CockneyRebel wrote:

Life begins at conception and I'm not going to argue anymore. I don't feel safe here anymore.

I think that this is an especially sensitive topic for people on both sides of the debate.

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26 Jun 2022, 11:24 am

Twilightprincess wrote:

HeroOfHyrule wrote:

CockneyRebel wrote:

Life begins at conception and I'm not going to argue anymore. I don't feel safe here anymore.

I think that this is an especially sensitive topic for people on both sides of the debate.

I just feel like someone saying they "don't feel safe" over someone disagreeing with them on a thread they chose to post in is dramatic and somewhat manipulative. People need to take responsibility over their personal feelings and not post in these types of discussions if they're going to react in such a way.

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26 Jun 2022, 11:34 am

HeroOfHyrule wrote:

Twilightprincess wrote:

HeroOfHyrule wrote:

CockneyRebel wrote:

Life begins at conception and I'm not going to argue anymore. I don't feel safe here anymore.

I think that this is an especially sensitive topic for people on both sides of the debate.

People are free to post in whatever discussion they want to, though, as long as they aren't breaking any rules.

I think in this case people are just expressing how they feel and aren't trying to be manipulative.

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26 Jun 2022, 11:57 am

I've been avoiding this topic because I don't have a strong opinion on it.

Here's my understanding of what happened. The states will now determine and control the regulations regarding abortion. From the limited search I have done, I can see that it appears to continue to be legal in my state, of course with some limits.

The dramatic statements I've seen on here regarding our country being this or that are quite misguided. One should instead focus their dissatisfaction on the individual state(s). I don't see this as an issue with our country as a whole.

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