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Can your sexuality dynamically shift between Straight/Bi/Gay/Asexual... or is it kinda a fixed deal?
Yes... with intense focus, i can become any sexual orientation i like! 35%  35%  [ 11 ]
No... I may be confused but I am what I am. 65%  65%  [ 20 ]
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17 Aug 2007, 6:35 pm

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yeah, go forth and spread your seed ragtime
god wont be happy if there arent a shedload of mini fagtimes populating the earth and evangelising the world


What if one of them is gay?!?! :o :o :o :o


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17 Aug 2007, 6:42 pm

Ragtime wrote:
That can also be arranged, and is perfectly acceptable to do. Jesus said: "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it (this saying), let him receive it" (Matt 19:12).


And you don't think this was literal? I really don't
see what's to be considered metaphor and what's
not. If God is telling you to castrate yourself, you
should. If not - you should be out shagging all that
moves, by your reasoning. If you were given the
parts it seems a dereliction of your purpose to not
do so.

Oh, and why did God give us appendixes?
I forgot the answer to this one.



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17 Aug 2007, 6:56 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
yeah, go forth and spread your seed ragtime
god wont be happy if there arent a shedload of mini fagtimes populating the earth and evangelising the world


What if one of them is gay?!?! :o :o :o :o

god help any poor gay kid who had you as a farther.
actually, god help any kid of yours at all.
im glad you wont be having any.



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17 Aug 2007, 7:16 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
yeah, go forth and spread your seed ragtime
god wont be happy if there arent a shedload of mini fagtimes populating the earth and evangelising the world


What if one of them is gay?!?! :o :o :o :o

You mean the father, right? most likely
that would make it bisexual
a part from that, yeah it might be some who might turn out gay, as Sopho said, God help the poor kids, lol


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17 Aug 2007, 8:18 pm

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Ragtime wrote:
That can also be arranged, and is perfectly acceptable to do. Jesus said: "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it (this saying), let him receive it" (Matt 19:12).


And you don't think this was literal?

Yes, I do think it's literal. It's obviously literal. But it's also obviously an observation, that some have seen fit to solve their rabid-fornicating habits with a knife. (The church father Origen did this, to cure his lust -- it didn't work: he STILL lusted.)
Actually, fornication is explicitly a damnable sin, mentioned as such several times in the New Testament. Plus, my conscience will not allow me to have sex with someone I'm not married to.
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Oh, and why did God give us appendixes?
I forgot the answer to this one.

No one knows. Just like a multitude of facts about the human body.



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17 Aug 2007, 8:36 pm

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Actually, fornication is explicitly a damnable sin, mentioned as such several times in the New Testament. Plus, my conscience will not allow me to have sex with someone I'm not married to.

Wether your partner is male or female?

Yeah fornication is a terrible sin, I wonder what do you think about masturbation, and what about your daydreaming with sex, aren't those lustful thoughts?

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"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery'. But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Matthew 5:27,28


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calandale wrote:
Oh, and why did God give us appendixes?
I forgot the answer to this one.

No one knows. Just like a multitude of facts about the human body.

So people who wrote the Bible didn't know a lot of facts about the human body and the human brain, we agree on that one, don't we?


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17 Aug 2007, 8:45 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Actually, fornication is explicitly a damnable sin, mentioned as such several times in the New Testament. Plus, my conscience will not allow me to have sex with someone I'm not married to.


But - didn't you say all those sins don't
matter, in the end, as long as you accept
God as you croak? Why waste your life
obeying boring rules, if you don't have to?

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Oh, and why did God give us appendixes?
I forgot the answer to this one.

No one knows. Just like a multitude of facts about the human body.


Well, whatever good purpose they're for, we ought to stop
yanking them out, and figure out what to do with them, no?



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17 Aug 2007, 8:51 pm

Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
That can also be arranged, and is perfectly acceptable to do. Jesus said: "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it (this saying), let him receive it" (Matt 19:12).


And you don't think this was literal?

Yes, I do think it's literal. It's obviously literal. But it's also obviously an observation, that some have seen fit to solve their rabid-fornicating habits with a knife. (The church father Origen did this, to cure his lust -- it didn't work: he STILL lusted.)

I'm not sure about this actually, but I think the term eunuchs could have been used to describe people that were impotent and also the ones who chosed celibacy, not always the literal thing of castrating themselves. I think. But it could also meant they were, if you take that literally that would mean that you have to castrate yourself in order to not get dirty being with a woman (objectifying women). I suppose this also might be one of the things that catholic priests and nuns could use to argue about following chastity vote.


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17 Aug 2007, 8:58 pm

greenblue wrote:
I'm not sure about this actually, but I think the term eunuchs could have been used to describe people that were impotent and also the ones who chosed celibacy, not always the literal thing of castrating themselves. I think. But it could also meant they were, if you take that literally that would mean that you have to castrate yourself in order to not get dirty with a woman (objectifying women). I suppose this might be one of the things that catholic priests and nuns might argue about following chastity vote.


At that time and place, I think that
they meant the literal usage.



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17 Aug 2007, 9:05 pm

calandale wrote:
greenblue wrote:
I'm not sure about this actually, but I think the term eunuchs could have been used to describe people that were impotent and also the ones who chosed celibacy, not always the literal thing of castrating themselves. I think. But it could also meant they were, if you take that literally that would mean that you have to castrate yourself in order to not get dirty with a woman (objectifying women). I suppose this might be one of the things that catholic priests and nuns might argue about following chastity vote.


At that time and place, I think that
they meant the literal usage.

yeah, although some people may argue it wasn't a literal thing, most likely it was like that.
What if a guy was caught in adultery or rape (which at the time both had the same meaning), very likely they were castrated.


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17 Aug 2007, 9:32 pm

greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Actually, fornication is explicitly a damnable sin, mentioned as such several times in the New Testament. Plus, my conscience will not allow me to have sex with someone I'm not married to.

Wether your partner is male or female?

Yeah fornication is a terrible sin, I wonder what do you think about masturbation, and what about your daydreaming with sex, aren't those lustful thoughts?

How many times would you like me to answer this question? Just give me a number. You've asked it several times, and I've answered it several times. Lust is wrong, but Christians' sins are forgiven. But, as Paul wrote, "Should we therefore sin more? God forbid!"
Therefore, no, we should not fornicate. :roll:
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Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Oh, and why did God give us appendixes?
I forgot the answer to this one.

No one knows. Just like a multitude of facts about the human body.

So people who wrote the Bible didn't know a lot of facts about the human body and the human brain, we agree on that one, don't we?


Yep, that's right.



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17 Aug 2007, 9:39 pm

Ragtime wrote:
How many times would you like me to answer this question? Just give me a number. You've asked it several times, and I've answered it several times. Lust is wrong, but Christians' sins are forgiven. But, as Paul wrote, "Should we therefore sin more? God forbid!"
Therefore, no, we should not fornicate. :roll:

Ok, so that means that you confess that you are commiting a sin when you are daydreaming, and when you jerk off you are fornicating in your heart, am I right? I guess going to the adult forum isn't such a good idea after all.

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greenblue wrote:
So people who wrote the Bible didn't know a lot of facts about the human body and the human brain, we agree on that one, don't we?


Yep, that's right.

Great, we are getting somewhere.


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17 Aug 2007, 9:52 pm

calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Actually, fornication is explicitly a damnable sin, mentioned as such several times in the New Testament. Plus, my conscience will not allow me to have sex with someone I'm not married to.


But - didn't you say all those sins don't
matter, in the end, as long as you accept
God as you croak? Why waste your life
obeying boring rules, if you don't have to?

Hahahaha! :lol: I'd hardly call abstaining from p**** "wasting my life"! If that's your highest level of achievement, you have my sympathies. (And don't say you had dick too...)
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Oh, and why did God give us appendixes?
I forgot the answer to this one.

No one knows. Just like a multitude of facts about the human body.


Well, whatever good purpose they're for, we ought to stop
yanking them out, and figure out what to do with them, no?


I agree with that. Mine's gone, because otherwise I'd be gone. It nearly burst when I was 13.



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17 Aug 2007, 11:05 pm

Ragtime wrote:
How many times would you like me to answer this question? Just give me a number. You've asked it several times, and I've answered it several times. Lust is wrong, but Christians' sins are forgiven. But, as Paul wrote, "Should we therefore sin more? God forbid!"
Therefore, no, we should not fornicate. :roll:


I don't get this. Why not? I mean, if we WANT to
sin, and it's all forgiven as simply as you say, well
what the hell.



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17 Aug 2007, 11:24 pm

calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
How many times would you like me to answer this question? Just give me a number. You've asked it several times, and I've answered it several times. Lust is wrong, but Christians' sins are forgiven. But, as Paul wrote, "Should we therefore sin more? God forbid!"
Therefore, no, we should not fornicate. :roll:


I don't get this. Why not? I mean, if we WANT to
sin, and it's all forgiven as simply as you say, well
what the hell.


When we're Saved, we're spiritually converted, and given the "mind of Christ", so that we find it easy to think like Him in morality and sense of purpose. Therefore, we don't as deeply want to sin as before we're Saved. More specifically, we have a contra-sin nature, in addition to our original sin nature. So, we have an instinct of righteousness "warring against" our sinful desires. So, real Christians aren't going around all day wanting to sin. And they don't consider it any kind of worthy goal to do so -- it's s**t to them, not gold.



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17 Aug 2007, 11:33 pm

Originally from the thread: What do you daydream about the most often?

Note: I made this post on the other forum, but people got annoyed by this on there, so I decided to post it here instead.


Ragtime wrote:
God doesn't hate you, and neither does any responsible Christian. You're trying to make it into that in order to have an excuse to be anti-God.

An excuse? yeah right, this is hardly an excuse.
What really happens is that he and others have been driven away from religion because of the homophobia and prejudice, million times you have been told about this.

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It'd be like if I went out screwing girls, and expected my church to be okay with it. They shouldn't be! They SHOULD correct me, because I am in error if I do that, and am displeasing God.

If you are actually promiscuous then I would agree with you, yeah you should be corrected because screwing around with any girl you see anywhere could be bad, for your health and for any other reasons as well.

You are making a ridiculous comparison between being promiscuous and a person's sexual orientation, again, what else can we expect from you?


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Therefore, it would be for my own good that they correct me, so that I will stop sinning against God and making Him angry.

Yeah, you need to be corrected I agree, not them. Good luck with that.


Ragtime wrote:
God doesn't need you, but you DO need God. We all do.

Some people need to believe in God, some people don't, what we all need is more common sense, more advancement in every aspect as human beings, including the same rights for everyone, equality and no more discrimination, that would be great, wouldn't it?

Are you trying to shove your beliefs down other people's throats now? like Kilroy? because it seems that you are everytime the subject is brought up, no wonder you were getting a strong objection from a few people here, because it gets annoying, especially to those who are affected.


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