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31 May 2009, 11:21 pm

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Those dirty atheists make me so angry!! :x


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31 May 2009, 11:31 pm

I think I've covered this before.

I'm actually rather pleasant if you met me in person.

What anger I do have stems from actually having some understanding of the world. Some of the worst people experience no pain and live wonderful lives, some of the best people experience nothing but pain and live horrible lives. Life is not fair. There is no sky God protecting us, there is only random chaos.

I love people. I really do. I love all people. I wish I could help everyone, but it's just not possible. There really is nothing to be done. The futility of it all angers me. Understanding human nature as I do angers me even further. The OP angers me. Shadowgirl angers me. Not because I am some hateful person, but because I am a LOVING person. It is the human deficiencies I so readily am aware of that anger me. It is not so much that you are somehow the cause of all these problems, but that your deficiencies serve only to remind me of the futility of it all.

I am angry out of love.



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01 Jun 2009, 10:41 am

vibratetogether wrote:
I think I've covered this before.

I'm actually rather pleasant if you met me in person.

What anger I do have stems from actually having some understanding of the world. Some of the worst people experience no pain and live wonderful lives, some of the best people experience nothing but pain and live horrible lives. Life is not fair. There is no sky God protecting us, there is only random chaos.

I love people. I really do. I love all people. I wish I could help everyone, but it's just not possible. There really is nothing to be done. The futility of it all angers me. Understanding human nature as I do angers me even further. The OP angers me. Shadowgirl angers me. Not because I am some hateful person, but because I am a LOVING person. It is the human deficiencies I so readily am aware of that anger me. It is not so much that you are somehow the cause of all these problems, but that your deficiencies serve only to remind me of the futility of it all.

I am angry out of love.


That's noble though, and I respect it.

I can see where people who have lets say 90% + assurance toward atheism, that they would have reason to be angry if people won't stop hook-kicking and jabbing at them over their beliefs - I don't like seeing, and equally I get irritated when I see the tables flipped the other way. What you mentioned above I think is a very common sentiment about the human condition, one that can be held by an atheist, a theist, a deist, an agnostic.



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01 Jun 2009, 11:42 am

philosopher wrote:
Why are they so angry?


Well, I don't know about "them," but I'm angry because so many extreme Christians believe that their way is the only way, and the rest of us must conform. They want to make our children pray to their god in school. They want to outlaw homosexuality - they even believe that AIDS was a punishment from god for homosexuals. They want to outlaw abortion under penalty of death for both the doctor and the woman. They want to make us acknowledge the existence of god when we declare our allegiance to our country. They want to post their own morality (the ten commandments) in our courtrooms. How many more have I left out?

That's why I'm angry.


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01 Jun 2009, 12:29 pm

They put their religion on our money, they want to teach mythology rather than science in biology classes, some of them bother us by ringing our doorbells to tell us their nonsense...



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01 Jun 2009, 12:35 pm

MattShizzle wrote:
They put their religion on our money, they want to teach mythology rather than science in biology classes, some of them bother us by ringing our doorbells to tell us their nonsense...


Some of those annoying symbols on the currency are Pagan, not Christian. That Eye on the Pyramid is of Gnostic origin. If you find the currency offensive, buy gold or silver and use that to do your purchasing. Or better yet, use credit cards and electronic fund transfer. That way you will never has to see those pesky symbols.

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01 Jun 2009, 12:44 pm

ruveyn wrote:
MattShizzle wrote:
They put their religion on our money, they want to teach mythology rather than science in biology classes, some of them bother us by ringing our doorbells to tell us their nonsense...


Some of those annoying symbols on the currency are Pagan, not Christian. That Eye on the Pyramid is of Gnostic origin. If you find the currency offensive, buy gold or silver and use that to do your purchasing. Or better yet, use credit cards and electronic fund transfer. That way you will never has to see those pesky symbols.

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How about "in god we trust"... is that pagan too?


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01 Jun 2009, 12:59 pm

ed wrote:

How about "in god we trust"... is that pagan too?


No. That is theistic. It wasn't always on our currency by the way. I remember when it wasn't.

As I said, use credit cards, checks and E.F.T. . That way you will never have to see any offensive symbols or texts.

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01 Jun 2009, 1:05 pm

ruveyn wrote:
ed wrote:

How about "in god we trust"... is that pagan too?


No. That is theistic. It wasn't always on our currency by the way. I remember when it wasn't.

As I said, use credit cards, checks and E.F.T. . That way you will never have to see any offensive symbols or texts.


Why should we have your god on it? It's our currency too. The money should be for all the people, not just the christians.



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01 Jun 2009, 1:09 pm

They should take it off. It was on a few coins as early as the 1860's but wasn't on all of it until the 1950s. It is divisive and even if you could manage what you said (some places still don't take credit cards, plus vending machines and such) our tax money still pays for printing/coining the money. It excludes those who don't believe in a god, along with those who believe in multiple gods and some Christians who find puting it on money blasphemous.



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01 Jun 2009, 2:55 pm

Techstep...is that supposed to be bacon or steak on the griddle there? :? Bacon=not so appealing. Steak=would be very nice to have a nice steak sometime soon. Your tactic of distracting me with food has worked... :wink:


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01 Jun 2009, 3:07 pm

Frying steak would be an abomination though. As is cooking it well done. Other food abominations include light beer, pineapple on pizza and flavored coffee.



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01 Jun 2009, 4:56 pm

MattShizzle wrote:
Frying steak would be an abomination though.

Would be, or >>>is<<<?

Yumm!


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01 Jun 2009, 9:46 pm

Oh, I don't know about that fried steak= abomination thing. Ever have filet mignon cubed and fried with garlic butter Benihana style? Quite tasty... 8)


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