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I am very concerned about the preservation of white heritage/race 8%  8%  [ 16 ]
I believe the above concern is unfounded and racist 54%  54%  [ 104 ]
I think the view in option #1 raises some good issues, but SOME people take it too far 13%  13%  [ 25 ]
I think the view in option #1 raises some good issues, but MANY people take it too far 8%  8%  [ 15 ]
show me the money (view results) 17%  17%  [ 32 ]
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09 Jun 2009, 6:14 am

I can't help thinking of an old Steve Wright joke:

"I used to think correlation was causation, then I studied a statistics course and now I know better. Did the course help? I can never be sure."



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09 Jun 2009, 10:52 am

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Why is it that most illegals happen to come from Mexico? It may not be caused by race but there is a definite correlation.


Well, that would be an issue of nationalism, economics, and geography as opposed to race. Like the US of A, the US of Mexico has many different genetic races - European, Indian, African, with mestizo, mulatto, and sambo hybrids.



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09 Jun 2009, 11:50 am

I think that I'm not racist. I have a few prejudices (a few accents really bother me, especially Indian), but I think I'm able to ignore those and realize that we are all people and all deserve the same rights.



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10 Jun 2009, 9:24 pm

I do not consider myself a racist.Anyone who is qualified, should have the right to a job, regardless of what their skin colour or ethnicity."Affirmative Action" is racist because it discriminates against whites. whereby, someone of a minority who is less qualified than the white applicant, still gets precedent over the white applicant because of their skin colour.The Canadian Indian Reserve system is racist, because Natives are stuck on reserves and given handouts instead of hand ups.The reserves have perpetual poverty, addiction, alcaholism, and abuse because the children are given no opportunities to succeed because they are used to the life of living welfare check after welfare check, and no real motivation to get ahead and better themselves.The reserves are like little third world countries within a sovereign first world nation.In a sense, they are like the ghettos of nazi germany but there are no barbed wire fences or gestapo guards keeping them in.They are kept in by dependance, perpetual poverty, addiction, etc.The only way we can liberate them, is to abolish the reserve system, expropriate the land from the band leaders, and distribute the property each family lives on, to that family and have that property in that family's name.Then offer them job opportunities, rehabilitation, and counselling.


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11 Jun 2009, 5:41 am

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I will not comment on what autistics think, but do not believe whites are the only ones who are racist.


Well no, there is racism from all ethnicities, racism is a foul plague with which humanity is badly tainted, with nationalism a close second


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11 Jun 2009, 8:01 am

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It's incredibly difficult not to feel enraged when I see the deterioration and decay of American cities. ... Shouldn't our cities be taken well care of? Shouldn't American cities be booming centers of tourism and industry as opposed to hellholes laden with crime and decay? Shouldn't urban inhabitants show some respect for the cities they live in?


Well, the inner cities were abandoned by people with money and an intact culture - they moved to the suburbs. This created an opening for poor, uneducated people to move in. Sprinkle some drug abuse, unemployment and despair onto the mix based on transiency, and the results are predictable. We are seeing another round of this from the real estate boom and bust - 2 houses in my neighborhood are in foreclosure and the lawn is growing tall with weeds. There is a game of 'moving up' that many people play ... buy something 'better' further out when you can afford it. Better schools, bigger lawns farther away from the city in new towns.

Part of it is inevitable, but it is more pronounced in America. There is a frontier mentality - most people don't want to stay put and maintain a community - they love to move to new communities, build them, and abandon them.



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11 Jun 2009, 9:08 am

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Are many autistics racist?


i did not answer the poll because i can only talk for myself. i can not talk on behalf of many autistics.
also none of the options applied to me anyway.
i wonder why there is so much angst over the concept of "racism".

what is "racism"?
i have thought about it a bit and i think that the term is generally used to describe someone who looks down on another race and finds them inferior. it is also used to describe "hatred" toward another person because they are from a different race.

i am not that way at all. i believe all people have the same right to live.

but there is a second definition of "racist" that is the "implied" one.
if you can see and identify racial characteristics, are you racist?

i mean if you see a man who is black and has a flat nose and black woolly hair and looks like a negro, then you will say he looks like a negro if you are asked to say where you think he originates from.

that does not mean you think he is bad, but it means to many people that you are racist.

people often impute "racism" into any sentences that describe differences in race.

i am totally uneducated on this so sorry you grads, but i think that there are 5 phenotypes (that i remember).

they are "caucasoid" and "mongoloid" and "negroid" and "australoid" and "capoid" strains.

i am caucasoid and negros are negroid, and asians and north american indians etc are mongoloid, and australian aborigines are australoid. i do not know what capoid is really.

i can see that there are differences in various aptitudes between those phenotypes. that may make me racist in another sense.
but i do believe that everyone deserves the same chance to live their life no matter who they are. animals are also in this belief (of course).



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11 Jun 2009, 12:16 pm

Personally, I find no problems with the way people look, because im not one to judge. It was never about that. It's just the way some people behave, "steriotypical behavior" you could say, like "gangsters" for example. I judge people by their character. I have friends of all ethnicities, but there are some people who are cruel, not only to me but everyone. There will always be different types of people. You cannot hate a person for their evolutionary features, because it has nothing to do with intellegence or creativity. That part depends on their environment and how they were raised. I think that each person has different views on this, and that to say if "are many autistic people are rasist" is semi - irrelavent. I can understand the socialogy aspect of this though and the pyscological aspect. I also think that it isn't only white people who can be racist. It is rediculous who in class some poeple of different ethnicities can misbehave, and when the teacher sends them out for being disruptive they bring out the "racist" card. Im just ranting, ignore me XD



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11 Jun 2009, 10:42 pm

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Despite my extensive arguing about "racism and doublethink", I'm not actually racist and don't hold racist views. I do see everyone as equal until they prove otherwise themselves. But I think that preserving culture in general is important, and not just white culture; Every culture is valuable and should be preserved. But I don't see skin colour as a factor in preserving culture, an Indian girl can be as British as a white person imo. But I think if someone moves to a country they should adopt that culture, as I don't like the idea of national cultures being diluted to the point that visiting england is the same as visiting france, apart from the language difference


Culture has nothing to do with the topic. Also, cultural assimilation is unavoidable, it has always taken place, and will always continue to do so. An ancient example would be Greco-Roman culture, Greco-Celt culture, or Indo-Scythian culture. A modern example would be the Japanese culture which is a fusion of western and eastern culture.

It's up to the individual whether he/she is up to preserving cultural heritage. Cultural heritage can't be preserved by force.



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12 Jun 2009, 3:36 pm

Can only speak for myself here; I do not care about race (racial differences are only b/c of how much melanin your skin cells synthesize) :D . Everyone is obviously equal (just compare everyone's palms) :) . I have had friends of multiple races & try to avoid generalizing. Though I will admit race is necessary in some cases for identification and medical purposes. Its a touchy area though.



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12 Jun 2009, 5:31 pm

Timeisdead, I share your concerns regarding the degradation of American cities, but in my view, illegal immigration has little to nothing to do with this phenomena. I think you should be looking more at the decline of America's manufacturing base, white flight, and the lack of proper funding of infrastructure improvements.



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12 Jun 2009, 5:44 pm

monty wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
It's incredibly difficult not to feel enraged when I see the deterioration and decay of American cities. ... Shouldn't our cities be taken well care of? Shouldn't American cities be booming centers of tourism and industry as opposed to hellholes laden with crime and decay? Shouldn't urban inhabitants show some respect for the cities they live in?


Well, the inner cities were abandoned by people with money and an intact culture - they moved to the suburbs. This created an opening for poor, uneducated people to move in. Sprinkle some drug abuse, unemployment and despair onto the mix based on transiency, and the results are predictable. We are seeing another round of this from the real estate boom and bust - 2 houses in my neighborhood are in foreclosure and the lawn is growing tall with weeds. There is a game of 'moving up' that many people play ... buy something 'better' further out when you can afford it. Better schools, bigger lawns farther away from the city in new towns.

Part of it is inevitable, but it is more pronounced in America. There is a frontier mentality - most people don't want to stay put and maintain a community - they love to move to new communities, build them, and abandon them.


But how is poverty an excuse to rape and murder?



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12 Jun 2009, 5:51 pm

vibratetogether wrote:
Timeisdead, I share your concerns regarding the degradation of American cities, but in my view, illegal immigration has little to nothing to do with this phenomena. I think you should be looking more at the decline of America's manufacturing base, white flight, and the lack of proper funding of infrastructure improvements.


I did mention both problems separately. In Detroit, middle class whites as well as upwardly mobile blacks fled to the suburbs in droves during the 1960s, leaving nothing but a poor underclass without its educated peers. Many manufacturing jobs were lost in the city. In addition, many small business owners went elsewhere, fearing for their lives. Much of this stemmed from the riots and resulting racial tensions. The rioters had no excuse to torch the city into flames. I see poverty as no excuse to commit arson or to rape or murder innocent people.



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12 Jun 2009, 6:14 pm

timeisdead wrote:
vibratetogether wrote:
Timeisdead, I share your concerns regarding the degradation of American cities, but in my view, illegal immigration has little to nothing to do with this phenomena. I think you should be looking more at the decline of America's manufacturing base, white flight, and the lack of proper funding of infrastructure improvements.


I did mention both problems separately. In Detroit, middle class whites as well as upwardly mobile blacks fled to the suburbs in droves during the 1960s, leaving nothing but a poor underclass without its educated peers. Many manufacturing jobs were lost in the city. In addition, many small business owners went elsewhere, fearing for their lives. Much of this stemmed from the riots and resulting racial tensions. The rioters had no excuse to torch the city into flames. I see poverty as no excuse to commit arson or to rape or murder innocent people.


I agree with you, though perhaps I look at it from a slightly different angle. It seems we share many of the same concerns.



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12 Jun 2009, 11:01 pm

Certain immigration is a drop of poison to a society. There are some good muslims, but those are the ones who are not very religious. I'm not saying this from a western heritage point of view. The japanese have well founded xenophobia. I would say that even European or Canadian immigration would poison their ancient civilized culture to a point of no return.
P.S. No racial undertones intended.



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12 Jun 2009, 11:12 pm

Hell, why don't we just bring all the different native american cultures back for some of us living in the U.S. and Canada. Maybe that would help in this confusion most people seem to have in "Keeping their heritage and culture"...in a country filled with a many generations of immigrants, cultures, and religions. I mean this crap about american or western culture confuses me anymore since there's so many countries in the east that have adapted much of our western culture.


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