Thinking about renouncing Christianity

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Exactly.



Why would an Aspie be less tolerant?



I would have to. I am labeled as being intolerant because I don't wear old blue jeans and a Che Guevara T-shirt everywhere I go.



I meant that if you're not "textbook" when it comes to cliques, you face instant rejection.

I live in the Midwest and I have had fairly decent luck with women. I've never had a relationship with a woman who was exactly like me nor would I want to either. The differences are what make it interesting and they have all been NT's too. Dating an Aspie, which I've never done, is no gaurantee of anything.

If my wife had followed the teachings of Confucious, especially the one in my sig., then we might still be married. She was NT and she decided no more sex for me so I went and had an affair which turned out to be the smartest move I ever made in life. Completely changed my view of women for the better.

Well, Tim Tex... I should introduce you to my ex husband. He's an aspie, who is an obsessive film buff, into sci fi, seventies television, loved Buffy the Vampire Slayer, horror movies, etc etc... and would call himself Christian. He's happily remarried, and lives in England, or you two guys should have a pint together.

The world is full of people you can connect with. You sound so much like him it's uncanny.

You know, if you're a Christian, you could always consider simply praying, and asking God to help you in this.

This is an assumption, not a fact.

One of my favorite movies of all time is Amelie - an extremely artsy French film. I have every episode of Beavis and Butthead and nearly every episode of the Simpsons, because those shows are awesome. Travelling doesn't particularly interest me, but my mom loves it.

I also love horror movies where people are running around screaming and getting dismembered in fascinating ways.

I don't fit your stereotype very well, do I? Most people don't fit stereotypes very well. Stereotypes usually have some truth to them (otherwise the stereotype would be different), but they aren't very accurate predictors of anything specific.


Why are you chained to those two cities?

In any case, you're wrong about there being nobody who fits your criteria there. There are about 3.6 million people in that area. Someone in that area fits your criteria fairly well.

Your criteria should not be set in stone. Someone who fits your criteria might be easier to like, but that is not a guarantee; nor is it a guarantee that someone who doesn't fit your criteria won't like you.

I've got criteria for female physical attractiveness. Her hair should be a) long, b) straight, and c) black. But I can think of two women I've met with short, curly, blonde hair that were gorgeous. I'm also not generally attracted to asian women -- but Lucy Liu is still a hottie. Don't put too much faith in your criteria.


Not being in a clique won't hurt you, and if being in the 'right' clique is the only thing making someone like you, they probably won't like you that much anyway.

Traveling/Outdoor stuff: Simply because I am always around people with rather sedentary lifestyles.

Simpsons/South Park/artsy stuff: Many Christians are offended by the content in those things. Also, because they are done for artistic merit, indie/art-house films can bypass the MPAA ratings system. Content can very. Some can be family-friendy, but some have content equivalent to a movie that is rated NC-17. It is that reason that social conservatives hate indie stuff.

Location: I am in school in this area. (I am in San Marcos, halfway between Austin and SA). Aspie + same interests + sexually compatible + local = disappointment.

Have you considered looking into the Mormon religion? Jehovah's Witnesses? Seventh Day Adventists? Christian Scientists?

I've heard of people getting romantically involved with Mormons, but then requiring a full conversion to get married. Once you're in, as long as you follow the rules and belief systems, you are "accepted." If you are willing to alter your belief system in order to be "accepted" and to get a wife, then there you go.

My wife's sister married a Seventh Day Adventist. She used to wear nothing but shorts and pants. (No, silly, I don't mean that she went around topless). Now, she is no longer allowed to wear shorts and pants. Only dresses or skirts, and only dresses or skirts that extend below the knee. Before she met him, I don't think that she owned a dress.

She used to like eating shrimps, crabs and pork. Now, she lives on tofu and brown rice.

Since she married him, we rarely hear from her any more.

You sound like you're willing to be malleable. If you would consider renouncing Christianity, then why wouldn't you be willing to give up your favourite cartoons if it would mean "acceptance?"

Oh, for pity's sake, if you're going to give up "Christianity" (and nobody yet knows what that word means to you) PLEASE let me caution you against going Mormon or JW. Seriously... the JW translation of the Bible is so bad that someone must have deliberately sat down and thought, "what can we mess up here... hey, what about this! That will mess things up!" Whereas the Mormons book is just painfully, horribly, wrong, literally from the very first line. (Don't get me started on it...) I need a head banging smiley, but I can't be bothered to find it.

Here you go, mgran!

Yeah, SDA tends to be a lot more restrictive than many of the other Protestant denominations, including the rules about not eating "unclean" food like shellfish and pork... but the rule about women not being allowed to wear pants is unusual. My uncle is an SDA pastor, and his wife (my aunt) wears pants all the time, even at church. This is not considered heretical by any means. However, stuff like wearing makeup or jewelry indeed aren't common. Vegetarianism is very common, but not required. SDA folks are generally accepting, not very judgmental nor hypocritical, it's just that the moral standard is quite high, and they actually walk the walk instead of simply talk the talk. While I don't share the SDA belief in Jesus Christ (I'm atheist), I do admire the sincere, down-to-earth undramatized approach to the world and their unwavering dedication to charity and helping others, and if I were to join a Christian denomination, SDA would be it. For Tim though? I don't know... SDA isn't terribly permissive about stuff on TV, and I don't see many run-of-the-mill SDA women liking the Simpsons or South Park. Premarital sex would also be a definite no-no. It'd definitely be a change from his current beliefs, that's for sure!

Yikes. And I thought Baptists were strict.

I am Lutheran, if that helps. Lutherans tend to be more permissive than most of the other denominations.

I don't think that the wrongness of the religious text is the issue here. We're simply looking for a little love and acceptance. If it means giving up cartoons and Christianity, then so be it.

I'm going to be very frank here and say that

1. As an athiest I think people should renounce religion

but

2. They should actually have a a philisophical reason for doing so. If your going to sell out your beliefs just so people will like you then, to be brutally honest, you are pathetic, and I wouldn't have anything to do with you anyway. I'm sorry if that's harsh sounding.

Well... If you want company, you could always go for Scientology. All you have to let go is your soul, your personality, your money, and your ability to think critically. Watch as your friends and family slowly fall away as you interrogate them, calling them "criminals" and "suppressives" and only associate yourself with your fellow religio-drones.

Anyway, crazy Ron's UFO cult aside, if you don't mind me asking: Are you actually a Christian? Do you believe in God? Of all your responses here, you haven't addressed those two issues. I "experimented" with religion for some time, and I realized that I couldn't be religious without actually believing in God. So if you're not decided, you need to decide and whatever your choice, do not do it for social reasons; that's the hallmark of a weak-minded individual.

No, there are plenty of people who go to Church for purely social or economic reasons.

well, one thing about SDAs is that they don't believe in getting involved in politics at all, in that regard, I can say that they do promote and respect the idea of separation of church and state, the idea that the law shouldn't force people to live a prefered lifestyle based on Christian values, I think many of them (from what I have seen and heard, though I may be generalizing too much) seem to be against the ban of gay marriage, as some think that to be more of a spiritual personal God-man relationship (a Free Choice) rather than something needed to be enforced politically.

In the sense that I'm trying to obey the laws and moral behaviour guidelines of the faith, as much as possible. There are no groups or factions here.