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10 Feb 2006, 11:42 am

Nomaken wrote: I wish i was religious so i could admit to the unreligious people that i practice a religion, and i practice MY religion for very specific reasons.




Maybe you do have a religion and just don't know it, yet. After all, religion is just a belief and practice. Some people religiously keep up personal hygeine or watch a particular show. If you pretty much live life for yourself, avioding pain and seeking pleasure, then your religion is hedonism. That is your religious faith and practice. I'm not saying this is actually the case, but maybe you could come up with something. Of course, if you want to be correct, you'll come along to my way of thinking (that's a joke, by the way,even though I do believe it to be true)
I have not disregarded your posts on this thread. They're very endearing in a weird sort of way. I just didn't respond to them right away.


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10 Feb 2006, 1:51 pm

I understand that english is a living language, and you could define religion as any beliefs or practices you believe in. And I can also see how practicing some routine passionately is like a religious dedication. But not all faith needs be in something you would identify as a religion. I have faith that my seat belt is made of a sufficiently strong material to not break in a head on collision at 20 mph. And at the base of all knowledge you must eventually have faith, but it needent necessarily be in a religion.

I'm not trying to nitpick the definition, but I understand a religion to be some kind of systematically arranged set of beliefs in a supernatural explanation of the universe and, in a lot of cases, the arrangement of morality.

And the big reason i dont see my beliefs as a religion is because I see god as being natural, not supernatural. :D


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10 Feb 2006, 5:29 pm

(referring to the nature of the bible)

I spose I'm somewhat 'self taught' about these matters, I just read books on it, so I don't always understand the various distinctions of thought about these things. I think it's an excellent user manual for life too, you can certainly use it as a practical guide to get thru life and avoid trouble. There's lots of very sound advice and examples there.



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10 Feb 2006, 6:41 pm

Postperson, of course that is true, too. I just resist the idea that the Bible is highly interpretive. I think it has one meaning, maybe more than one application. (maybe)


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10 Feb 2006, 6:45 pm

Nomaken wrote:
I'm not trying to nitpick the definition, but I understand a religion to be some kind of systematically arranged set of beliefs in a supernatural explanation of the universe and, in a lot of cases, the arrangement of morality.




Thank you for more accurately defining the word. I used it loosely to be facetious. I stand corrected. (I don't really go for the "living language" crap because it confuses language, even though I know it exists)


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11 Feb 2006, 12:35 am

Bland,

I understand your amazement about the number of Aspies on this forum who do not believe the Bible. I have also come to the conclusion that Christianity/Messianic Judaism is the most intellectually coherent, logical, and rational belief system out there. The fact is that Jesus Christ has definitely changed my life. I know that I am not perfect, but I know that I am forgiven by grace through faith. Here is where an online Aspie Christian fellowship would be helpful. I think that one of the reasons why many Aspies on this forum do not accept the Bible is that they think that it goes against all logic and reason. I also believe that it is important to let people know how Jesus has changed our Aspie selves, and how that we are continual works in progress. Many people also seem to lump Christianity/Messianic Judaism together with Islam. When it comes down to our faith, we are not talking about religion--we are talking about a relationship with the living God. Witnessing is not proselytism--it is telling people what we believe, and why we believe it, and leave the rest to God.


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11 Feb 2006, 1:28 am

CRB wrote:
Here is the link:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/aspautchrist/start

We need a few more people to sign up on this forum--for some reason, it has become rather dead. Please help liven it up and transform it into a real online ASD Christian fellowship.


SO... there IS a place for Christian Aspies on the web!!
Thanks for posting that, CRB.
It's time to liven things up in there! Hopefully...
We seem to be a small minority; I'm glad someone started that online-community.



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11 Feb 2006, 3:01 am

The reason i make it a point to not consider what i do a religion is because that particular word has been poisoned over the course of its usage, and i'd like not to associate myself with it, even though any belief system can be in a sense considered a religion. It is kind of like how I decline to say I believe in god. The only reason i say that is because the word god has been poisoned by misusage(and evolved) to be different from what i believe in.


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11 Feb 2006, 10:27 pm

I'm Christian, and don't feel like reading all of the posts.


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12 Feb 2006, 12:05 pm

Ladysmokeater wrote:
I think perhaps, that if the "flaming" of one view point or the next didnt happen Christian aspies would feel more comfortable.....

Just my opinion


And by that same token so would atheist aspies and aspies of different religions or are you suggesting that Christian aspies are only on the recieving end of "flaming" and not partaking in it?



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14 Feb 2006, 8:31 am

Eamonn-I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't been involved in that, I hope. It is typical, I suppose, when people have heated debates about things that they feel define them as a person. I try not to get too hot about opposing religious views. It's really quite simple. I'm right; everone else is wrong; they have the right to be wrong if they like. (joke)


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14 Feb 2006, 2:11 pm

I find the trick is to know im right but not to point it out too brazenly. I always keep my mind open to other people's views though, as "even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day". :wink:



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15 Feb 2006, 10:09 am

I am an Aspie Chrsitian here as well, and I agree with CRB about the Delphi forums, as I post there occasionally under the same screen name.


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15 Feb 2006, 2:00 pm

Eamonn wrote:
I find the trick is to know im right but not to point it out too brazenly.


Brazen is good; that way people don't have to guess where you stand.


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02 Aug 2006, 9:45 pm

*raises hand as a Christian aspie*



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03 Aug 2006, 3:15 pm

Reflection wrote:
As a member of the spiritual God-fearing asperger community, I would be in favor of a place for us to congregate. And I know you're out there.

If not one of them finds this post, please still respect that I have differing beliefs.
Thanks.


Add a poll, for or against. I am certainly for it.