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09 Oct 2009, 3:55 am

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My opinion is that all of the Abrahamic religions are rubbish, all careful schemes devised to control people.


Amen to that. :thumright:

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Christianity is the one that I hate the most, they always try to convert everyone and I take offense to being told that I'm going to be in pain forever in some place called hell.


I sooo concur.

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Islam doesn't bother me, they don't seem to try and convert people as much as Christians do, the extremists are bad news but there are hardly a lot of them.


Praise be to Allah, or burn infidels? :?

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Jews are fine, they keep to themselves and don't even mention their religion in my experience.


That's because they're usually on the receiving end of the "burning."


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09 Oct 2009, 10:21 am

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What is the bible to me?.."The greatest story ever told."...(So i wonder,in 2000 years,will people be worshipping Luke Skywalker?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism



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09 Oct 2009, 10:54 am

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Here is what you have not seen. Bahai, Budhists, and Orhtodox Jews hijacking planes, making I.E.D.s and strapping on the bombs.

Do you discern a difference?


Most certainly ... but what might be a common thread or bit of knowledge there?


Yes, there is most definitely a difference. I have wondered if some of it might be due to inbreeding. It's fairly common for Muslims to have first cousins marry each other and have children. Over generations it has to make an impact.

A psychologist I once knew thought that maybe the reason why many Muslims are so different, have so truble blending in in the western world, might be related to them being the majority where they came from. They aren't used to submit themselves to other cultures. Interesting idea but I don't know what to make of it.

But Muslims are different. Whenever they demonstrate, here or abroad, the demonstrations usually get out of hand. Just in the beginning of this year they broke lots of windows and even fired fireworks against people and pretty much turned Oslo downtown into a warzone when they "demonstrated" against the war in Gaza. When other people demonstrate the demo can get out of hand, but it's far from the rule.

There's even a difference in the terror! Most terrorists (ETA, IRA) simply want their land liberated. They want to send a clear message to the government of the oppressors, but they don't really want to kill the 'enemy' civvis, so they place bombs and then call in a warning so the police can evacuate the area. Sometimes it fails, but their goal isn't to kill. I even remember once when ETA placed a bomb on the beach in Spain. The police came, evacuated, searched for the bomb but couldn't find it. They opened the beach. Then ETA called again and repeated the warning.
Yeah that's almost the same as al Qaida, Hamas and Jihad :roll: whose goal is to eliminate "the big and the little Satan" (USA and Israel) and kill as many 'infidels' as possible.

I have known quite a few Jews. A few hated Muslims with every ounce of their being, a few were very tolerant, most fell on the middle of that spectrum.
I have known quite a few Muslims. Only one of them was not anti-Semitic.
I find that interesting...



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09 Oct 2009, 11:18 am

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I bet no one has even cared that you're Jewish in the past 20 years


I can’t speak for Ruveyn’s experiences, but Norwegian Jews sure are being targeted. I have aqcuaintances who are receiving threats in the mail from our beloved new countrymen. Quite a few of them have received such letters, or been threatened in person simply because they’re Jewish. A little boy, he was 8 or 9, was stopped by a gang of Palestinian teens just by his house. He was asked if his mother was Israeli. He confirmed that. Then he was hit and told that if they ever saw him again they’d kill him. His parents pressed charges but the cops couldn’t do anthing. All they said was that the boy mustn’t go out alone as they can’t ensure his safety. A Jewish woman was stopped on the street by a group of men and beaten. She didn’t dare press charges. Most of them don’t. I know that many of these decent people live in constant fear when it’s at its worst.

Muslims seem to think that persecuting Jews here is a good way to solve the Middle East conflict. I remember the outcry of the Muslims when a mosque received a threat after 11 Sept. “They had nothing to do with that!” They should sweep before their own door.



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09 Oct 2009, 11:33 am

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Not sure where you are coming from, but I'll bite.

My Wife is jewish, and my family generally considers itself Christian.

As for myself, I am most certainly an Atheist. My own research, knowledge along with an inability to understand faith brings me to this.

Both religions are derived from Astrological/pagan beginnings, then to Egyption/greek mythology, and finally morphing into the Judeo Christian faiths we know today (including Islam). I just can't take it all too seriously, especially once I found out that the story of Christ is one of the most oft repeated mythological stories in mans history (funny how a major figure in many of the worlds belief systems all share the same story line ie virgin birth, executed, risen from dead after 3 days etc etc). Each to their own, but thats my attitude.


If you are into Egyptian/Greek Mythology you should try Polytheism,
I was an atheist before adapting the Polytheist title,
when I was an atheist, I believed in the god of Catholicism,
but I didnt and still don't believe that God has the ultimate power it says it has,
plus i think its a bit big headed when on the first page on the bible god says
"I am the one and only god" (or sumthing very similiar)/.....
Polytheism is believing in the Gods and Godesses of Greek/Egyptian
and other mythologies, out of respect for my partly Christian family,
I do respect Jesus and Mary (more Mary as I know a bit more about her),
and about the "Catholic Jew God", I do think it doesn't exist, so im atheist in that sense,
I believe if god was anything it would be the chemical, or the device that was used to create existance and the galaxy etc
If I had to choose between Christianity and Judaism I'd choose Judaism, as I like what Ive read about the Kabbala and the tree of life



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09 Oct 2009, 11:38 am

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I'm a Christian, albeit not a very good one...;)


Dont ever let the church make you think you are not a good Christian, the fact you call yourself a Christian should be respect enough, IMO strict Christians and Muslims are wrong, they are behind probably the most wars and fuelling the biggest slanderous lies and promote bs instinct skills and morality codes of conduct



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09 Oct 2009, 11:55 am

Jewish Supremacists AKA Zionists are just as bad as the Nazi's AKA German Supremacists they try to attack

Im partly Hungarian and German and I neither agree with what Hitler did nor disagree,
obviously Hitler grew to envy and despise the Jews because they were taking over his country,
When the wars/depression (cant remember which) started the Jews started buying
up all the real estate and shops in German, thats why Hilter hated the Jews,
because they used to tease the Germans and make fun of them when they
had no homes and hardly any food, i
admit Hitler was a crazy egomaniac killer,
but i do support the fact he was trying to Strengthen GERMANS,
when they needed it, and he DID help them, there is no denying that....
btw im not a Holocaust denier but I don't believe as many Jews were
killed in death camps as the official amount was stated

btw I heard a rumor that Jews are trying to take over my beloved country of Hungary (by shipping in more Jews), that they are behind the
Gypsy Criminals and the police are apparently not doing much about them, thats why I support the Hungarian Guard,
"they" should be the police, "they" the proud Hungarians, well thats what I think anyways

Long live Hungary Forever! may the Magyar Rule over our land and no more land be taken from us like the last "treaty", it makes me sick, our ancestors have died over that land and our enemies AS WELL as our allies let parts of the country be taken, May the Magyar have much luck against the Zionist Jew, may the Magyar team up with the Hungarian Jews and lead Hungary into a glorious future!



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09 Oct 2009, 2:29 pm

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Jewish Supremacists AKA Zionists are just as bad as the Nazi's AKA German Supremacists they try to attack

Im partly Hungarian and German and I neither agree with what Hitler did nor disagree,
obviously Hitler grew to envy and despise the Jews because they were taking over his country,
When the wars/depression (cant remember which) started the Jews started buying
up all the real estate and shops in German, thats why Hilter hated the Jews,
because they used to tease the Germans and make fun of them when they
had no homes and hardly any food, i
admit Hitler was a crazy egomaniac killer,
but i do support the fact he was trying to Strengthen GERMANS,
when they needed it, and he DID help them, there is no denying that....
btw im not a Holocaust denier but I don't believe as many Jews were
killed in death camps as the official amount was stated

btw I heard a rumor that Jews are trying to take over my beloved country of Hungary (by shipping in more Jews), that they are behind the
Gypsy Criminals and the police are apparently not doing much about them, thats why I support the Hungarian Guard,
"they" should be the police, "they" the proud Hungarians, well thats what I think anyways

Long live Hungary Forever! may the Magyar Rule over our land and no more land be taken from us like the last "treaty", it makes me sick, our ancestors have died over that land and our enemies AS WELL as our allies let parts of the country be taken, May the Magyar have much luck against the Zionist Jew, may the Magyar team up with the Hungarian Jews and lead Hungary into a glorious future!



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09 Oct 2009, 3:31 pm

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I bet no one has even cared that you're Jewish in the past 20 years


I can’t speak for Ruveyn’s experiences, but Norwegian Jews sure are being targeted. I have aqcuaintances who are receiving threats in the mail from our beloved new countrymen. Quite a few of them have received such letters, or been threatened in person simply because they’re Jewish. A little boy, he was 8 or 9, was stopped by a gang of Palestinian teens just by his house. He was asked if his mother was Israeli. He confirmed that. Then he was hit and told that if they ever saw him again they’d kill him. His parents pressed charges but the cops couldn’t do anthing. All they said was that the boy mustn’t go out alone as they can’t ensure his safety. A Jewish woman was stopped on the street by a group of men and beaten. She didn’t dare press charges. Most of them don’t. I know that many of these decent people live in constant fear when it’s at its worst.

Muslims seem to think that persecuting Jews here is a good way to solve the Middle East conflict. I remember the outcry of the Muslims when a mosque received a threat after 11 Sept. “They had nothing to do with that!” They should sweep before their own door.


What an interesting way to spin something.

You take my comment, cite a couple cases as if it's the norm, and then even work in a jab against the Muslims. You don't happen to be on the IDF payroll, eh? Maybe ADL?


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09 Oct 2009, 8:08 pm

My mom was Catholic, my dad was Jewish, and my sister was in Jews for Jesus (are they even still around?). Growing up, my friends were about 50/50. I'm not a fan of generalizing, but in my own experiences I've found Christians to be more open-armed, with the underlying assumption that it is possible to convert anyone to their beliefs. Jews tend to be more cautious and hesitant to accept outsiders (wonder why :wink: ), but I have yet to meet a Jew that wished to convert anyone to their own beliefs.

I have also experienced prejudice from both sides, usually in the context of dating. With almost every guy that I dated, the idea of bringing me home to meet his parents was always a source of contention. Most Jewish mothers do not want their sons to bring home a Catholic girl, and most Christian mothers do not want their sons dating a girl with a Jewish last name. I never could seem to win and ended up marrying an Athiest :D .



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09 Oct 2009, 8:36 pm

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My mom was Catholic, my dad was Jewish, and my sister was in Jews for Jesus (are they even still around?). Growing up, my friends were about 50/50. I'm not a fan of generalizing, but in my own experiences I've found Christians to be more open-armed, with the underlying assumption that it is possible to convert anyone to their beliefs. Jews tend to be more cautious and hesitant to accept outsiders (wonder why :wink: ), but I have yet to meet a Jew that wished to convert anyone to their own beliefs.

Where did you grow up? I'm Christian, and many other Christians where I grew up would just regard me as a heretic or unbeliever (I'm not a Creationist or a homophobe).


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09 Oct 2009, 10:06 pm

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There is nothing in Hungary outside Budapest worth taking over. The main complement I can pay to Hungary is that it is not Albania.


Hey! Hungary used to have Transylvania and a bunch of other places, it's not our fault our allies turned on us and gave us an ultimatum to cut the country up!

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Recipe for Hungarian Omellettes: First steal two fresh eggs.....


I don't see a big deal with stealing 2 eggs? you merely are getting a personal discount! (five finger discount that is!)
so what? if Gypsies ran the shop I don't see the big deal......



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09 Oct 2009, 10:09 pm

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I bet no one has even cared that you're Jewish in the past 20 years


I can’t speak for Ruveyn’s experiences, but Norwegian Jews sure are being targeted. I have aqcuaintances who are receiving threats in the mail from our beloved new countrymen. Quite a few of them have received such letters, or been threatened in person simply because they’re Jewish. A little boy, he was 8 or 9, was stopped by a gang of Palestinian teens just by his house. He was asked if his mother was Israeli. He confirmed that. Then he was hit and told that if they ever saw him again they’d kill him. His parents pressed charges but the cops couldn’t do anthing. All they said was that the boy mustn’t go out alone as they can’t ensure his safety. A Jewish woman was stopped on the street by a group of men and beaten. She didn’t dare press charges. Most of them don’t. I know that many of these decent people live in constant fear when it’s at its worst.

Muslims seem to think that persecuting Jews here is a good way to solve the Middle East conflict. I remember the outcry of the Muslims when a mosque received a threat after 11 Sept. “They had nothing to do with that!” They should sweep before their own door.


What an interesting way to spin something.

You take my comment, cite a couple cases as if it's the norm, and then even work in a jab against the Muslims. You don't happen to be on the IDF payroll, eh? Maybe ADL?


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09 Oct 2009, 11:04 pm

On the Israeli war, I believe the Israelis are being power hungry, im not going to argue about the rights and wrongs of what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians and vice versa, it's war, and didn't the Israelis START that war, and don't give me that sh*t that the Palestinians where being anti-semitic, Jews have used that sh*t to start fights for centuries! in war no-one is the hero IMO,it's mass homicide and civilians almost if not always get attacked and killed over bs, and what is this war supported by Religion? If so F*ck religion to it's bs core, juice and it's whole bs thinking



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10 Oct 2009, 2:49 am

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You take my comment, cite a couple cases as if it's the norm


In my experience it is close to their norm. Their behaviour towards Jews is one problem.

Add to that the fact that Muslims make up about 2 % of our population yet they filled 50-60 % of our prisons, a survey showed some years ago.
Add to that the fact that the serial rapists here the last 5 years have all been Muslims. Add to that the fact that a lot of the males are really disgusting towards females. Comments, looks, touches. I know, several of them have harrassed me and I sure didn't encourage them. Thankfully my dog was there most of the times, and since they are hysterical about dogs, they left. Not that I expect you to understand how that effects women/girls, I don't think any male can fathom what sexual assaults do to you.

Add the violent gangs who fight each other, nearly all of whom are immigrants, mostly Pakistani, some Somali.
Add to that the fact that gays are being attacked in some parts of the city because Muslim gangs consider those places Muslim property and say they won't allow such things there.
Add the fact that a lot of them have less respect for Norwegian people than they have for their own people, which made some bars hire immigrants as doormen so they could deal with troublesome immigrants, and that actually reduced the violence. Aaarrgh, they came here , for crying out loud!

And BTW you don't have to tell me that not all of them are like that; I know that. I've known some nice Muslim girls, even a couple of guys. They are simply not the problem!



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10 Oct 2009, 10:10 am

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Add to that the fact that Muslims make up about 2 % of our population yet they filled 50-60 % of our prisons, a survey showed some years ago.
Add to that the fact that the serial rapists here the last 5 years have all been Muslims. Add to that the fact that a lot of the males are really disgusting towards females. Comments, looks, touches. I know, several of them have harrassed me and I sure didn't encourage them. Thankfully my dog was there most of the times, and since they are hysterical about dogs, they left. Not that I expect you to understand how that effects women/girls, I don't think any male can fathom what sexual assaults do to you.



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