Disarm Israel?

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As soon as the neighbors stop sending in suicide bombers.

ruveyn

There hasn't been suicide bombings recently

"Remember what happened the day the state of Israel was declared?"

Aye, i reckon that they unilaterally declared the state when the British plan was to have two states. <.<

In that sense, it's sort of like assuming control over a portion of the populace (the Palestinians) when you shouldn't be. And well, i doubt people from the neighbouring countries wanted their peers over in that territory to be subjected to Israel's authority when they never asked for it.

Israel disarmed would last about as long as the higher-numbered transuranic elements...
Muhammed gave the Jews a chance to 'get right with Allah' during his lifetime. Originally, Muslims prayed towards' 'Al Kuds' (Jerusalem). When they refused, they started praying towards Mecca.

So anti-Zionism (anti-semitism of a sort, since the Arabs are technically Semites as well...oops...
goes back to day one. There are portions of the suras that acknowledge Jews and Christians as 'people of the book', but there's still bad blood.

So disarming isn't an option now, or until there can be a common frame of reference between the 2 sides.

Actually, the Crusades were a 4-sided war; Byzantines and Catholics on one side, Shi'ite and Sunni on the other. Everybody suspected everybody else. Heck, the Crusaders even took Constantiople in 1204 (I think). Big mess all around.

Right. Now it is mostly rockets from Gaza.

ruveyn

“If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.”
— Benjamin Netanyahu

Nope, the rockets stopped ever since a ceasefire was declared after operation cast lead in the dec 2008-jan 2009 war.

Probably true, but would israel continue to expand settlements in the occupied west bank?

It seems that the current president (or whatever political role mister Netanyahu holds) doesn't know that there is a difference between Israelis and Jews. <.< Parts of the jewish diaspora do not recognize Israel. Or... He's saying this on purpose so he can call others that disagree with him anti-semites, etc.

The incessant use of the accusation of antisemitism by Israeli officials of anyone disagreeing with the suppressive policies of Israel is a propaganda weapon forged from the guilt the world feels for the horror the Nazis carried through against the Jews. That this guilt is genuine and deserved makes this a very useful weapon but it dishonors the Holocaust victims to use it in this manner to justify Israeli vengeance on many innocent victims.

In 1920, the territory now run by Israel had the following demographics - 95% Arab, 5% Jewish.
In 1947, the territory to go to Israel was almost 50-50 down the middle... the principle was "where there are Jews it goes to the Jewish state" - with the exception really of Jerusalem that was to be internationalised.

The British rulers of Palestine had the obligation under the League of Nations covenant to set up self-rule for the former Ottoman territories including elections. The British refused to do this, setting up direct rule and allowing the establishment of a parallel Jewish government. This was a violation of the Covenant but was done because of a deal made with Lord Rothschild in 1917 and in return they expected assistance in World War I...

In 1947, the "land-clearing operations" began led by the army and the state within a state that the British had helped nurture. This was to firstly improve the demographics of the new Israel and to secondly carve a route to Jerusalem that would in turn be cleared of people, and this was a smashing success of ethnic cleansing... The Palestinian leadership suffered great damage during the revolt of the late 1930s against the British and were in no position to defend their communities.

The Jewish state within a state claimed control of Palestine when it declared the independence of Israel on the expiry of the mandate in May 1948. By then, 350,000 Palestinians had already been expelled from their homes, and a village west of Jerusalem was massacred a month earlier.

This is when the Arab states declared war. This was a building humanitarian crisis caused by a power determined to displace hundreds of thousands of people. The Arabs had an obligation to help out the Palestinians. There was of course one serious problem. These places had only recently won independence from the British and most were under British influence. The only army of any quality was that of Transjordan. The Transjordanian emir coveted Jerusalem and much of Palestine and held talks with the Zionists to carve up Palestine between them. A deal was struck for the Transjordanian "Arab Legion" to only operate in land to go to the Arab state under the partition plan. This effectively sabotaged any effort to defeat the Zionists and reverse the ethnic cleansing.

After the war, the Transjordanian emir proclaimed himself to be king of Jordan, with new western territories. In 1951, he was in Jerusalem when a Palestinian assassinated him.

Between 1948 and 1994, there were no suicide bombers. Why didn't they act during that time? Oh, I remember... back in 1950s, the Palestinians were seen as a bunch of docile losers incapable to doing anything at all... just a bunch of saps, roadkill on the road to Armageddon. Funny how they were metamorphosised through the propaganda into a hive of possessed zombies and killers...

And by the way, during the height of suicide bombings, support for peace in Israel was at its highest level. With years of calm now, they now speak of blowing up the third holiest site in Islam and building the Third Slaughterhouse.

I think, if I remember right, it was the Kach party who planned to blow up the Dome of the Rock/Temple mount (honestly, are they the same thing or different?) but Shin Bet foiled the plot and i think the Kach is a banned party in Israel. Israel made a smart move because blowing up that site would have caused a major escalation in the arab-israeli conflict.

So going back to your comment, I don't think the Israeli government would want to blow up the site even if they had little respect for muslims.

Israel was declared through war and usurpation of Palestinian land. Don't ignore that.
And Jews aren't just Semites, in fact only like 2% are Semite or Semite related. Don't repeat that ADL propaganda BS. Jews aren't even a race or ethnic group.




Israel keeps expanding, building settlements.
They were always the minority there until they started expelling people, reproducing like rabbits and bringing Jewish immigrants from all over the globe.

If you count Israel + occupied territories, Jewish people are a minority, i think they were 49% last time i checked. Inside the state of Israel, Jews are like 75% of the population.

Perhaps I should clarify - they've been polling Israelis on their desire for peace and also on their support for extremism such as blowing up the Haram al-Sharif. When there were suicide bombings, support for peace was at its highest level - now it's at it's lowest level, and support for blowing up the Haram al-Sharif is at its highest level. So it shows that suicide bombings seem to moderate the Israelis and the lack of such bombings is radicalising them!