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25 Dec 2009, 3:50 am

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moderation, what is that lao zao saying? eveything is permissible in moderation? if you know that is the trick

Like moderate murder and moderate rape and moderate pedophilia, perhaps?

maybe, you've masterd it. and overcome murder, rape and pedophilla? sounds like you're one balanced fellow. im shure you've never thought of of killing your neighbour, raping someone or having what is the legal age where you live in? finland? 16? here you'd get put in jail for even thinking out loud for f*****g a 16 year old. so i guess you get the medal. what that is, is who knows but only you

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25 Dec 2009, 4:00 am

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moderation, what is that lao zao saying? eveything is permissible in moderation? if you know that is the trick

Like moderate murder and moderate rape and moderate pedophilia, perhaps?

maybe, you've masterd it. and overcome murder, rape and pedophilla? sounds like you're one balanced fellow. im shure you've never thought of of killing your neighbour, raping someone or having what is the legal age where you live in? finland? 16? here you'd get put in jail for even thining out loud for f***ing a 16 year old. so i guess you get the medal. what that is, is who knows but only you

I have no idea what the kind of a guy you might be but at the age of almost 84 I can seriously and truthfully say I never had any intent to murder, rape or violate a child. If that makes me outstandingly different from the majority of the human race then I am immensely disappointed.

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25 Dec 2009, 4:04 am

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moderation, what is that lao zao saying? eveything is permissible in moderation? if you know that is the trick

Like moderate murder and moderate rape and moderate pedophilia, perhaps?

maybe, you've masterd it. and overcome murder, rape and pedophilla? sounds like you're one balanced fellow. im shure you've never thought of of killing your neighbour, raping someone or having what is the legal age where you live in? finland? 16? here you'd get put in jail for even thining out loud for f***ing a 16 year old. so i guess you get the medal. what that is, is who knows but only you

you make me sound so dirty and i have never thought about f*****g a child. i have thought about f*****g a 16 year old. all of wich should be legal in this country but the legal age of consent is 18. wich is rediculous anyways. i guess you misunderstood my understanding about moderation it was more of a mental thing and not an actual, action

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25 Dec 2009, 4:38 am

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Love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.

I appreciate your passion here! I'm not into half-hearted attempts at anything either! lol

I see no Lord and I do not chase mirages.

Yeah but that's no attempt at all! lol

Attempt at what? Don't let yourself be suckered by foolish nonsense.

As for the attempt: Do you think faith is easy, that it comes naturally to some people? Whether the cause of the faith comes about from the conditioning enforced upon one by those around them, or by one's individual sincere wish to seek a higher truth - either way effort is involved, even if it's just merely enduring and abiding by the conditions enforced upon one by others.

As for the nonsense: How can you say with so much certainty that something we don't know for sure is necessarily nonsense? And if even on a relative level - some people derive great benefit from these beliefs. Are you trying to tell me to discard the only thing that I find worth living for? If my beliefs weren't so firm I'd probably want to kill myself (please excuse the dramatics).

By the way did I interpret your poem right or not?

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25 Dec 2009, 5:30 am

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It can be a favorite quote.
It can change too.

Work, buy, consume, die.

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25 Dec 2009, 5:31 am

Ask a stupid question...

EDIT: and get a response like Sand's above the post which is above this!

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25 Dec 2009, 10:45 am

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moderation, what is that lao zao saying? eveything is permissible in moderation? if you know that, that is the trick

No, that's not what it's saying at all (although living a balanced life is an important concept in Taoism). Again, the Tao is not the Way, the Path, or any other thing like that. I could call it Babbakanush, and it would do the same thing as calling it Tao. Tao is the name, used for convenience, to draw the mind in the direction of what the speaker or writer wishes to draw the mind to, and that is the Name that cannot be named, the Tao that cannot be called Tao. Calling it by name, describing it, using phrases to refer to it (as I just did) is a betrayal of its nature. It eludes description and words are inadequate for it. That quote is not a moral guide, but rather, as my mother referred to it, "religious mumbo-jumbo." Or something like that.

As I said, I was using that quote mostly to explain that the meaning of life cannot truly be summed up in words.

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25 Dec 2009, 11:09 am

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moderation, what is that lao zao saying? eveything is permissible in moderation? if you know that, that is the trick

Since the meaning of life cannot be summed up in words and words are the only way this discussion progresses then this thread is totally useless.

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25 Dec 2009, 11:14 am

I'm curious why you appear to be so bitter and/or angry Sand? Note I said "appear".

The way you present yourself is as someone that's not only an atheist or "non-believer" but even goes so far as to insult others' beliefs. Why is that?

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25 Dec 2009, 11:20 am

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Was this a result of my comment on the expression of the meaning of life in words as not possible? How was that bitter? It was merely logical. If the statement is to be taken seriously I merely pointed out the logical conclusion. You have a strange sense of what is bitter.

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25 Dec 2009, 11:21 am

In the very long run, all is futile.

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25 Dec 2009, 11:22 am

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In the very long run, all is futile.

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Is this a restatement of the second law?

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25 Dec 2009, 11:34 am

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No, I would say that the combination of all of the following statements appear to express a negative outlook on things in general:

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Some people enjoy destroying others

While true, it's also true that "some people enjoy helping others", but you left this fact out and kept just the inverse. "Some" people do all sorts of things, positive AND negative, yet you focus on the negative.

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I see no Lord and I do not chase mirages.

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Attempt at what? Don't let yourself be suckered by foolish nonsense.

Comparing someone's beliefs to "chasing mirages" and "foolish nonsense" is quite negative. I am an agnostic, I see no proof that there is or is not a God or gods, but I don't discount the possibility because I see no evidence that there is not either. But just because I don't believe in a God or gods doesn't mean that I work actively to insult those beliefs.

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Like moderate murder and moderate rape and moderate pedophilia, perhaps?

It is obvious that there are certain things which are not "permissible in moderation". I'm sure the poster you were responding to knew that. He was making a generalization to prove the opposite, that EXCESS in almost anything is bad.

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this thread is totally useless.

And this is pretty much the capper. Why participate in a thread that you think is useless, other than just to ridicule and insult beliefs other than your own?

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